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On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.
People would have stacked their muta's sooner or later as well...
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Polt is so impressive oO
Hellions really are wonderful units.
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On June 13 2011 20:11 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:09 Witten wrote:On June 13 2011 20:02 eggs wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 Happy Frog wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? .... Do you watch the games or just read the results well i see Polt vs TOP for the final spot i think my point stands Wow trolling hard. If you've watched any of Polt's games (other than the MAKA series lol) he's looked phenomenal. And TOP beat Nestea completely legitimately. Are you mad that the Heat lost the NBA finals too because they are better on paper? Basketball is a 5 man team game. Heat had 2 good players. Dallas had 3.
uhhh,LeBron Wade and Bosh....thats 3.
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On June 13 2011 20:11 Moonwrath wrote:
Sick play by Polt to keep that depot down
Yeah at first I thought it was bad multitasking with the hellion just A-moved resulting in it hitting the closest thing
then I realized :O
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On June 13 2011 20:12 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:11 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:09 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:08 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:06 youngminii wrote:Game 1 StartPolt V TOPCurrent score: 0-0 Map: Bel'Shir Beach  Polt at 10 o'clock TOP at 4 o'clock 2:00Both players going for a Rax/gas opening. 3:30A Factory dropped for both players at the exact same time. 4:30A CC just started for Polt, both players making Hellions, a Reactor on Polt's Factory. 6:30Starport started for both players. TOP attacking Polt with his Marines and Hellions and with some nice control kills off all of Polt's army, TOP runs away with a single Marine and a Hellion left. TOP making a CC himself while Polt is making a Banshee. 8:00Polt getting his expansion up and running while TOP trying to fend off Hellion harass and Banshee harass. Polt's Banshee has 12 kills and TOP has no Marines left, only 2 Tanks and 22 SCVs.
9:30
A Viking finally comes out for TOP and kills off the Banshee (there was no cloak) but now the SCV counts are 32 for Polt to 20 for TOP. TOP gets his expansion up and running.
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On June 13 2011 20:10 Pipeline wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:05 Adreme wrote:On June 13 2011 20:02 eggs wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 Happy Frog wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? .... Do you watch the games or just read the results well i see Polt vs TOP for the final spot i think my point stands It really doesnt when one side of the bracket is easier than the other side of the backet. Its a problem with the super tournament format. Its GomTVs fault for having a billion terrans and so skewed brackets. Winning the super tournament is in my opinion is NOT equal to winning Code S. It should not be possible to go threw a GSL tournament of only TvTs. Not to bash MMA, but if he wins the entire thing it wont feel like a real winner. In my opinion you need to win in all match ups to be crowned as champion. But then again, its not MMAs fault, it is 100% on GomTV
MMA's only bad matchup is TvP, his TvZ is godly and his TvT is eastily top 5 (might even be top 3). MMA would deserve it if he won, he is a godly player either way.
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On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.
July didn't invent it, Shark did. July similar brought it's attention to the masses.
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Go Polt so MKP is comforted :p MY LIFE FOR MKP*zealot voice
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On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.
Shark invented mutastacking with ov trick
July only used it and got success with it
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On June 13 2011 20:08 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Ghostfoot wrote:
MMA vs TOP
Boxer may come into MMA's booth if MMA begins losing...
but TOP on the other hand has the presence of NaDa's body Wait? Boxer was playing for MMA? wtf isn't that cheating....
most epic troll ever? Boxer came into the booth and gave MMA a pep talk...
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woah how did lebron james make it into a korean starcraft LR thread
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On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.
That doesn't make sense to me. How can you say that with certainty, or that someone after July wouldn't have done it?
Though having said that, I could've sworn MVP was either the first player on GSL to marine split, or he did it concurrently to MKP.
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On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.
Umm...Nope.
July popularized it. His teammate Shark invented Mutastacking.
MKP was responsible for popularizing it. MVP used it first, but he lost. MKP's series against Zenio was the first time that Marine micro was truly demonstrated in astonishing effectiveness.
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On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:12 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:11 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:09 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:08 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 20:06 youngminii wrote:Game 1 StartPolt V TOPCurrent score: 0-0 Map: Bel'Shir Beach Polt at 10 o'clock TOP at 4 o'clock 2:00Both players going for a Rax/gas opening. 3:30A Factory dropped for both players at the exact same time. 4:30A CC just started for Polt, both players making Hellions, a Reactor on Polt's Factory. 6:30Starport started for both players. TOP attacking Polt with his Marines and Hellions and with some nice control kills off all of Polt's army, TOP runs away with a single Marine and a Hellion left. TOP making a CC himself while Polt is making a Banshee. 8:00Polt getting his expansion up and running while TOP trying to fend off Hellion harass and Banshee harass. Polt's Banshee has 12 kills and TOP has no Marines left, only 2 Tanks and 22 SCVs. 9:30A Viking finally comes out for TOP and kills off the Banshee (there was no cloak) but now the SCV counts are 32 for Polt to 20 for TOP. TOP gets his expansion up and running.
10:30
TOP almost 30 supply behind Polt. Polt sends his army across the map about to attack TOP.
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On June 13 2011 20:13 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner. July didn't invent it, Shark did. July similar brought it's attention to the masses.
you mean discovered right?
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On June 13 2011 20:12 qazadex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner. People would have stacked their muta's sooner or later as well...
Most people think mkp started marine splitting since the kyrix game. Actually the first game I saw bio splits were by mvp in his season 2 game vs zenio. Mkp may have popularized it but the first person I saw do it was mvp.
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On June 13 2011 20:12 qazadex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner. People would have stacked their muta's sooner or later as well...
July didn't invent mutastacking, he just popularized it.
(I think Shark invented it, I'm not sure)
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grats to MMA he played really well, and thats coming from a hardcore MKP fan. matches were so close, i think game 3 in partcular could easily have gone the other way. MMA anticipated MKPs maneuvering and dealt with it perfectly. I really hope the future of TvT is not this hellion siege tank stuff, its really not fun to watch and on small maps like Xel Naga i dont see anything beating it. I think it comes down to mma slightly more solid and mkp more stylistic and favors bio centric with tank support. Perfect tank control with high tank counts should win that along with the good turtling mma did ( game 5). I prefer MKP to watch, but MMA is a great player and will probably /hopefully will win the whole thing now.
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On June 13 2011 20:11 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS? Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea. Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about. MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds. I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo. He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years. I seem to remember MVP showing the marine split first vs Zenio on Jungle Basin. MKP vs Kyrix. Season 2. Go watch. the Shakuras Plateau game was a thing of beauty
MKP vs Kyrix was Ro8 whilst MVP vs Zenio was Ro32. Not saying MVP actually invented it but he showed it first.
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