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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xXKN7.jpg) The UBC StarCraft Cup is back for season two, the biggest student-run tournament in the history of SC2!
TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS (NOOBS, GOSUS, YOUR PETS, I DON'T CARE WHO JUST TELL EVERYONE) TO SIGN UP NAO
This is a BYOC event, but cybergaming is providing us with 4 machines and some exec members are bringing extra machines as well. NCIX is sponsoring us a mobile machine for everyone to test out as well, but we may have it as display only and give it out as grand prize .
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QAb0G.jpg) July 2: Qualification Day 1 Check-in starts at 11:00AM and closes at 12:00PM. Please show up on time Games start at 12:30 and wrap-up around 6:00PM
July 3: Qualification Day 2 Check-in starts at 11:00AM and closes at 12:00PM. Please show up on time Games start at 12:30 and wrap-up around 6:00PM
July 8: Final Event Games start at 6:00PM and ends at around 9:00PM
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FPNtP.jpg) Qualification Days 1 & 2 are held in Irving K. Barber Learning Centre Room 182, 185, 260 & 261 Check-in Room 182, Desktops set up in Room 185, Laptops set up in Room 261, Food in Room 260 http://www.maps.ubc.ca/PROD/index_detail.php?show=y,n,y,n,n,y&bldg2Search=n&locat1=516&locat2=
Final Event is held in Hugh Dempster Pavilion Room 101 & 110 http://www.maps.ubc.ca/PROD/index_detail.php?show=y,n,n,n,n,y&bldg2Search=n&locat1=164
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Qualification Day 1
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Lx1Sn.jpg) + Show Spoiler +You are in "Code B" You will be placed in groups of 6 to 10 based on your ranking on July 1. Everyone will play each other once in Round Robin format, maximum 6 games. Top 4 or top 8 players will move on to Day 2 depending on number of participants from Code B.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MSZej.jpg) + Show Spoiler +You are in "Code A" You will be placed in groups of 6 to 10 based on your ranking on July 1. Everyone will play each other once in Round Robin format, maximum 6 games. Top 8 or top 24 players will move on to Day 2 depending on number of participants from Code A.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wLP0j.jpg) + Show Spoiler +You are in "Code S" You will be placed in groups of 6 to 10 based on your ranking on July 1. Everyone will play each other once in Round Robin format, maximum 6 games. Top 32 players will move on to Day 2.
Qualification Day 2 Top 48 or top 64 players from Day 1 will be played out in 2 separate double elimination brackets. The top 4 finishers will move on to the Final Event.
Winners' bracket will be Best-of-3, losers bracket will be Best-of-1.
Final Event Semi-Final: Best-of-5 series Final: Best-of-7 series
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/howfH.jpg) Estimated $1000+ prize pool
Prize distribution is roughly as follows: 32% 1st Place 16% 2nd Place 11% 3rd Place 8% 4th Place 5% Top 8 8% Code A Winner 5% Code B Winner
Raffle
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0GRno.png) To win the Tt eSports MEKA G1 Keyboard, you must 1) attend this event in person on July 2nd 2) pay in advance via PayPal or in person 3) be a UBC StarCraft Club facebook group member 4) be a @604starcraft twitter follower
To win the Razer Banshee Headset, you must 1) attend this event in person on July 8th 2) be a UBC StarCraft Club facebook group member 3) be a @604starcraft twitter follower
More prizes will be announced as we get confirmations from sponsors.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xWp0q.jpg) For UBCSC members: $10 For non-members: $15 This fee covers your food and drinks for both qualification days. A small donation is suggested for spectators.
To register, please fill out this form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDlPRXRPZG1xaUZmaGg3bS01YndZcGc6MQ&theme=0AX42CRMsmRFbUy1iY2E5ZGYyZi1iZTJhLTQ2ODUtYWZmNS04ZWFiZTRkNzk4NjA&ifq
Here are your payment options, in recommended order: 1) PayPal: currently working to set this up 2) In-Person: we will be setting up times and locations to meet 3) At-The-Door: if you pay at the door, you will not be entered in the raffle, use this as your last option.
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A7naW.png) NCIX is the main title sponsor of this event. They will be providing us a mobile, LAN-friendly, gaming PC built by Shuttle and Mushkin for us to demonstrate, and give it out as the grand prize. More details on this PC and other information will follow. http://www.NCIX.com http://facebook.com/NCIXdotCOM http://twitter.com/NCIXdotCOM http://www.youtube.com/NCIXcom
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Rt4Gi.png) UBC StarCraft Club would like to first congratulate the UBC CSL team for taking 1st place in CSL. The team's coordinator coLStalife and assistant coordinators MnMPeto and Stealthypoo have generously donated some of their winnings to our prize pool! Check out the team at: http://www.cstarleague.com/league/teams/89
The UBC Math Club is putting in some cash into the total prize pool. We would like to thank the president Michael Miller for his support and his interest in cooperating with our club, he will also be presenting the grand prize.
Cybergaming's Dallas Doan has generously agreed to let us use 4 computers they use for their tournaments. We appreciate his support in growing e-sports in Vancouver. Check out more on cybergaming on their website: http://www.cybergamingcentre.com/
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OabLI.jpg) Please email ubcstarcraft@hotmail.com with the title "UBC Cup" if you have any questions or feedbacks. Thank you!
Make sure to check out our facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_155630424470014&ap=1 associated twitter page: http://twitter.com/#!/604StarCraft blog: http://ubcsc.wordpress.com/
Q. I can drive and I can pick up some people around my area. What can I do? A. Please fill out this form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnUxF1fAr4vAdHdROVpHQ0JKUm9VMXVoRU80MlBGRVE&hl=en&authkey=CNPypawH Please contact the individuals who have posted their information if you need a ride. Keep in mind that priority will be given to those who are bringing bigger equipment.
Q. I can bring extra computers for people to use. What can I do? A. Please fill out this form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnUxF1fAr4vAdFpNRExPby13dHVxaXBKVDhCR2tXUWc&hl=en&authkey=COG7tsIJ Contact the individuals who have posted their information to see if the equipment is still available. As this is a BYOC, extra laptops and desktops are VERY MUCH appreciated.
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This map pool is dope. UBC HWAITING
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Tal'darim Alter RE -> LE rn't we??
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Do spectators need to pay for this event?
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It's suggested to donate.
To me, this is probably worth a $2 at least for each of the qualifiers and maybe even $5 for the finals.
I registered to play though!
Also, I think it is as really good prize pool breakdown, as lower leagues have a chance to win something too!
Silver League Fighting!!!
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Wish I was home for this
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On May 18 2011 23:29 tQWannaBe wrote: Tal'darim Alter RE -> LE rn't we?? shit.....it's ok, we're Asian
i'll fix it later LOL
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Errr, looks like a lot of fun. Since its BYoC I probably wont be able to make it but we'll see!
