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I have a feeling this is going to be one of those games that perfectly shows why zerg complains about ZvP
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South Africa4280 Posts
On May 26 2011 20:20 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:18 Yaotzin wrote:On May 26 2011 20:17 Tobberoth wrote:On May 26 2011 20:14 R3N wrote:On May 26 2011 20:11 TehForce wrote:On May 26 2011 20:04 Sarang wrote:On May 26 2011 20:01 Highways wrote:
Am I the only one that reckons zerg requires no micro?
Terran has to work their ass off to marine spilt, target banes and not get surrounded by lings. While zerg is just a-moving their blings? I mean a-move will make the lings auto surround as well.
Dunno, not impressed with revival, it was ensnare doing all the micro moves while zerg was attack moving the whole game. No you're not. LosirA actually said he chose Zerg because they're the "a-move" race. ^^ ah okay so i am only hallucinating when i have to: - Send Lings/Blings/Roaches/Infestors/Mutas from various different angles into the battle, paying attention to that Ling/Roach are first
- Dont let my roaches clump because tanks own them
- Make sure Banelings hit Marines and not Marauder/Thor/Tanks
- Fungal with Infestors and move them back
- Dont EVER let my mutas clump
- Bonus: Inject or you will lose your next fight
And all that at the same time. Screw one up and you lose the fight or even the game. (Of course only if armies are equal) zerg is still the most a-move friendly race in the game. sometimes protoss goes on par with them but most of the time toss can't a-move. doesn't mean zerg mechanically takes less skill to play. actually requires more of that imo. If you by "toss can't a-move" mean "toss can, should and will a-move", you are correct. No race can a-move even close to as often and effectively as toss. a-moving toss is fucking awful. Try actually play them before you spout bullshit. I play toss a lot, it's my vacation when I'm too tired to play zerg since zerg requires way too much multitasking. A move, ctrl-click colossus and move them back when needed.
So you play them and you're bad at it, ok.
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I feel uneasy for Fruitdealer.
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ok deathball mode : on
I think FD is done...
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On May 26 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:13 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:12 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:12 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:06 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is Fruitdealer vs Ace
First map will be on Bel'shir beach Fruitdealer spawns at the North Ace spawns at the South 2:30 Ace is going for an expansion first Fruit dealer getting pool then gas 3:30 Forge now finishing Zergling speed upgrade is now on the way 4:30 Hatchery now on the way for fruitdealer Lots of lings are being produced now 7:00 Stargate on the way now for Ace Fruitdealer just lost a large amount of Zerglings trying to take out the probe line of Ace Third on the way for Fruitdealer 8:30 Evo chamber is finished and a lair is on the way for fruitdealer One voidray is making its way towards the base of Fruitdealer 10:20 Spire is on the way for Fruit dealer along with burrow, roach speed and +1 missile attack 7 gate ways are now up for Ace along with a robo producing colossus while getting thermal lance 13:00 Corrupter on the way out for Fruitdealer while burrow move and +2 ranged upgrades are almost done Ace is now getting blink and Immortals while getting his Third up and Running
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Baneling nest and Drop tech are finishing for Fruitdealer
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On May 26 2011 20:21 Pajegetc wrote:
Serious question but when was last time FD won a series that wasn't an up and down match?
Ro32 last GSL. Won against Check and Lyn.
His ZvP is shaky though.
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On May 26 2011 20:21 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:20 Tobberoth wrote:On May 26 2011 20:18 Yaotzin wrote:On May 26 2011 20:17 Tobberoth wrote:On May 26 2011 20:14 R3N wrote:On May 26 2011 20:11 TehForce wrote:On May 26 2011 20:04 Sarang wrote:On May 26 2011 20:01 Highways wrote:
Am I the only one that reckons zerg requires no micro?
Terran has to work their ass off to marine spilt, target banes and not get surrounded by lings. While zerg is just a-moving their blings? I mean a-move will make the lings auto surround as well.
Dunno, not impressed with revival, it was ensnare doing all the micro moves while zerg was attack moving the whole game. No you're not. LosirA actually said he chose Zerg because they're the "a-move" race. ^^ ah okay so i am only hallucinating when i have to: - Send Lings/Blings/Roaches/Infestors/Mutas from various different angles into the battle, paying attention to that Ling/Roach are first
- Dont let my roaches clump because tanks own them
- Make sure Banelings hit Marines and not Marauder/Thor/Tanks
- Fungal with Infestors and move them back
- Dont EVER let my mutas clump
- Bonus: Inject or you will lose your next fight
And all that at the same time. Screw one up and you lose the fight or even the game. (Of course only if armies are equal) zerg is still the most a-move friendly race in the game. sometimes protoss goes on par with them but most of the time toss can't a-move. doesn't mean zerg mechanically takes less skill to play. actually requires more of that imo. If you by "toss can't a-move" mean "toss can, should and will a-move", you are correct. No race can a-move even close to as often and effectively as toss. a-moving toss is fucking awful. Try actually play them before you spout bullshit. I play toss a lot, it's my vacation when I'm too tired to play zerg since zerg requires way too much multitasking. A move, ctrl-click colossus and move them back when needed. So you play them and you're bad at it, ok.
