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Further balance whining will result in severe bans. Time stamp 21:09 KST.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 26 2011 18:45 GMT
#2601
Ugh painful matches... sad to see some many favorites lose to stupid shit, halfway their own fault... still blah...
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 18:51:47
May 26 2011 18:51 GMT
#2602
so much complaining about this emp timing push


i face the push ALL THE TIME in master league. exactly the way MKP did it


the counter is to use a standard build but from now on i always keep 100% of my army spread out at my expansion awaiting the coming emp timing push. the counter is having pre-spread units and also during battle i dont 1A my force and forget it, i 1A and then select varioud groups and unclump them before they have time to clump and i spread my units while the fight is going on

the counter to EMP is good spread micro. if you dont do that and your entire army can get EMP'd then you lose automatically. thats the reality.

i have 250 natural meaningful APM so i can actually do this spread micro if i concentrate enough but its hard for most people i guess



if 12 minutes comes and theres no emp timing i am more liberal with my spreading out because at that point i can usually have map awareness to see where the ghosts are



this does not mean every game i build a counter to the ghost push. no i play standard and usually expect cloaked banshees or a massive MMM stim timing, however emp timings can be countered you must have pre-spread units and good spread-micro to do it however
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
May 26 2011 18:55 GMT
#2603
God dammit Fruitdealer! You break my heart every time you lose. sad face.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 26 2011 18:59 GMT
#2604
On May 27 2011 03:44 Medrea wrote:
Oh that reminds me, anybody in the know tell me anything about the pause game by the observers in the ensnare verse revival game? I cant remember if there is precedence for that.

They have a button in the booth to request a pause, if you read the rules they must use this button and not "pp". (the button is necessary in case of a keyboard failure)
I think it's one of the players who requested a pause, an observer wouldn't dare to do it (unless it's the obs who has a mouse failure and can't obs anymore ?)
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
May 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#2605
On May 27 2011 03:59 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 03:44 Medrea wrote:
Oh that reminds me, anybody in the know tell me anything about the pause game by the observers in the ensnare verse revival game? I cant remember if there is precedence for that.

They have a button in the booth to request a pause, if you read the rules they must use this button and not "pp". (the button is necessary in case of a keyboard failure)
I think it's one of the players who requested a pause, an observer wouldn't dare to do it (unless it's the obs who has a mouse failure and can't obs anymore ?)


Oh good points. We have seen players use pp though (DRG). That pause was hyper short though, and when the camera viewed the players, neither player seemed to be having issues. Mouse issue on the observer then? Hmm cant remember specifically what was being looked at during the stream.
twitch.tv/medrea
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 26 2011 19:26 GMT
#2606
On May 27 2011 03:45 Krehlmar wrote:
Ugh painful matches... sad to see some many favorites lose to stupid shit, halfway their own fault... still blah...


Which favourite lost today? :o
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#2607
On May 26 2011 17:33 RJau wrote:
Squirtle v MarineKing is going to be a pretty tight match. Looking forward to it.
[image loading]

You were very wrong : )
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
May 26 2011 19:51 GMT
#2608
3/4 not bad on liquid. if only i didn't have an ogs bias i might not have voted for ensnare.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 19:53:41
May 26 2011 19:52 GMT
#2609
I think wolf with his game knowledge is one half of the new casting archon (casting dark archon?). Please pick a higher level knowledgeable player for the next caster and put them with wolf then we will all be happy
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#2610
Woo! Ace, Hongun and MKP made it through!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10372 Posts
May 26 2011 20:10 GMT
#2611
@ZeromuS

I do not understand how people can judge whether or not someone has a high level of knowledge. Unless you are a pro or are one of the best players, how do you know whether or not they're saying is right of if they're missing something? Basically it all comes down to what the caster/commentators can present, and whether it convinces you or not. Ok, so let's say this commentator is like Day9 and although he can't play at the pro level, he understands the game very well. Then again, it all comes down to how well they can convince you. Furthermore, commentators are limited to what they can say because it has to relate to what's going on in the game, or are held back by their ability to explain something at a given time. Once again, it comes down to commentating ability and their ability to express what they feel.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
May 26 2011 20:20 GMT
#2612
A little ridiculous that Wolftrap gets the excellent series while Tastosis seems to be getting the subpar ones but whatever it's not like there's anything that can be done about that. I'm loving bel-shir beach I think it's a great map that's producing some really fun games.

I don't know what to make of FD Ace game 3 so I don't think I'm even going to go there.
HighQuality
Profile Joined October 2010
United States56 Posts
May 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#2613
On May 27 2011 05:10 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
@ZeromuS

I do not understand how people can judge whether or not someone has a high level of knowledge. Unless you are a pro or are one of the best players, how do you know whether or not they're saying is right of if they're missing something? Basically it all comes down to what the caster/commentators can present, and whether it convinces you or not. Ok, so let's say this commentator is like Day9 and although he can't play at the pro level, he understands the game very well. Then again, it all comes down to how well they can convince you. Furthermore, commentators are limited to what they can say because it has to relate to what's going on in the game, or are held back by their ability to explain something at a given time. Once again, it comes down to commentating ability and their ability to express what they feel.

You can tell when someone doesn't have a high level of sc2 knowledge when they are WRONG, regardless of how convincing they are.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 26 2011 20:38 GMT
#2614
On May 27 2011 05:20 proxY_ wrote:
I don't know what to make of FD Ace game 3 so I don't think I'm even going to go there.

I would rewatch it to figure out wtf happened, but it's just too depressing. That on top of finals and papers, and I'll never get out of this black hole of depression.

Oh well. FD still played way better than I expected he would play today, which is enough for me. (... no, not really, but I have to console myself somehow.)
laurine90
Profile Joined May 2011
Serbia33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 20:44:48
May 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#2615
ush the investissment toss makes into sentries compared to the cost effectivness and multi role of it s direct counter the ghosts is very questionnable one might say rofl
peace love
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 26 2011 20:40 GMT
#2616
yeah, i hope FD returns to his glory days, he was doing so well... then Ace just 1a'd his ass...
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 26 2011 20:41 GMT
#2617
FD should have had that last game, but it made for a really entertaining series. As far as the MKP Squirtle series goes, I think MKP should have won anyways but Squirtle looked to be playing under his potential. Great builds by MKP using the new ghost buff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#2618
On May 27 2011 05:40 Kazeyonoma wrote:
yeah, i hope FD returns to his glory days, he was doing so well... then Ace just 1a'd his ass...

Eh, let's not go there. Ace played pretty damn well and took advantage of FD's blunder in the last game. Whatever the hell that blunder was. I just remember FD absolutely dominating and then all of a sudden he somehow transitioned into losing his entire base.

I can just imagine how frustrated he must be after that game, though. I hope he doesn't beat himself up over it and go into a slump, because he played extraordinarily well for the most part. It was kind of like watching FD from GSL1 again, especially in that Game 1.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 26 2011 21:28 GMT
#2619
Man, those ensnare vs revival games. wtffffffffffffffff
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 21:42:07
May 26 2011 21:32 GMT
#2620
Sorry edited my post. Don't feel like starting an argument.
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