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registered~~ hopefully I don't go out 0-3 to saikou like last time T.T
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man if UW shows up, we'd easy this
EASY THIS
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Q/A was added for those having concerns about getting to the event as well as hardware topics.
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ohhh shit i wish i was in victoria :D
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UBC STARCRAFT CLUB FIGHTING! I think we are going to have some ridiculously good players turn up. I mean our CSL team alone has Stalife.
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id like to go but byoc tournys are bunk =\
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Sounds cool but the BYOC really kills it for me. Not way in hell am I bringing a 23 inch monitor across vancouver multiple times to play a couple of games. Bit of a shame cuz I would have probably signed up.
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You guys can try to set up carpools with people if that makes it easier for you.
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I understand BYOC events are not ideal for some people, and granted that I'm an organizer for this, I'd drive back and forth 10 times a day considering the format and prize pool .
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Nobody appreciates byoc LANs anymore.. sigh. Gone are the days when you'd see people on the bus with a tower in their lap.
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when is the latest i can sign up?
edit: actually n/m i didnt read the byoc until after i posted =/
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I wish SFU had a more active SC2 community.
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On May 19 2011 07:50 nvs. wrote:I wish SFU had a more active SC2 community. 
We need a united Vancouver wide community if the tournaments are going to keep growing. UBCSC is not just for ubc students, it's just about growing the community.
when is the latest i can sign up?
edit: actually n/m i didnt read the byoc until after i posted =/
Don't let BYOC scare you off, only about half the people at the last tournament actually brought computers, there is always enough to share, just as long as everyone makes their best effort to bring a computer if they have one.
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On May 19 2011 07:35 CanucksJC wrote:I understand BYOC events are not ideal for some people, and granted that I'm an organizer for this, I'd drive back and forth 10 times a day considering the format and prize pool  .
driving from langley to ubc is ~1 hour 15 min with little traffic. my HAF X tower aint goin anywhere its way too big to transport around
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On May 19 2011 07:50 nvs. wrote:I wish SFU had a more active SC2 community. 
lotta ppl at sfu play sc2, including myself... but theres no 'community' lol
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Is there a registration deadline anywhere? Can't seem to find it.
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On May 19 2011 07:50 nvs. wrote:I wish SFU had a more active SC2 community.  Join the ARC. Some SC2 players hang around in the Rotunda. If you stay after 5pm, you might find me... playing Magic the Gathering.
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On May 19 2011 13:04 Jtn wrote: Is there a registration deadline anywhere? Can't seem to find it.
Deadline will be 2 days before the tournament by midnight June 30th.
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Sounds like it'd be a blast, but BYOC isn't for me. Good luck with the tournament!
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On May 19 2011 06:47 sYstim wrote: id like to go but byoc tournys are bunk =\ you know what? I might bring 2 desktops, or juz one, still I can offer ppl to use mine
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wannabe has hax on his desktop tho cuz he's imba
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Gah, I leave to go home for the summer. Wish I could be there.
gl hf and props to you CanucksJC for the awesome organizing.
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The first UBC cup was a blast, I had a lot of fun. Expecting another awesome event!
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On May 20 2011 07:56 WardenSC wrote: The first UBC cup was a blast, I had a lot of fun. Expecting another awesome event! Then you better sign up
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Look really cool, I think i'll sign up, oh wait, I'm in China... cool lol just kidding but i really wish i could be there for this!
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this tournament now features... coLStalife, coLFireZerg, xiWarden and tQWannaBe LOL gg.
[edit] and now xSixnEAns......................
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On May 21 2011 10:38 CanucksJC wrote: this tournament now features... coLStalife, coLFireZerg, xiWarden and tQWannaBe LOL gg.
GL HF
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I signed up but my attendance is tentative because it's the Canada Day long weekend
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On May 21 2011 10:38 CanucksJC wrote: this tournament now features... coLStalife, coLFireZerg, xiWarden and tQWannaBe LOL gg.
[edit] and now xSixnEAns......................
Oh boy... Time to kidnap some people :D This tournament is shaping out to be a blast.
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for those of you who dont know... UBC itself has a fucking stack line up... at least 5 GM and 4 top master itself =_=....
have fun guys :-s... i hope the money go mostly to charity
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I signed up, looking forward to another offline event 
Thanks for putting this together.
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On May 22 2011 16:59 zorromiha wrote: i signed up but i doubt i can bring my XL watercooled tower and 24inch monitor so im gonna try to find a laptop, at the end of the day the byocreally hurts it, but its better then nothing so thanks guys for the effort thus far There will be a laptop / desktop you can use / share if you can't find one, just make sure to bring your own keyboard and mouse
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Excellent players, I can't wait to see the finals!
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Dear casters and commentators,
We are looking for casters and commentators to stream our UBC CUP semi/finals. UBC Cup is one of the largest SC II LAN tournament in Vancouver and many high leveled players are attending, stalife, firezerg, tQWannaBe, xiWarden, ValiditySAGA, vVvHasuu, etc. As we are student organization non-profit club, we cannot offer goods but we can put your stream logos in our posters as one of our proud sponsors. If you are interested in, and want to discuss more about it, feel free to contact me. Thank you.
-tQWannaBe, Jack Jungho Hwang
Also, WHY SO MANY GM'S @#$@$! Tell your noob friends to sign up too!
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On May 24 2011 09:12 CanucksJC wrote:
Also, WHY SO MANY GM'S @#$@$! Tell your noob friends to sign up too!
LOOOL 7 to 8 GMs now holy. Think we might need prize dedicated to masters? =D?
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On May 24 2011 09:54 Puporing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 09:12 CanucksJC wrote:
Also, WHY SO MANY GM'S @#$@$! Tell your noob friends to sign up too! LOOOL 7 to 8 GMs now holy. Think we might need prize dedicated to masters? =D?
Would be nice :D. Cheesing a GM 2 games in a row would be rather difficult =(.
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BC has a beast of a scene.
I lost count of all the low-mid master talent. Lots of high master talent, and players such as Stalife, Firezerg, Drewbie, Blur, ZaiZai, RoyalFlush, tQWannabe, optikzero, and the list simply just goes on.
Exciting stuff, and I would love to see another West Coast vs East Coast Canada match. :D
Edit: I must give a shout out to the massive scene below masters here in BC. Keep working hard to make this the epitome of the NA scene.
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On May 24 2011 10:10 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 09:54 Puporing wrote:On May 24 2011 09:12 CanucksJC wrote:
Also, WHY SO MANY GM'S @#$@$! Tell your noob friends to sign up too! LOOOL 7 to 8 GMs now holy. Think we might need prize dedicated to masters? =D? Would be nice :D. Cheesing a GM 2 games in a row would be rather difficult =(.