Bad at toss? Is that even possible? Any zerg who is decent can play toss just fine with minimal training.
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On May 26 2011 20:19 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:12 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
No, it's not okay, if you lose your hatch and the T has a cc up you are 90% dead. Um... and if Ensnare had made more than 12 mining SCVs or made a command center, he would have never killed that hatch, due to having half the pressure and getting overrun. You should have double checked the unit tabs after that hatch died. Ensnare didn't have a 2nd out, had 12 SCVs, and got pushed back. Revival was fine after the fast hatch was killed, he only fell really behind when he lost his 3rd, 2nd, most of his drones, AND his army (including the mutas).
My phrase is pretty clear , I saw that Ensnare hadn't put down a cc, nice try.
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OMG GO FRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On May 26 2011 20:19 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:17 Tobberoth wrote:On May 26 2011 20:14 R3N wrote:On May 26 2011 20:11 TehForce wrote:On May 26 2011 20:04 Sarang wrote:On May 26 2011 20:01 Highways wrote:
Am I the only one that reckons zerg requires no micro?
Terran has to work their ass off to marine spilt, target banes and not get surrounded by lings. While zerg is just a-moving their blings? I mean a-move will make the lings auto surround as well.
Dunno, not impressed with revival, it was ensnare doing all the micro moves while zerg was attack moving the whole game. No you're not. LosirA actually said he chose Zerg because they're the "a-move" race. ^^ ah okay so i am only hallucinating when i have to: - Send Lings/Blings/Roaches/Infestors/Mutas from various different angles into the battle, paying attention to that Ling/Roach are first
- Dont let my roaches clump because tanks own them
- Make sure Banelings hit Marines and not Marauder/Thor/Tanks
- Fungal with Infestors and move them back
- Dont EVER let my mutas clump
- Bonus: Inject or you will lose your next fight
And all that at the same time. Screw one up and you lose the fight or even the game. (Of course only if armies are equal) zerg is still the most a-move friendly race in the game. sometimes protoss goes on par with them but most of the time toss can't a-move. doesn't mean zerg mechanically takes less skill to play. actually requires more of that imo. If you by "toss can't a-move" mean "toss can, should and will a-move", you are correct. No race can a-move even close to as often and effectively as toss. At 200/200 yes toss can a-move, before that toss requires ALOT of micro.
Any army that tends to have a lead can a-move. Late game TvP a-move fails, easiest way to lose the game.
And it is near impossible to win against Baneling/Infestor Zergs by a-moving
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Ok Fruitdealer is back...that was great play
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FRUITDEALER!!! YEAH banelings!
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So I heard stalkers were good against banelings huh
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Well, i did not expect that outcome
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On May 26 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:13 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:12 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:12 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 20:06 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is Fruitdealer vs Ace
First map will be on Bel'shir beach Fruitdealer spawns at the North Ace spawns at the South 2:30 Ace is going for an expansion first Fruit dealer getting pool then gas 3:30 Forge now finishing Zergling speed upgrade is now on the way 4:30 Hatchery now on the way for fruitdealer Lots of lings are being produced now 7:00 Stargate on the way now for Ace Fruitdealer just lost a large amount of Zerglings trying to take out the probe line of Ace Third on the way for Fruitdealer 8:30 Evo chamber is finished and a lair is on the way for fruitdealer One voidray is making its way towards the base of Fruitdealer 10:20 Spire is on the way for Fruit dealer along with burrow, roach speed and +1 missile attack 7 gate ways are now up for Ace along with a robo producing colossus while getting thermal lance 13:00 Corrupter on the way out for Fruitdealer while burrow move and +2 ranged upgrades are almost done Ace is now getting blink and Immortals while getting his Third up and Running 16:00 Baneling nest and Drop tech are finishing for Fruitdealer
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With good baneling drops and corrupter micro the Death ball of Ace is taken out
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On May 26 2011 20:21 Pajegetc wrote:
Serious question but when was last time FD won a series that wasn't an up and down match?
He got into Ro16 last time?
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Show us the way Fruitdealer!
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wow where did those corruptors come from
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Fruitdealer~!!!! That was reminiscent of his season 1 baneling drops.
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EPT
