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On June 03 2011 11:40 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 11:39 Monoamine wrote: Wow, Gretorp and Xeris are really starting to annoy me with this archon QQ. They haven't complained at any point...they've said archons are really good a couple of times. That's...a positive remark?
Now they are talking about Archon nerfs.....
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This is definitely my least favorite casting team so far, half the time they aren't even talking about the game being played, just random facts about units.
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Commentary is entertaining. I can't believe you people would rather argue balance than watch these fun games...
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United States7483 Posts
No it can't xeris, no it can't -_-.
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Cruncher does a 1 to 2 base attack and wins; ALL CRUNCHER DOES IS ALL IN. Cruncher plays long macro game with constant harass; WOW ALL THIS GUY DOES IS TURTLE. I gotta say Cruncher probably has more haters then anyone else, although i assume its only the Idra mega fans who follow his every word.
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Apparently any time a protoss has any units it is a deathball.
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Gretorp's jokes are awkward. Yet again. He is a bit of Borat.
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they are just pushed by other units but they cant move
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United States97274 Posts
Why are the complaining about archons...
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They need to STFU about nerfing Archons.
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Xeris whining like a baby about Archons is seriously getting on my nerves.
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On June 03 2011 11:41 Xxavi wrote: Archon isn't OP. When Protoss has 3-4 more bases, he is supposed to win easily. If it were equal bases, Cruncher would be in trouble with wasting so many templars and archons. Archons are good, but not OP.
Agree archons were crap they needed the buff...
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Really, they aren't seriously talking about Imbalance. -.-'
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Canada13379 Posts
wait seriously they are saying that Archons are imbalanced? Wat? Have they ever actually used an archon its not THAT good lets be honest protoss players. :/
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People hate Cruncher because his wins involve his opponents making mistakes and not responding appropriately to his play while all his losses make him look totally outclassed. He never seems to 'outclass' his opponent; says nothing bad about the guy, just seems to be the result of his style.
As an example look at that game: QXC with a strange build and poor macro, failing to scan DT's in fights, etc. If QXC's floating minerals had been army that game it could have been very different, so judging how good Cruncher is from it is pretty difficult (though he played a solid game that punished mistakes harshly).
This is the exact same style that Kiwikaki has done in the past, when you are ahead on upgrades with Templar, DT's in your army is NOT a liability as your Zealots are constantly buffering and it forces scans from Terrans every fight. When they do get scanned you morph into Archons.
What Cruncher did this game didn't rely on any ounce of luck, he completely outplayed QXC. He was on 9 Bases dwarfing QXC's economy, better upgrades, better unit compositions. It is like the Ultralisk, when you are far ahead you just use DT's to finish off the game faster
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Yes Gretorp.
Get marines against HT tech and archons.
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On June 03 2011 11:40 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 11:39 Monoamine wrote: Wow, Gretorp and Xeris are really starting to annoy me with this archon QQ. They haven't complained at any point...they've said archons are really good a couple of times. That's...a positive remark?
still thinking that after what the guy with gretorp just said?
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i think that makes the set now that ala day9 "the worst unit in the game" (yea maybe was a liiiiiiiiiiitle understated) is now OP there is now officially no protoss unit that isnt OP
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I agree with everyone above me, Archon is in no way imbalanced, they should focus on the game instead of bickering about how to "counter" the archon.
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