Right now there's 5% prize for each top 4 to top 8 players, so we'll see how many GMs are going to show up.
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Can i switch races in between matches? I'm a matchup / random player. Also i'm pretty terrible with computers would i just need to bring my moniter and tower? What about internet stuff.
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On May 24 2011 12:31 ZergBonjwa wrote: Can i switch races in between matches? I'm a matchup / random player. Also i'm pretty terrible with computers would i just need to bring my moniter and tower? What about internet stuff. Regarding race picking, we don't have a rule on it currently, but I'll bring this up tomorrow to the exec team. All you need to bring is your monitor and tower, we'll be providing ethernet cables and such  [edit] Michael suggests you bring your ethernet cable if you can too, it's not a lot of work really just one cord
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Thanks for putting this together.
Two quick questions:
1) The initial post states that the top 4 from Bronze/Silver/Gold will play against the top 4 from Platinum/Diamond, but it doesn't state exactly how many will advance. I would assume 4 (to go with the 60 from Masters/GM) to make a total a 64 for an easy single-elimination tournament. Is this correct?
2) Do you still need people to live cast? I don't have experience doing it, but I'd be happy to try!
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Hey Fizzer,
If you are interested in casting then you will have to meet up with us on our official casting intro day, which we will hold a week or two before the tournament. Send us an email at ubcstarcraft@hotmail.com to let us know if you are interested!
-UBC Starcraft Club VP Events
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On May 24 2011 14:25 Fizzer wrote: Thanks for putting this together.
Two quick questions:
1) The initial post states that the top 4 from Bronze/Silver/Gold will play against the top 4 from Platinum/Diamond, but it doesn't state exactly how many will advance. I would assume 4 (to go with the 60 from Masters/GM) to make a total a 64 for an easy single-elimination tournament. Is this correct?
2) Do you still need people to live cast? I don't have experience doing it, but I'd be happy to try! Top 4 Code A and Top 4 Code B will play a bo3 to select the 4 players moving on to the next day, so yes you are correct It's kind of like the up and down matches from GSL I guess lol.
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Noooooo!!! BYOC ruins this greatly Will still probably show though :D
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On May 25 2011 08:32 Seanzilla wrote:Noooooo!!! BYOC ruins this greatly Will still probably show though :D
There is some sharing around, but just try your best to bring your own in anycase.
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So if you're a code a or b player and you make it to the next day do you play against the code s players? If so why is there money for code A winners and stuff. Kind of confused on the format.
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On May 25 2011 09:13 Wiiaboo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 08:32 Seanzilla wrote:Noooooo!!! BYOC ruins this greatly Will still probably show though :D There is some sharing around, but just try your best to bring your own in anycase.
At the very least bring your own keyboard and mouse.
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On May 26 2011 05:45 ZergBonjwa wrote: So if you're a code a or b player and you make it to the next day do you play against the code s players? If so why is there money for code A winners and stuff. Kind of confused on the format. From the first day, the winners of code a and b are determined and prizes will go toward those 2 winners. We're also giving the low-level players a chance to play with higher-leveled players, just for fun. How far you get on the second day doesn't determine anything.
Maybe wording is a little confusing, I'll work to clear this up a little in the OP
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sounds like a pretty sick tournament! I'd sign up as a "unranked" player but I'll be in China by then =(
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On May 26 2011 05:54 CheAse wrote: sounds like a pretty sick tournament! I'd sign up as a "unranked" player but I'll be in China by then =( wow dodge more
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I will try, but my attendance is work-dependant which is weather-dependant. Would it be optimal for you guys to not sign up until I'm sure I can go, or to sign up now and cancel a registration if I cant? Also, how deep is the desk space? I ask because I play from my laptop but with a usb mouse and keyboard, and if the desk space isn't deep enough I have to set my keyboard to the side to use the laptop screen properly (surprisingly easy, but still annoying).
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On May 26 2011 14:43 TheHumanSensation wrote: I will try, but my attendance is work-dependant which is weather-dependant. Would it be optimal for you guys to not sign up until I'm sure I can go, or to sign up now and cancel a registration if I cant? Also, how deep is the desk space? I ask because I play from my laptop but with a usb mouse and keyboard, and if the desk space isn't deep enough I have to set my keyboard to the side to use the laptop screen properly (surprisingly easy, but still annoying).
You can just register now and leave a comment on the form saying there's a chance you might not make it. And let us know as soon as possible if you have to cancel by emailing us This would apply to anyone that registered, it helps us greatly to know how much food to order so we don't end up wasting.
Check out one of the main venues here: http://tinyurl.com/6dzdvky . The desks are large enough to fit both your laptop and keyboard in line and that was mainly why we chose the room 
Hope this helps.
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i might come if theres a guaranteed desktop i can use
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Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC
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On May 28 2011 08:11 sYstim wrote: i might come if theres a guaranteed desktop i can use Talk to tQWannaBe, or I can ask him if you want, because he's bringing 2 desktops, one for himself and one for ppl to share :D
On May 28 2011 08:16 Cocoba wrote:Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC  Yes UBC is kind of a big deal xD
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On May 28 2011 08:16 Cocoba wrote:Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC 
I like UBC a lot as well considering I go there...but I am curious, from a high-schooler's perspective who actually doesn't go to ubc, why exactly is it amazing? If starcraft is a bonus, then what makes up the main good part about UBC? Specifically what's good about it?
Ever since that lipdub video I am seeing a lot of "omg ubc is absolutely incredible/amazing"...and don't get me wrong I think it's a great school and all...but I am curious why people are saying it's so good...specifically those who don't even go to UBC and don't know what the experience is like.
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For starters, they're the only university in BC that I know of that has agricultural courses.
Also, it does, Puporing, thank you.
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UBC is basically the best school in BC, can't really go wrong.
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You know your club is cool when THE MATH CLUB SPONSORS YOUR EVENT lol
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On May 28 2011 13:25 CanucksJC wrote:You know your club is cool when THE MATH CLUB SPONSORS YOUR EVENT lol 
Math Club Hwaiting!!!
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On May 28 2011 11:09 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 08:16 Cocoba wrote:Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC  I like UBC a lot as well considering I go there...but I am curious, from a high-schooler's perspective who actually doesn't go to ubc, why exactly is it amazing? If starcraft is a bonus, then what makes up the main good part about UBC? Specifically what's good about it? Ever since that lipdub video I am seeing a lot of "omg ubc is absolutely incredible/amazing"...and don't get me wrong I think it's a great school and all...but I am curious why people are saying it's so good...specifically those who don't even go to UBC and don't know what the experience is like.
