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On June 06 2011 02:05 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:01 Chicane wrote:On June 06 2011 01:58 blackwolf wrote:
Lol winning just by a-moving and streaming units? Nani played almost perfectly and just got stomped. How the fuck is it possible to beat zerg in pvz? Can we please for the love of god get the QQ out of these threads... zergs were also saying "how the hell do you stop x" or "omfg this person played perfectly and still lost" and now you're saying it on the flip side. Did you ever think that it is very possible to beat but Nani just got out played? That seems pretty reasonable based off of the experience of the meta game evolving, and one race feeling stronger for some time. Btw Nani didn't play perfectly, where did he pressure Losira when Losira was macroing? I would ignore people who make comments like this. They're all either trolls or idiots. Anyone who knows anything about the game understands that you can get significantly behind early game without actually attacking or being attacked. People who don't are stuck in bronze wondering why their 1 base maxed timing push doesn't work.
I agree that they are either idiots or trolling, but I would really like to not have to see this in every fucking tournament thread, when I am just trying to enjoy the event and talk about the games here.
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Sjow takes game 1 over Moon...first Korean at risk of elimination.
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On June 06 2011 02:03 Logo2010 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base If thats all you saw in that game, then you dont know much about sc2 LoL agreed, if you watch the match and see speedling roach and think you can do the same why aren't you grandmaster top 10? He clearly has no concept of agression or timings or unit selection or macro or map control or mind games or anything really.
and sure anyone can go drone into ling roach with a bit of practice, but its knowing when to, timing your attack off his robo/collosus timing, scouting if he is going for a 3rd, a stargate, or gate pressure, and on top of that, having solid beastly mechanics. ZvP really is not that simple/easy, theres a reason it was the last zerg match up to develop a lot.
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On June 06 2011 02:04 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:03 Titorelli wrote:
What's up with all that Gretorp hate? Has he done anything bad or what? Most people just think that there are players that deserve his spot in the pool play way, way, way more. I must say that I'm one of them, if you see for example DeMusliM deserves to get that spot more, or someone like Axslav, MajOr etc.
He earned that spot by playing well in previous tournaments. He played like shit here because he's been casting and now will probably lose the spot. I don't see the issue. Gretorp is actually an extremely good terran, he's just been casting a lot and playing HoN and not practicing as much.
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On June 06 2011 02:05 Alkior wrote:
Wait so nani is not knocked out?
he's knocked into losers bracket now
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On June 06 2011 02:04 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:00 youngminii wrote:On June 06 2011 01:59 Pandain wrote:On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base A move? He was microing all that time. He did dual attacks, kept on microing everything during that time. He just did a crazy strategy that involved 3 base drone pumping into just a bunch of roach lings. I mean, he had 4 hatcheries BEFORE he had his lair. How crazy is that! During the entire time he was attacking he kept macroing, and reinforcements just kept on swarming in. His entire strategy was beautiful. It really wasn't. I'm not gonna detract from Losira here because he DID completely outplay Naniwa, but his play was anything but beautiful. Idra against MC was beautiful. This was standard. Idra's play wasn't that beautiful. The match was amazing because it was back and forth, but it was only back and forth because of small mistakes each player made and the players involved. He didn't do anything crazy, he didn't do anything spectacular. And how do you not call that amazing? I mean did you see that? He upgrades his lings, drone pumped SO much and got so far ahead in economy, and then he just attacked like the monster he is. Oh my god is he good. And then to put icing on the cake he got a spire, getting ready for easy a spectacular muta switch or some corrupters to deal with the collusus.
umm
pandain you're scaring me
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I'd really want to know if deep inside idra's heart he still thinks, that Zerg is sooo weak and protoss is just an no skill imbalanced a move race
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On June 06 2011 02:05 aruken wrote:
stream having a lot of hiccups all the time here:s where can i report this? does mlg already know about this? stream worked fine friday/saturday...
