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Titorelli
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Neo.NEt
United States785 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:05 Flowjo wrote: It's because their opponen'ts are so much harder, so they can't afford to do what they want freely Personally I think it's because the Foreigner players are stupid enough to try to play straight up macro games with them. I mean anypro just does 2 base timing pushes every game whereas Naniwa tries to take a third and/or a fourth base.. honorable but obviously a death wish. | ||
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Mallard
United States129 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:05 Oscatron wrote: mc thorzain again? fcking sickkkk mc vs july mma vs idra Extended series kind of cuts down the excitement of it though. | ||
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Primal666
Slovenia418 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:02 Whalecore wrote: Yeah... did you even watch game 1? Naniwa killde a ton of drones, overlords and even 3 queens with stargate build. Np though since losira just countered it by droning hard on 3 bases. so with 3 phoenixes(450 minerals 300 gas) and void ray(250 minerals 150 gas) he killed like 5 ovies and 3 queens, which is only like 1000 minerals, it didn't pay off at all. | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:59 adeptz wrote: This. Not to mention getting to that stage of being able to do that super quickly with the damn z macro mechanics... :\ The day they learn that the twilight council unlocks other options than blink we may be in trouble. Game 1 Naniwa needed to be able to reinforce with chargelots (not slowlots) and/or have templar for storm. Game 2 he needed to either apply pressure or go macro crazy himself. Just sitting back making a few units but not using them is never a valid option for any race. The fact is the top level zergs can (unlike a lot of the diamond masters players) deal with colossi very well and some protoss even at the highest level are still always going for a blind colossus build. There were no hydras to counter, immortals and zealots deal with roaches and lings respectively. Why does the toss invest so heavily in colossi ? Loisira even had a spire going down, no hydras in sight at all. Another thing only a few toss are taking advantage of is the chronoboost on upgrades to get a hard advantage there. This is especially true when using zealots and when facing lings because of the very high return zealots get from attack upgrades and the reduction of ling attack by armor. | ||
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desty
Canada142 Posts
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thefreed
United States222 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:01 RageBot wrote: Teamhouses own white pepole. It's not teamhouses anymore because foreigners have teamhouses and teams too. It's just the level of competition they're facing repeatedly to improve themselves as a player. | ||
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Alkior
543 Posts
He still has a chance to win finals right? | ||
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mistax
United States415 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
He will face whoever comes out of Slush/Fenix vs Haypro/Ret. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:05 Chicane wrote: Lmfao "we earned." Wtf are you talking about. You're just some guy who plays casually and who often complained about zerg on this site. The people who earned it are the pros who adapted their play to suit their race. I am glad zergs are doing well now... it's just unfortunate that the bullshit about balance never stops though. hahahahahahhahh amen | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:05 Neo.NEt wrote: Hurray for Ret! Did MC already 2-0 Thorzain or is that just from their previous series and it's going to be extended? No way Thorzain can take 4 out of 5 from MC.... Ya it's just not possible. MC will easily take the series unfortunately. | ||
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crabz
227 Posts
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:05 Roggay wrote: Not really, 4gate wasn't really used anymore at all, it was already a free win for zerg. Nothing else really changed. Nope, the threat of a 4-gate is very important. | ||
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krneki
Norway237 Posts
mc-thorzain ret-haypro mma-idra and we wont see none of those, cuz mlg cant arrange 2 different casting teams to go get something to eat at different time??? this sucks | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:06 i4mt3hwin wrote: He earned that spot by playing well in previous tournaments. He played like shit here because he's been casting and now will probably lose the spot. I don't see the issue. Gretorp is actually an extremely good terran, he's just been casting a lot and playing HoN and not practicing as much. If Demuslim deserved the spot, he would've gotten into the Championship Loser's bracket at a bare minimum. Terrible example. | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:04 Heavenly wrote: Also people who say zergs are macro monsters...mechanics in this game are NOT hard for a top tier player. IdrA doesn't even practice his mechanics because literally all you do is build overlords and drone up as much as you can while scouting for pressure. Ret also said that macro is easy (basically, people would ask him how he can make so many drones and he just said it's easy to make a ton of units). The mechanics of SC2 are so ridiculously simplified with shift-queue, inject larva, worker rallies that being a zerg "MACRO BEAST literally means nothing. Once you get your inject larva timings down and don't get supply blocked macro is not hard. This game is almost entirely about positioning and decision making, macro almost means nothing. Such a facepalm moment when people act like someone is a macro god. By macro monster they been how Losira stayed on the bleeding edge of economy building. He always had just enough to stay alive up until he had the economy he wanted and then he crushed through Naniwa. | ||
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:58 Olinim wrote: It's outextending yourself getting a third when the zerg is getting a 5h base? when you do wait to get a third might i ask? Protoss can never outexpand a good zerg. Protoss must pressure the zerg to control zerg's potential army size. If you let the zerg take the map you can't win no matter what your unit compositition is. | ||
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mpf189
332 Posts
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
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