You'll need to get more than a handful of UBC'ers perspective to give UBC its rightful place It's a big and beautiful campus, I cannot think of another campus endowed with such a geographical location. We're known for a diverse campus population, and from that spawns a lot of different and unique ideas/program and drives international projects and collaborations like our exchange program, asian/africa studies. Tons of clubs also showcase this diversity. We're strong in sports and have our own competitions. UBC has always been the leader in sustainable development in North America being the first campus to initiate a sustainable campus initiative and opening the most high performance green building in NA this year.... (so I'm taking too much space here )
TL;DR version: UBC is what you make it to be with endless opportunities, just like this club, you can start your own
One thing I should mention, depending on your faculty, most likely you'll be in large lecture classes for the first couple of years. Not everyone likes that. But as you specialize it becomes a lot better.
That is all I have to say ^^
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On May 28 2011 14:13 Puporing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:09 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:On May 28 2011 08:16 Cocoba wrote:Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC  I like UBC a lot as well considering I go there...but I am curious, from a high-schooler's perspective who actually doesn't go to ubc, why exactly is it amazing? If starcraft is a bonus, then what makes up the main good part about UBC? Specifically what's good about it? Ever since that lipdub video I am seeing a lot of "omg ubc is absolutely incredible/amazing"...and don't get me wrong I think it's a great school and all...but I am curious why people are saying it's so good...specifically those who don't even go to UBC and don't know what the experience is like. You'll need to get more than a handful of UBC'ers perspective to give UBC its rightful place  It's a big and beautiful campus, I cannot think of another campus endowed with such a geographical location. We're known for a diverse campus population, and from that spawns a lot of different and unique ideas/program and drives international projects and collaborations like our exchange program, asian/africa studies. Tons of clubs also showcase this diversity. We're strong in sports and have our own competitions. UBC has always been the leader in sustainable development in North America being the first campus to initiate a sustainable campus initiative and opening the most high performance green building in NA this year.... (so I'm taking too much space here  ) TL;DR version: UBC is what you make it to be with endless opportunities, just like this club, you can start your own One thing I should mention, depending on your faculty, most likely you'll be in large lecture classes for the first couple of years. Not everyone likes that. But as you specialize it becomes a lot better. That is all I have to say ^^
I know what UBC has to offer as I already go there (just finished my third year) like I mentioned, I am asking more why high-schoolers are so excited about UBC and specifically what the reasons are. I feel like a lot of false hype is coming from that libdub video lol...
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Sounds really fun, I like that you have split up all the divisions but then they feed into each other - should be awesome 
I'm not sure of my summer schedule yet, when is the latest I can apply?
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On May 28 2011 11:09 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: I like UBC a lot as well considering I go there...but I am curious, from a high-schooler's perspective who actually doesn't go to ubc, why exactly is it amazing? If starcraft is a bonus, then what makes up the main good part about UBC? Specifically what's good about it?
Ever since that lipdub video I am seeing a lot of "omg ubc is absolutely incredible/amazing"...and don't get me wrong I think it's a great school and all...but I am curious why people are saying it's so good...specifically those who don't even go to UBC and don't know what the experience is like.
Well the greatest factor for me to go to UBC for post-secondary is because I have alot of family over there.
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On May 28 2011 15:38 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 14:13 Puporing wrote:On May 28 2011 11:09 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:On May 28 2011 08:16 Cocoba wrote:Wow I love UBC. The Starcraft Club is just a bonus for all the things that are amazing about UBC, can't wait to graduate high school and come to UBC  I like UBC a lot as well considering I go there...but I am curious, from a high-schooler's perspective who actually doesn't go to ubc, why exactly is it amazing? If starcraft is a bonus, then what makes up the main good part about UBC? Specifically what's good about it? Ever since that lipdub video I am seeing a lot of "omg ubc is absolutely incredible/amazing"...and don't get me wrong I think it's a great school and all...but I am curious why people are saying it's so good...specifically those who don't even go to UBC and don't know what the experience is like. You'll need to get more than a handful of UBC'ers perspective to give UBC its rightful place  It's a big and beautiful campus, I cannot think of another campus endowed with such a geographical location. We're known for a diverse campus population, and from that spawns a lot of different and unique ideas/program and drives international projects and collaborations like our exchange program, asian/africa studies. Tons of clubs also showcase this diversity. We're strong in sports and have our own competitions. UBC has always been the leader in sustainable development in North America being the first campus to initiate a sustainable campus initiative and opening the most high performance green building in NA this year.... (so I'm taking too much space here  ) TL;DR version: UBC is what you make it to be with endless opportunities, just like this club, you can start your own One thing I should mention, depending on your faculty, most likely you'll be in large lecture classes for the first couple of years. Not everyone likes that. But as you specialize it becomes a lot better. That is all I have to say ^^ I know what UBC has to offer as I already go there (just finished my third year) like I mentioned, I am asking more why high-schoolers are so excited about UBC and specifically what the reasons are. I feel like a lot of false hype is coming from that libdub video lol...
lol I totally misread you there. Main reason I went to UBC back in high school was because I really liked Vancouver whenever family came here for visits. And UBC seemed like the ideal choice..
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... Does anyone wanna meet up in the Burnaby area and help me get to UBC by transit if anyone is transitting? ... D:
And don't forget SFU man...lolz share some love.
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On May 28 2011 15:59 WackaAlpaca wrote:Sounds really fun, I like that you have split up all the divisions but then they feed into each other - should be awesome  I'm not sure of my summer schedule yet, when is the latest I can apply? We're setting the deadline at Jun 30, 2 days before it starts
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On May 28 2011 17:41 Yushimi wrote: ... Does anyone wanna meet up in the Burnaby area and help me get to UBC by transit if anyone is transitting? ... D:
And don't forget SFU man...lolz share some love.
We are going to share some love, tho we don't know anyone in SFU.
We will post this one's poster in SFU Burnaby and Surrey campus.
You can easily take 99 B-line from commercial-broadway to UBC. It directly comes to UBC.
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cant wait~~~~ <3 for those that are worried about BYOC, its true that its a bit annoying but its totally worth it~ last time some ppl were nice enough to share too~
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will the map selection be handled in same way as last time? it would be nice to be able to tick off maps again. i haven't played on half of those maps and feel some other less competitive players may suffer from the same problem.
time to man up and 1v1 ladder to get an easier bracket haha
glhf to everyone and thanks for hosting!
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On May 31 2011 11:14 Saeglopur wrote: will the map selection be handled in same way as last time? it would be nice to be able to tick off maps again. i haven't played on half of those maps and feel some other less competitive players may suffer from the same problem.
time to man up and 1v1 ladder to get an easier bracket haha
glhf to everyone and thanks for hosting!
We might take a poll on this later We realized that there might be too many maps in the map pool for everyone to practice on. Any suggestions are welcome here.
