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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#321
On June 03 2011 11:38 Grimwold wrote:
Archon is way OP


Not even close.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#322
On June 03 2011 11:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thanks for buffing the archon blizzard...


No need to nerf marauders anymore :D
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#323
Protoss is the new Zerg! Seriously, Protoss looks pretty fun on that map.
hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#324
On June 03 2011 11:38 Grimwold wrote:
Archon is way OP


He was so ahead he could've rallied probes at qxc and still win.
Monoamine
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#325
Wow, Gretorp and Xeris are really starting to annoy me with this archon QQ.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#326
On June 03 2011 11:38 Grimwold wrote:
Archon is way OP

Sigh, can't we just recognize when someone completely outplays their opponent instead of blaming the game itself?
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
June 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#327
On June 03 2011 11:36 WniO wrote:
this map is the new python. so..... boring.


xel'naga cavern is the new python. Tal'darim doesnt even feel that old yet.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 02:41:08
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#328
People hate Cruncher because his wins involve his opponents making mistakes and not responding appropriately to his play while all his losses make him look totally outclassed. He never seems to 'outplay' his opponent in an even game; says nothing bad about the guy, just seems to be the result of his style and the way players deal with it.

As an example look at that game: QXC with a strange build and poor macro, failing to scan DT's in fights, etc. If QXC's floating minerals had been army that game it could have been very different, so judging how good Cruncher is from it is pretty difficult (though he played a solid game that punished mistakes harshly).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 02:43:18
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#329
On June 03 2011 11:38 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 11:37 Dommk wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:34 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:32 Dommk wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:28 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:24 Sight- wrote:
I don't get why people hate cruncher? he seems not that awful?

Not quite idras level but...

Edit: In the same league for sure.


Just my opinion, but it's mostly that he is really boring to watch. I'm even yawning right now

I guess the best way to describe it would be he either all ins off 2 base or turtles like crazy like he is this game. Better than all inning every game but it seems like all his games are one of like 3 builds and I find it boring

He has been the most aggressive Protoss in the NASL these past few weeks. Seriously, players like Socke, Hasu, etc are much much more passive than Cruncher.

He did some Voidray/Colossus builds before, great, but that isn't what he does now.


Turtling doesn't have to be VR colossus

Show me a Protoss in PvT that has been more aggressive than Cruncher has this game, I dare you (whilst expanding)





Cruncher attacks multiple times, takes 9! bases, constantly harasses qxc's expansions and people still call it "turtling."

Yeah it's a fucking joke. But it goes to show that people don't even bother to actually watch the game and just blindly hate on a player for the sake of it


TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#330
On June 03 2011 11:36 zyzq wrote:
horrible gg timing


qxc is the biggest tryhard ever. He's comeback from ridiculous scenarios because of it.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#331
On June 03 2011 11:38 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 11:37 Dommk wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:34 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:32 Dommk wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:28 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:24 Sight- wrote:
I don't get why people hate cruncher? he seems not that awful?

Not quite idras level but...

Edit: In the same league for sure.


Just my opinion, but it's mostly that he is really boring to watch. I'm even yawning right now

I guess the best way to describe it would be he either all ins off 2 base or turtles like crazy like he is this game. Better than all inning every game but it seems like all his games are one of like 3 builds and I find it boring

He has been the most aggressive Protoss in the NASL these past few weeks. Seriously, players like Socke, Hasu, etc are much much more passive than Cruncher.

He did some Voidray/Colossus builds before, great, but that isn't what he does now.


Turtling doesn't have to be VR colossus

Show me a Protoss in PvT that has been more aggressive than Cruncher has this game, I dare you (whilst expanding)


Cruncher attacks multiple times, takes 9! bases, constantly harasses qxc's expansions and people still call it "turtling."

Yup. People are being soo bias against Cruncher. Nothing but awesome Protoss mass gateway/ mass expand play. Really cool to watch, and this is coming from someone who wanted nothing more than Cruncher to crash and burn out of the scene a few months ago.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#332
On June 03 2011 11:39 Monoamine wrote:
Wow, Gretorp and Xeris are really starting to annoy me with this archon QQ.


They haven't complained at any point...they've said archons are really good a couple of times. That's...a positive remark?
JuuMeijin
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden164 Posts
June 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#333
Balls bro
y_y
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#334
On June 03 2011 11:37 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 11:34 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:32 Dommk wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:28 Clog wrote:
On June 03 2011 11:24 Sight- wrote:
I don't get why people hate cruncher? he seems not that awful?

Not quite idras level but...

Edit: In the same league for sure.


Just my opinion, but it's mostly that he is really boring to watch. I'm even yawning right now

I guess the best way to describe it would be he either all ins off 2 base or turtles like crazy like he is this game. Better than all inning every game but it seems like all his games are one of like 3 builds and I find it boring

He has been the most aggressive Protoss in the NASL these past few weeks. Seriously, players like Socke, Hasu, etc are much much more passive than Cruncher.

He did some Voidray/Colossus builds before, great, but that isn't what he does now.


Turtling doesn't have to be VR colossus

Show me a Protoss in PvT that has been more aggressive than Cruncher has this game, I dare you (whilst expanding)


Lol. I'm saying I find his play boring. Don't really care if you think differently. Maybe I didn't explain it in the best way, but the guy asked why people hate him, and that's my pov. Sitting around until 2/2+ upgrades, HT, and 3 bases doesn't strike me as aggressive but to each his own
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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#335
On June 03 2011 11:39 Monoamine wrote:
Wow, Gretorp and Xeris are really starting to annoy me with this archon QQ.


Ya, he's harping on it so much...
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#336
Archon isn't OP. When Protoss has 3-4 more bases, he is supposed to win easily. If it were equal bases, Cruncher would be in trouble with wasting so many templars and archons. Archons are good, but not OP.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#337
Protoss has the most testosterone of all the races. Balls balls balls
DeadPixels
Profile Joined October 2010
United States78 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#338
On June 03 2011 11:39 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 11:38 Grimwold wrote:
Archon is way OP

Sigh, can't we just recognize when someone completely outplays their opponent instead of blaming the game itself?

Kinda hard when the casters won't shut up about how QXC played "amazingly well" and how Protoss has "so many death balls they can use."
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#339

Xeris is hilarious.... I love that comment. "Protoss showing you don't need the collossus deathball to win... you can just use the archon deathball"
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#340
On June 03 2011 11:39 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 11:38 Grimwold wrote:
Archon is way OP

Sigh, can't we just recognize when someone completely outplays their opponent instead of blaming the game itself?


Honestly just cause its cruncher people start the op unit bullshit. Qxc got crushed and outplayed totally plain and simple. Just cause u hate cruncher theres no reason to bring this shit in here
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