I get hiccups all the time when I try out high quality, which is really surprising because the high quality still looks like crap and I can stream 720p NASL just fine...?
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Seems like every PvZ looks the same nowadays. Everything seems equal at around 100 supply mark, but then Zerg just explodes and gains like 70 supply lead. I dunno what to think about this, seen many games unfolding like that (idra vs mc, losira vs nani etc.). Seems like even perfect forcefields can't save toss players.
Huggerz thats a good point, i was thinking watching a lot of those highest lvl pvz in the last days to.
Top P seems 2 change something big in there play to adjust to this huge meta game change z is going through having in my opinion even started before the last patch when Top Zergs like Losiria were starting having more solid play.
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On June 06 2011 02:05 Brad wrote:
The breaks are killer. -.-
Get up and move around some. Get something to drink.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:04 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:00 youngminii wrote:On June 06 2011 01:59 Pandain wrote:On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base A move? He was microing all that time. He did dual attacks, kept on microing everything during that time. He just did a crazy strategy that involved 3 base drone pumping into just a bunch of roach lings. I mean, he had 4 hatcheries BEFORE he had his lair. How crazy is that! During the entire time he was attacking he kept macroing, and reinforcements just kept on swarming in. His entire strategy was beautiful. It really wasn't. I'm not gonna detract from Losira here because he DID completely outplay Naniwa, but his play was anything but beautiful. Idra against MC was beautiful. This was standard. Idra's play wasn't that beautiful. The match was amazing because it was back and forth, but it was only back and forth because of small mistakes each player made and the players involved. He didn't do anything crazy, he didn't do anything spectacular. And how do you not call that amazing? I mean did you see that? He upgrades his lings, drone pumped SO much and got so far ahead in economy, and then he just attacked like the monster he is. Oh my god is he good. And then to put icing on the cake he got a spire, getting ready for easy a spectacular muta switch or some corrupters to deal with the collusus.
Yeah I don't get whats so beautiful about Zerg play at the moment. It's just get quick 3 base, spam drones as much as humanly possible. Rally units into protoss and win. This is all enabled by the Protoss who just sits there, expands late, and doesn't apply pressure. No shit Zergs are raping Protoss, they're getting ridiculous economic advantages every game.
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Oh god I'm loving this.
Now it is Zerg that are mass defending their race in Live report threads, this is SOO much more fun being on the other side of the fence for a change, even more fun when you aren't even participating in the rage and watching it as a bystander
I wonder the future will hold....
"Zerglings bad for the game?", "Roaches poorly designed?", "Zerg is boring",
I can't wait 
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On June 06 2011 02:05 Alkior wrote:
Wait so nani is not knocked out?
Knocked down to the loser's bracket...
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I don't think Protoss can FE forge vs a good Zerg anymore.
It seems that a good zerg takes a fast 3rd and techs up to roach burrow to stop any timing attack.
Then by the time an observer is out for the Protoss Zerg already has a 3rd fully saturated with a macro hatch somewhere. They usually max out with roaches and lings around 13-14 mins and just roll the Protoss.
Min, Losira and Nestea have all been doing this and just destroying Protoss.
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On June 06 2011 02:05 Zzoram wrote:
When is the next game? I thought it was supposed to be Idra vs MMA now.
Way later, no? They need to do loser's brackets first.
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I love how a lot of people are happy another zerg is advancing (Ret)...It's going to be so exciting when the top 8 will consist of 6-7 zergs....smh. I hate it when the final stages of a tournament are dominated by a specific race.
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so Idra vs MMA next
would the one after that be MC vs ThorZaIN?
OMG, these matches are so great
thanks you MLG !
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You know if MMA gets past IdrA, MC is the only one with a chance of stopping him? Unless Losira greatly improved his ZvT I don't think he'll stand much of a chance.
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Anyone have any idea when the next game is going to start? :o
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United States23455 Posts
I hope they hold off the next round of lower bracket stuff till after Idra/MMA.
MC/Thorzain should be on main stage.
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