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On May 29 2011 01:47 tQWannaBe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:41 Yushimi wrote: ... Does anyone wanna meet up in the Burnaby area and help me get to UBC by transit if anyone is transitting? ... D:
And don't forget SFU man...lolz share some love. We are going to share some love, tho we don't know anyone in SFU. We will post this one's poster in SFU Burnaby and Surrey campus. You can easily take 99 B-line from commercial-broadway to UBC. It directly comes to UBC.
Lolz I'll be coming down I figured out a way there now! Thanks WannaBe <3
For the map pool, keep Xel Naga!! Love watching games on that map hahaha
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We will announce a Great-Great-and more Great news Soon !
If I spoil here shortly, + Show Spoiler +We got nice sponsors and commentators which will give us more prize pool !!! We are on the best track !
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so many good players in this city T_T
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godammit i am on vacation and not in Van at that time TT
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Love to see Warden in real life but I can't go as I gotta fly back to china for the summer to gain some GM level Chinese SC2 kungfu. I'll be back in sep. Prepare for some Chinese style y'all
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On June 01 2011 07:23 ZaiZai163 wrote: Love to see Warden in real life but I can't go as I gotta fly back to china for the summer to gain some GM level Chinese SC2 kungfu. I'll be back in sep. Prepare for some Chinese style y'all
Warden was there in our last tourny too =D there's a picture of him on our blog ubcsc.wordpress.com
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i have to admit, the new poster is sex
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I can't see 1/2 of every picture. :\ I would love to go to support Vancouver Esports, but I cannot bring my PC from Victoria lol.
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no mention of CSSS then again I don't think we actually did anything to help you guys this time around
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On June 01 2011 13:29 CanucksJC wrote: i have to admit, the new poster is sex
no u.
On June 01 2011 13:31 Barett wrote: I can't see 1/2 of every picture. :\ I would love to go to support Vancouver Esports, but I cannot bring my PC from Victoria lol.
There're at least 3 extra computers confirmed that our execs will bring, if that helps
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On June 01 2011 13:31 Barett wrote: I can't see 1/2 of every picture. :\ I would love to go to support Vancouver Esports, but I cannot bring my PC from Victoria lol. You can just bring your keyboard - mouse - headset, few extra computers will be there if u can't bring your laptop or desktop, I'm bringing extra too :D
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Oh god, the number of favors I am doing for my friends to help volunteer...
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will the map selection be handled in same way as last time? it would be nice to be able to tick off maps again. i haven't played on half of those maps and feel some other less competitive players may suffer from the same problem.
time to man up and 1v1 ladder to get an easier bracket haha
glhf to everyone and thanks for hosting!
Now NCIX is a sponsor for UBC Cup #2?? That is sick!!!!!! I also hope there are some changes made with regards to the map pool.. Like replacing some gsl maps with more familiar maps like backwater gulch (used in NASL and a ladder map), MLG testbug, or MLG typhon peak (also a ladder map)
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But all those maps are imba in one way or another D:
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I dont think backwater gulch or testbug is skewed towards any race tbh.. I can see tvz in typhon peak being advantageous for terran in vertical spawn positions though. But then again I have very limited knowledge in any other MUs except terran so maybe you're right lol
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On June 02 2011 15:31 WardenSC wrote: Now NCIX is a sponsor for UBC Cup #2?? That is sick!!!!!! I also hope there are some changes made with regards to the map pool.. Like replacing some gsl maps with more familiar maps like backwater gulch (used in NASL and a ladder map), MLG testbug, or MLG typhon peak (also a ladder map) testbug had a lot of issue with ZvT since it has pretty close spawn for always (no cross position since its 3 ppl map) and T has advantage to defend their expos too easy which makes ZvT too hard for Z, and backwater gulch is removed because of ZvP. Typhon peak is the only map we were considered, but since we put dual sight, we choose to take it out, still I want 'Teyrran peak' too
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sounds exciting, i'm gonna make some plans to compete...probably need to haul in a laptop/mouse/keyboard...questions here:
spectators - I have a friend who would love to come, but just for the reasons of morale support and spectating. Would this be supported by this tourney?
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On June 03 2011 03:03 D_K_night wrote: sounds exciting, i'm gonna make some plans to compete...probably need to haul in a laptop/mouse/keyboard...questions here:
spectators - I have a friend who would love to come, but just for the reasons of morale support and spectating. Would this be supported by this tourney?
Yup, totally fine to bring spectators. We just ask that they be good mannered and not interrupt other players, just good sportsmanship stuff.
I personally bring a couple friends along to help with the organization setting up etc.
Oh and if they want to they can make a small donation ; )
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On June 03 2011 05:47 Wiiaboo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 03:03 D_K_night wrote: sounds exciting, i'm gonna make some plans to compete...probably need to haul in a laptop/mouse/keyboard...questions here:
spectators - I have a friend who would love to come, but just for the reasons of morale support and spectating. Would this be supported by this tourney?
Yup, totally fine to bring spectators. We just ask that they be good mannered and not interrupt other players, just good sportsmanship stuff. I personally bring a couple friends along to help with the organization setting up etc. Oh and if they want to they can make a small donation ; )
oh, I just assumed that if he wants to spectate, he too, must pitch in $15 just like everyone else, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
another dumb question - for the ppl who do their part to bring in their own computers, are they obligated to stay so that others can "share" their machine? Just asking as I'm visualizing two possible extremes of people:
1) Extreme A: brings in his computer/mouse/kb, but is uncomfortable in sharing with strangers, so therefore comes in to do his matches, and then packs up and leaves.
2) Extreme B: brings in his gear, and cheerfully shares and cares to make the maximum possible contribution towards the event.
...and then every person who fits in shades of gray between the two. Any thoughts?
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On June 05 2011 17:03 D_K_night wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 05:47 Wiiaboo wrote:On June 03 2011 03:03 D_K_night wrote: sounds exciting, i'm gonna make some plans to compete...probably need to haul in a laptop/mouse/keyboard...questions here:
spectators - I have a friend who would love to come, but just for the reasons of morale support and spectating. Would this be supported by this tourney?
Yup, totally fine to bring spectators. We just ask that they be good mannered and not interrupt other players, just good sportsmanship stuff. I personally bring a couple friends along to help with the organization setting up etc. Oh and if they want to they can make a small donation ; ) oh, I just assumed that if he wants to spectate, he too, must pitch in $15 just like everyone else, but please correct me if I'm wrong. another dumb question - for the ppl who do their part to bring in their own computers, are they obligated to stay so that others can "share" their machine? Just asking as I'm visualizing two possible extremes of people: 1) Extreme A: brings in his computer/mouse/kb, but is uncomfortable in sharing with strangers, so therefore comes in to do his matches, and then packs up and leaves. 2) Extreme B: brings in his gear, and cheerfully shares and cares to make the maximum possible contribution towards the event. ...and then every person who fits in shades of gray between the two. Any thoughts?
