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Further balance whining will result in severe bans. Time stamp 21:09 KST.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
May 26 2011 16:52 GMT
#2581
So much of the whining just comes from the fact that people are attached to FD.. which is fine, he is an amazing player.but come on... comments like "f Ace, f this game?" can you grow up?? Jokes on you, you look like a little baby.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
May 26 2011 16:52 GMT
#2582
Wolf sums up how I felt about Moletraps casting today

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EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
May 26 2011 17:02 GMT
#2583
On May 27 2011 01:52 edhead999 wrote:
Not to derail or anything... but I think you have a picture of Puma instead of Ace...

Just sayin'.


That's actually (Z)s2.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 26 2011 17:11 GMT
#2584
Thanks, I'll correct it.

And I4ll detail MKP's build :p
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 26 2011 17:17 GMT
#2585
Nice casting today from Wolf, enjoyed it a lot.
MKP just totally outclassing squirtle :D, nice day of Sc2, good games, just dissappointed FruitDealer lost in that fashion
kweer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States34 Posts
May 26 2011 17:21 GMT
#2586
though I'm rooting for MKP to win it as always, I'd actually have my money on an MC / Nestea finals.
Void rays are the new black.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 17:40:22
May 26 2011 17:30 GMT
#2587
After standard depot rax rine OC, he fast 2nd depot to wall quickly.
Non stop rines/scv
CC@20/27
2 more rax@22/27
2 gas@24
depot@25
1 techlab when the 2 rax finished, start stim
still constant rines from 3 rax
first marauder@35
techlab and reactor@38, OC lift at natural
now the 2 techlab rax go marauders non stop, start concshell then shields
ghost academy@44/54
start 2 ghosts @62/78 (about 8 minutes in)
engbay and resume marauders
+1 weapon started
push xD (9 minutes in) with 18 rines, 5 marauders, (+2 just finished but not yet with the army) and 2 ghosts The push hits at 9:20 because of metalo close air. It's good to note that the first observer pop just in time and scouts the ghosts who lurk far behind the army, which allow squirtle to split his sentries, but MKP target the 2 with the most energy I think, then insta snipe the sentry which make a guardian shield <3

He's 94 food to 83. Watching his money shows me that the build is extremely well timed, never goes over 100 except for the ghosts. The 3 raxes have zero downtime (except again when saving money for the ghosts, but the downtime is a few seconds only as marauders finish building nearly perfectly in time)

So MKP should have at least 2 more marauders at this point, but I think it's way too subtle to detect with scouting the front.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 26 2011 17:37 GMT
#2588
damnit even though I am huge FD fanboy, I didn't think he'd end up winning. Oh well I hope he will become good again, I think he just doesn't practice as much while everyone else puts in more time. Would love to see him win another GSL.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 17:48:32
May 26 2011 17:43 GMT
#2589
On May 27 2011 02:30 MrCon wrote:
So MKP should have at least 2 more marauders at this point, but I think it's way too subtle to detect with scouting the front.


Yeah not without applying pressure, which would be the only way to view the decreased marauder count or increased marine count, and then again not guaranteed to work anyway. When you are code anything versus two time GSL finalist (in short incongruent skill level), you need to pick a specific direction and stick with it, and hope you can outplay your opponent over a short amount of time to minimize the obvious weakness and milk the advantages of all its worth. Squirtle wouldnt have been able to win going toe to toe with MKP anyway. Thats kind of how ro64 should be.

I am surprised he didnt 4 gate but then again 4 gate verse terran is meh to begin with, and MKP knows that and knows that squirtle knows that, so fast expand was a good metagame choice by MKP.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 26 2011 17:46 GMT
#2590
In fact, Squirtle applied pressure (he even killed one marine), until marauders are out and he retreated.
I think this build counters very well the nexus first, and perhaps the one gate expo.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 26 2011 17:49 GMT
#2591
Aww. I was really hoping for a FD MKP game, but at least my Terran bro mkp is on pace to be the true special event king :D
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 17:57:08
May 26 2011 17:53 GMT
#2592
On May 27 2011 02:46 MrCon wrote:
In fact, Squirtle applied pressure (he even killed one marine), until marauders are out and he retreated.
I think this build counters very well the nexus first, and perhaps the one gate expo.


Yeah Nexus first is ultra greedy economy, almost on the eco-cheese level. You are pretty much giving up any sort of ability to apply any serious pressure in the early game and scouting and map control as well until higher tech is opened up. One gate is pretty much just as greedy except on really big maps where the investment is mitigated. Huk seems to really like 1 gate expo since he does it quite a lot, he has had mostly success with it except to really early allins with all worker count, in which case the obvious happens.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 18:07:32
May 26 2011 18:05 GMT
#2593
watched FD vs Ace and really feel incorporation of good baneling usage/drops has really helped transform late game ZvP. I find it strange that Protoss complains about the infestor buff in ZvP since I think effective use of banelings has had way more of an influence on dealing with the Protoss ball than Infestors being buffed.

of course I have no idea how the remaining game(s) transpired. so FD might have just ended up being rolled over by late game Toss, but there's been several ZvPs in the last month where banelings have been so good for the Zerg player.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
kathode
Profile Joined April 2010
United States265 Posts
May 26 2011 18:13 GMT
#2594
Yess MKP!! Wish I stayed up for the match but it was just way too late in the night =[
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 18:17:28
May 26 2011 18:15 GMT
#2595
Ace sniped FD's greater spire which removed Fruitdealers ability to "shoot up." Ace took advantage of this and made a couple void rays and killed Fruitdealers Blood lords which also had no corrupter support as they were all morphed. Ace was literally dead up until that point since all Ace had was blink stalkers I think and high templar tech coming out.

The other game fruitdealer lost was to a 7 gate blink stalker +2 timing attack that was not messed with in any way by fruitdealer and dealer had only two spines and was taking his third.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
May 26 2011 18:39 GMT
#2596
On May 27 2011 00:00 Blasphemi wrote:
Whenever a player plays and the entire LR thread is devoted to claiming that his race is overpowered, it's a good indication that the player in question is total boss.

MKP back in form.

One day people will realise players like MC, Nestea, MKP don't play overpowered races, they're just overpowered players.



Quoting this shimmering beacon of hope amongst the chaos of this thread.

Great to see MKP taking down protoss like it ain't no thang. He's got a rough ROUGH bracket tho, but if he makes it to the finals I think he'll give us a damn good show.

I bet Inca wishes he had MKP's bracket. pretty much pure toss until the RO4 (unless Min is better than I'm giving him credit for which is a distinct possibility).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 26 2011 18:40 GMT
#2597
lol how did MKP vs Squirtle Game 1 get so many Yes votes

people are pulling that much for MKP nowadays?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
May 26 2011 18:41 GMT
#2598
Just watching the VODs and man wolf and moletrap are hilarious today!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 26 2011 18:43 GMT
#2599
Glad Fruitdealer lost. Time for him to disappear for good.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
May 26 2011 18:44 GMT
#2600
Oh that reminds me, anybody in the know tell me anything about the pause game by the observers in the ensnare verse revival game? I cant remember if there is precedence for that.
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