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Medrea
10003 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:30 babylon wrote: You know what's ridiculous? FruitDealer and July out, while Revival gets the nod to the second round. Damn brackets. I'm not at all bitter, can you tell? Yeah Im not sure why Revival and ensnare got pitted against eachother, kinda silly. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:00 Blasphemi wrote: Whenever a player plays and the entire LR thread is devoted to claiming that his race is overpowered, it's a good indication that the player in question is total boss. MKP back in form. One day people will realise players like MC, Nestea, MKP don't play overpowered races, they're just overpowered players. People weren't claiming imbalance, merely discussing proper ways to scout and react to ghosts, when Medrea offered completely absurd and nonsensical solutions, that's all. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:34 Medrea wrote: This is as about as forehead slapping as it can possibly get and I would post a picture of this but since TL doesnt like meme's I willl decline as I like having a clean record. A banshee and a blue flame helion response have somewhat similar responses (at least as far as what you are building) and do not share responses with other all ins, which is fine since the telegraphs are also different. I did not know, that even at this masters level, the concept of checking off strategies via pressure and developing builds that are strong against groups of related builds the opponent has the options of doing, is not present. Especially when this is prevalent in almost every major RTS game since the 90's. more derail? You say you should know whats happening when you see the front. Again. How do you know the difference between? cloak banshees / blue flames / ghosts or him just going "LOL he thinks im teching and pulling his SCVs" SIMPLY. SIMPLY by running into bunkers and getting vision - and obviously ur smart enough not to keep losing units and hp to fast DPS marines in bunkers with repair SCVs. behind it. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:47 Medrea wrote: Your right, scouting the front is bad. Don't do it. Go rock, paper, scissors build and hope for the best. Theres no way. Sorry guys guess I was wrong, cannot tell what Terran is doing until they go down the ramp. Only been playing RTS since Herzog Zwei practically invented it in 1990. Excuse me. Are you a child? When did I say scouting the front is bad? You say... Count units properly and you should know whats happening. I say... I counted marines, but he has 5 strategies to choose from, tell me how to scout. You say... Only been playing RTS sinze Herzong Zwei invented in 1990. I'll say it again. sc2 - isn't simple. You don't scout the front and are in immediate comfort zone. I'm watching Naniwa stream, you know what he said in chat. "Can't scout that sh*t"... after he got 1 base raven banshee tank scv marine all in'd. ♥ | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:47 Medrea wrote: Your right, scouting the front is bad. Don't do it. Go rock, paper, scissors build and hope for the best. Theres no way. Sorry guys guess I was wrong, cannot tell what Terran is doing until they go down the ramp. Only been playing RTS since Herzog Zwei practically invented it in 1990. I been playing rts since c&c 1 doesn't mean I'm any good. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:50 NExt wrote: Excuse me. Are you a child? When did I say scouting the front is bad? You say... Count units properly and you should know whats happening. I say... I counted marines, but he has 5 strategies to choose from, tell me how to scout. You say... Only been playing RTS sinze Herzong Zwei invented in 1990. I'll say it again. sc2 - isn't simple. You don't scout the front and are in immediate comfort zone. I'm watching Naniwa stream, you know what he said in chat. "Can't scout that sh*t"... after he got 1 base raven banshee tank scv marine all in'd. ♥ Game is broken, Terran cant be scouted. Game is rock paper scissors. We'll go with that. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:55 Medrea wrote: Game is broken, Terran cant be scouted. Game is rock paper scissors. We'll go with that. good reply. fits with all ur other posts gl hf hard to believe u would ever lose to terrans cause u know exactly what they are doing since u scout their front. AM I RIGHT? | ||
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GoBaja
United States49 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:50 pieman819 wrote: I been playing rts since c&c 1 doesn't mean I'm any good. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On May 27 2011 01:01 Medrea wrote: Well no scouting is infallible, whether or not one player wins or not is down to the individual skill levels of the players, with respect to behind the scenes metagaming of course and the information obtained by both sides. Are you saying scouting the front doesn't tell you everything u need to know, whilst it does reveal some units, it doesn't tell you almost exactly the Terrans entire plan? Thats what scouting the front can almost exactly tell you if you can count units | ||
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bobwhiz
United States725 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
 he had no observer, coulda just burrowed | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
But no you cant tell anything at all. July got gipped out IMO. He scouted like 96 percent of Mins base and barely missed the spire. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On May 27 2011 01:09 Medrea wrote: Keyword almost. You can often say that your opponent is doing a really good XY or Z, or a really bad AB or C. But no you cant tell anything at all. interesting... well... seems I have to do more than run into bunkers to know what my T buddy is doing. sad times. sad times... indeed ♥ | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
MKP did gasless 1 rax FE in both games. That is hindered to any kind of standard 3gate pressure (or straight up dies to 4gate). Squirtle chose to do a nexus first build and then a pretty slow 3gate DT expand build when he saw that MKP was going 1rax FE again. I'm pretty sure he could have just 3gate with heavy sentries and FF'd the ramp, walked around the bunker and forced MKP's OC to lift off. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On May 27 2011 01:32 PartyBiscuit wrote: Just watched some of the VoDs, were people balance whining about MKP? If they were it doesn't really make a ton of sense, MKP did a ghost timing but from some of the posts I was thinking he ghost rushed and maybe scanned up the ramp to EMP sentries and roll through... MKP did gasless 1 rax FE in both games. That is hindered to any kind of standard 3gate pressure (or straight up dies to 4gate). Squirtle chose to do a nexus first build and then a pretty slow 3gate DT expand build when he saw that MKP was going 1rax FE again. I'm pretty sure he could have just 3gate with heavy sentries and FF'd the ramp, walked around the bunker and forced MKP's OC to lift off. Nah no balance whine (well one guy but that was lawls), just scout...... non balance....... nonwhine. I see protoss doing a lot of 1 gate expand against terran, especially on taldarim, seems pretty stable. MKP blew out Squirtle with overall better play. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
did MKP think this GTSL ??? :D | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
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Plaaguu
United States406 Posts
Just sayin'. | ||
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