You can share computers, still you don't have to. We don't mind you share with others, since it will be bunch of 'friendly' 'strangers' to you.
And if u just want to spectate, you don't have to pay 15, but we'll make some food for you guys, so donations are welcome XD.
And in final day, (July 8th), we will have raffle for 150 bucks worth keyboard, you should come for it too :D (Semi final and Final will be held on that day)
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Jungho stop posting false information you korean goof lol. Keyboard is up for raffle on first day.
Just to clear things, a small donation of $2 for each day has worked out for everyone in the past. You don't have to make any donation if you are only there for a short period of time or not eating any food. We just think it's fair to ask for a small donation as we're willingly providing spectators 'free' food and drinks .
Also, no one is obligated to share their computers. Typically, we'll ask everyone who is comfortable sharing their computers at the start, and ppl without computers will go ask those people themselves. Last time, we had different groups of friends share between themselves for the most time and no one was left out alone without a computer.
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A quick update on this:
Cybergaming is providing us with 4 computers they use for their own tournaments. These are capable of playing sc2 and shouldn't have any problems at all.
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This sounds like fun. I will try to figure out if I have time to participate. I was wondering if the code B players play best of threes?
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Can someone set up some pro casters for the finals?
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On June 07 2011 23:30 Geos13 wrote: This sounds like fun. I will try to figure out if I have time to participate. I was wondering if the code B players play best of threes?
On day 1 of the qualification (Sat) everyone will be playing Bo1 round robin format either in groups of 6 or 8, and that's a total of 5 or 7 games played respectively.
The top players are ones with most win counts. Top 4 from code A will play with top 4 from code B (probably a double elimination) giving 4 players seeded to the next day which will be a double elimination Bo3 Winners bracket and Bo1 Losers bracket.
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On June 08 2011 11:06 adrenaLinG wrote: Can someone set up some pro casters for the finals?
Ascend TV, Cricket SC and Basement Cat will be casting our games. Still in the process of selecting casters that would come in person on July 8th (Basement Cat is one of the live casters who casted UBC Cup 1 with us).
If you know of any pros that would be interested in casting IN PERSON on July 8th, spread the word for us! :D Thanks
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Just sent a money request to all the registrants, sorry if I spammed a couple of people, PayPal is hard to work with -_-
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How are the top 4 players decided in Code A and Code B?
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so if i come in person, will there be a computer available for me to use? theres no online stuff like season 1 right? idk if ill go tho im so rusty and outta shape at this game x.x
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On June 13 2011 06:09 Vektorique wrote: How are the top 4 players decided in Code A and Code B? Top 4 will be decided by group play; 8 (4 from A and 4 from B) people with the best record will advance and play each other in a bo3, to finally decide the top 4 moving on to the second day.
On June 13 2011 15:56 Raigeki wrote: so if i come in person, will there be a computer available for me to use? theres no online stuff like season 1 right? idk if ill go tho im so rusty and outta shape at this game x.x Like it is said in the OP, there will be 4 computers provided by cybergaming, along with a few provided our execs. At this point in time, you will probably be able to use a computer all by yourself, but you may end up having to share that computer if necessary.
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I meant in either Code A or Code B, how are the top players decided if certain players in different groups have the same overall record?
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It depends on how many people show up, but this is probably the most likely scenario:
There are 2 groups of 8 people in Code B, and they play through the group stages. In one group, someone finishes 7-0 and another finishes 6-1, while in another group, 2 people finish with the same results.
So you have 2 people with 7-0 records, they are ranked 1-2, and 2 people with 6-1, they are ranked 3-4.
In the end, the 2 people with 7-0 records will be playing the 3-4th guys from Code A, and 2 people with 6-1 records will play 1-2nd guys from Code A.
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After buying my computer parts from NCIX for the last like decade this makes me so happy they are sponsoring a SC2 tournament, I LOVE NCIX even more now!
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So the top 4 from Code A and Code B are effectively another group and they play each other? And also, how is the top player of either Code A or B decided? Is it based on the best record, etc. or do the top 4 battle it out?
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sounds like fun, Byoc is a pain but ill manage it tho somehow.
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On June 14 2011 09:44 Vektorique wrote: So the top 4 from Code A and Code B are effectively another group and they play each other? And also, how is the top player of either Code A or B decided? Is it based on the best record, etc. or do the top 4 battle it out? The top 4 will will battle it out in a bo3
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So how are maps determined? Is it losers pick? If so, what map will be used in Bo1 matches?
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any1 know how much parking is at UBC? ild love to come if it isn't too pricey. And to all the ppl who goes to SFU, we should start a club or organize a community for nxt semester
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On June 15 2011 08:15 Zoraque wrote:any1 know how much parking is at UBC? ild love to come if it isn't too pricey. And to all the ppl who goes to SFU, we should start a club or organize a community for nxt semester 
It's 15 dollar per day I think ? I prefer bus to UBC, or just park at somewhere park near UBC and bus to UBC.
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i just signed up for code A, gusgriswald .895
anyone feel free to add me on bnet if you want to do customs on the map pool. i havent played any of them yet !
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On June 15 2011 03:34 Vektorique wrote: So how are maps determined? Is it losers pick? If so, what map will be used in Bo1 matches? We will probably do what we did last year: players eliminate maps one by one until one is left. Then losers will choose the next map.
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i registered, but i dont have a computer to bring, am i allowed to borrow someone's computer during the event?
i signed up for Code B (Silver League)
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what do u mean by "You will be placed in groups of 6 or 8 based on your ranking on July 1."
what do u mean by ranking? do u check our profile or something?
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what do u mean by "You will be placed in groups of 6 or 8 based on your ranking on July 1." what do u mean by ranking? do u check our profile or something? I believe it is referring to your points in ladder via sc2ranks.com
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First place prize go directly to col.Stalife, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
I sincerely hope someone shows up to challenge him, too far away for me though, sadly. =(
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This is excellent! I head back to school come September, I hope tourneys are still going on! Good luck with the event!
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On June 08 2011 12:45 Puporing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 11:06 adrenaLinG wrote: Can someone set up some pro casters for the finals? Ascend TV, Cricket SC and Basement Cat will be casting our games. Still in the process of selecting casters that would come in person on July 8th (Basement Cat is one of the live casters who casted UBC Cup 1 with us). If you know of any pros that would be interested in casting IN PERSON on July 8th, spread the word for us! :D Thanks I was at the first UBC Cup and BasementCat didn't cast at all...
On June 21 2011 03:36 gensulitor wrote: First place prize go directly to col.Stalife, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
I sincerely hope someone shows up to challenge him, too far away for me though, sadly. =(
maybe drewbie will show up
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On June 19 2011 10:18 seupac wrote: i just signed up for code A, gusgriswald .895
anyone feel free to add me on bnet if you want to do customs on the map pool. i havent played any of them yet !
What race do you play/what league are you?
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On June 20 2011 06:00 kevinkillyou wrote:i registered, but i dont have a computer to bring, am i allowed to borrow someone's computer during the event? i signed up for Code B  (Silver League) Yes, there will be some computers for everyone to share. Hopefully we'll have enough.
And yes, I've been tracking everyone's ladder records so these will be used to initially seed you on the first day. So if you haven't been placed yet, make sure you are placed in a league before the tournament.
and @adrenalinG, BasementCat was there and he took turns casting with other people, and you might not have been there for his game.
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Go Warden!!! Goodluck everyone.
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Hey guys,
We're recruiting volunteers for the event, if you're interested in helping out, check out the details on this form here: http://tinyurl.com/5vozu7e
Thanks in advance
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Oh god, the raffle items are total boss-mode
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Volunteers acquired, final meetings about stuff, casters tomorrow, food tomorrow/wednesday, electronics acquired from lowermainLAN/Lancouver http://www.lowermainlan.com/group/ etc
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Hey the raffle stuff looks great but I didn't see any information on how to pay in advance. Maybe I just missed it? I want a chance to win that sweet keyboard. Thanks.
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On June 28 2011 15:42 Geos13 wrote: Hey the raffle stuff looks great but I didn't see any information on how to pay in advance. Maybe I just missed it? I want a chance to win that sweet keyboard. Thanks.
If you registered, our staff will send you paypal payment request to your e-mail. or you can contact our execs to pay in person.
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On June 29 2011 01:45 tQWannaBe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 15:42 Geos13 wrote: Hey the raffle stuff looks great but I didn't see any information on how to pay in advance. Maybe I just missed it? I want a chance to win that sweet keyboard. Thanks. If you registered, our staff will send you paypal payment request to your e-mail. or you can contact our execs to pay in person. Hi, I'm supposed to be sending out these emails, since I don't know how to use automated technology. I just sent you a paypal link, and for those registering last minute before Jun 30, I'll try to give everyone a chance to pay.
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On June 29 2011 13:46 CanucksJC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 01:45 tQWannaBe wrote:On June 28 2011 15:42 Geos13 wrote: Hey the raffle stuff looks great but I didn't see any information on how to pay in advance. Maybe I just missed it? I want a chance to win that sweet keyboard. Thanks. If you registered, our staff will send you paypal payment request to your e-mail. or you can contact our execs to pay in person. Hi, I'm supposed to be sending out these emails, since I don't know how to use automated technology. I just sent you a paypal link, and for those registering last minute before Jun 30, I'll try to give everyone a chance to pay.
Being UBC Sc2 Club exec is suffering ;_;
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On June 30 2011 09:13 Entropic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 13:46 CanucksJC wrote:On June 29 2011 01:45 tQWannaBe wrote:On June 28 2011 15:42 Geos13 wrote: Hey the raffle stuff looks great but I didn't see any information on how to pay in advance. Maybe I just missed it? I want a chance to win that sweet keyboard. Thanks. If you registered, our staff will send you paypal payment request to your e-mail. or you can contact our execs to pay in person. Hi, I'm supposed to be sending out these emails, since I don't know how to use automated technology. I just sent you a paypal link, and for those registering last minute before Jun 30, I'll try to give everyone a chance to pay. Being UBC Sc2 Club exec is suffering ;_;
We were a bit ambitious but hoping this will be a great event for everyone!!
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LEAVING NOW see ya'll there
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leaving now. maybe 5~10 minutes late !
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Hi I'm AdrenaLinG I'll beat the two hardest guys in my group but won't make it out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sorry guys, I cannot attend to the tournament tmr =[, have some personal problems to deal with, gl to the rest of the participants on day 2 and also on friday!
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got third in my group and fourth and sixth made it out? What happened to only playing six matches on day one?
edit : And one of my matches against zandrel didn't get reported was 5-2.
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Dauntless and LojiQaen made it out as first and second because they were 5-1 and 5-1 in their last 6.
Even though Fams didn't get to play his full 6 games, he was 4-1 and he got the tie breaker since he got the same number of win in less games.
It was a tie between you and SionN, but you didn't play any games against the top 2, whereas SionN was 1-1 against them, giving him more 'points' overall.
We stayed 3 hours after everything was done and I didn't get home until 11PM to break the ties. We used the same repetitive system to break the ties and was reviewed at least twice. And we can't really be responsible for the games you didn't get reported
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Ok that's fine, but i'm just saying the format was pretty bad. Had no idea what was going on for so long, in a group stage you have to play everyone in your group. Not 6 random dudes.
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Yah, it was definitely not the most organized structure, but we just wanted to experiment with the group stage round robin since some people didn't want to play 2 games and be knocked out
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On July 03 2011 13:08 Cedstick wrote: Hi I'm AdrenaLinG I'll beat the two hardest guys in my group but won't make it out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no im adrenaling i beat the two hardest guys in my group so i can sleep in the actual tournament and get disqualified XD
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Thanks UBCSC Club for organizing this amazing event. I think the substantial prize for the non Masters/GM leagues made it so everyone had something to play for.
See y'all at the finals!
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Do we have any more post about final day yet ??
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On July 06 2011 07:07 tQWannaBe wrote: Do we have any more post about final day yet ??
James should make one After I gather all the intros from players..
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On July 05 2011 13:38 Entropic wrote: Thanks UBCSC Club for organizing this amazing event. I think the substantial prize for the non Masters/GM leagues made it so everyone had something to play for.
See y'all at the finals!
thanks ubcsc, this was a lot of fun ! i was out of town on saturday so i couldnt enter, but i came back early to cheer my friend on on sunday and it was really worth it. anyone in the area should come out and watch the finals, the projector quality for the casted games is really good and the people are friendly.
On July 06 2011 07:07 tQWannaBe wrote: Do we have any more post about final day yet ??
you got robbed man almost winning that game without even landing your 3rd was amazing to watch though haha
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Results: + Show Spoiler +A terran player named ValiditySAGA. I forget the specifics but a protoss named Hasu got second, Firezerg placed third and the Terran Warden got fourth.
The tournament was great and I hope to have time to participate in any tournaments during the school year. Thanks for organizing the event!
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I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 03:51 D_K_night wrote: I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously.
I don't even... I'm really interested to see you take only a few other University students with jobs on the side and with little to no budget to organize a tournament to this scale and succeed in just a few short months. The UBC Starcraft club isn't a corporation like the GSL or NASL. It's also shocking how much you overestimate the organizer's ability to control players; they need to take their time to adjust their settings and whatever they need to do to prepare. To have every single match have a referee in them is just absurd. It's only a handful of people organizing the thing.
Also to make it to have people that bring their own computer be the only ones to play is just idiotic. This is a sponsored tournament where they wanted to see numbers in both players and spectators. Why would they enforce ONLY BYOC just to simplify things a little bit at the cost of a lot of solid players?
Also, what are your credentials? Why do you get the authority to say what a tournament should and shouldn't look like? If you can do what you expect with the same resources the UBC SC Club had, I'd be impressed.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 03:51 D_K_night wrote: I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously.
Hey D_K_night I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to let us know about all of your feedback. You obviously care alot about e-sports in general. Many of the things you have mentioned we were aware of already, however the fact that you managed to summarize them so concisely is impressive. It is true, we are understaffed, and so the event was not the best it could possibly have been.
On that note, I would like to extend to you an opportunity to help mold that which you care about so much. Would you like to work together with the UBC Starcraft Club on future events to help avoid future occurrences of these improvements you mentioned? How might I go about contacting you for future events?
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I would like to take the time and clarify that this event and the club was created because we the organizers wanted to bring the community together. The event gives the chance for players to meet each other in person and it's especially rewarding to see the local celebrities come out to play. We've considered the option of doing it online (which would make it much easier for us), but decided that it would defeat the purpose we had in mind.
I would also like to ask that you take into consideration that we're doing this solely out of self interest and our own time and that we've never been professionally trained to do events like this before. We appreciate your comments and they would help make things run better in the future, and I'm certain that the event would be much more organized with more staff.
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I think most of the problems with D_K_nights arguments are pretty self evident so I won't bother commenting on them but seeing the negativity made me want to thank the UBC SC2 club again for the excellent event. I have helped organize student run events in the past and can say your club did a great job running the event and overcoming the few minor issues that did crop up. Thanks!
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you mad bro DK?
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 03:51 D_K_night wrote: I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously. Wow you really like taking attendance and disqualifying people.
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On July 13 2011 05:35 Wiiaboo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 03:51 D_K_night wrote: I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously. Hey D_K_night I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to let us know about all of your feedback. You obviously care alot about e-sports in general. Many of the things you have mentioned we were aware of already, however the fact that you managed to summarize them so concisely is impressive. It is true, we are understaffed, and so the event was not the best it could possibly have been. On that note, I would like to extend to you an opportunity to help mold that which you care about so much. Would you like to work together with the UBC Starcraft Club on future events to help avoid future occurrences of these improvements you mentioned? How might I go about contacting you for future events?
Yes I would love to help out. When is the next UBC Starcraft tourney?
*EDIT Willaboo let's PM each other and put some ideas together.
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On July 13 2011 04:25 Menkt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 03:51 D_K_night wrote: I'll talk about what went wrong, and what could be done to make things right for the next tourney.
#1) The on-stage presentation was so-so, thanking the sponsors, talking a little bit about the game, but presentation could have been cut shorter at least 10 minutes, going on and on without a specific agenda. We don't need to hear all the stuff about how so-and-so discovered Starcraft. Looking around me the audience and players were itching to hurry up and just get this tourney going. The whole LAN spiel was completely groan-worthy, guys you know better than that. SC2 doesn't support LAN - why even suggest that it does?
Here's a something which killed the credibility of the presenters. You can never make make mistakes where: Person A says something, then suddenly Person B goes "oh um, actually it's this". Guys, you didn't have all your ducks in a row. Practice. Rehearse your presentation as a group. You're university students from UBC, you know better.
#2) Brackets of Code S, A, and so on. The worst part of this was leaving things up to the players to organize their own matches. Lack of structure causes things to fall apart. It should have been at the very minimum, arranged in terms of Player A vs B, timelines to play the match, timelines to setup your computer, if you those are not met - it's an autoloss, walk-over, etc.
Basically it was "Oh, everyone in Code X just gather in this chat room, and decides amongst yourselves who plays who". It was a shock for me to discover that there was no structure whatsoever on who was going to be paired up against who.
#3) Internet access. One of the most basic requirements of the tourney, is a simple and straightforward method of connecting. So UBC requires a username/password to access their wifi, but why was ethernet only provided in just one room? And then there was the fateful outage where everyone's connection was killed.
#4) Vetoing of maps. Way too much loose control of the event. Just having the players repeatedly veto each alternating map until only one is left, is an enormous time-waster and was extremely clumsy for all concerned to do. AGAIN - you're the organizers. Take control. State clear, concise, strong rules, eg "You're playing on these maps in order, and you may veto only 1 each".
#5) BYOC. This needs to be stated very clearly and concisely, and it wasn't. If this is a "Bring Your Own Computer" event - then you enforce that. No ifs, ands, or buts. You don't make a concession and say "oh, and here's 4(?) or 7(?) shared computers for those who don't have laptops or can't bring their desktop PC". And what happened to the 7 shared PC's? More like, there were only 4. Each organizer had a different take on how these PC's were to be used. You really can't do that. I should be able to get the same answer from every organizer, regardless of who I talk to.
If you're going to be providing shared PC's, at the very base minimum, the following should have been done, and it was shocking to me that it wasn't:
1) Tally up a list of who's bringing a computer/laptop 2) Tally up who isn't, and needs to use one of the shared machines 3) Tailor the player schedule based on who needs to use a shared machine
When I arrived at the reception, I was expecting to be asked "did you bring your own computer" and was shocked when the question was never asked. Also the way people just leapt at the shared PC's and quite frankly - weren't interested in sharing. What's the point?
You, the organizers - are supposed to run the show and run with an iron fist, the list of people who would use the shared PC's - at what times, on which matches, then get OFF the PC and make way for the next person. The entire thing struck me as "too nice" and basically got overun by the players who weren't the slightest bit interested in sharing a shared PC.
With things the way they were - was there truly ever any reason why...people couldn't just play from home? Everyone was connecting on Battle.net after all. Why not just allow people to play from home?
Again - set the player schedule. Take attendance. Set deadlines on setting up your laptop/PC. You should be able to run multiple games simultaneously according to the schedule.
It should have looked at the minimum, like this:
1) Attendance taken, late players/no-shows crossed off the list with instant auto-loss. 2) Players arrive, setup their machines, headphones on, logged into Battle.net and confirmed that they are ready to GO. 3) Organizers setup the custom matches with Referee, and both players confirmed 4) Lunch break set @ noon, all players break for lunch 5) Matches resume according to schedule
Lessons learned here?
- Be organized. Everyone should be on the same page, whether it be presenting, running the matches, etc. Set an agenda/player schedule, and stick to it. - Be strong with the rules. No exceptions. - Set deadlines, timelines, etc. - COMMUNICATE and rehearse. Get things right on tourney date. Take it seriously. I don't even... I'm really interested to see you take only a few other University students with jobs on the side and with little to no budget to organize a tournament to this scale and succeed in just a few short months. The UBC Starcraft club isn't a corporation like the GSL or NASL. It's also shocking how much you overestimate the organizer's ability to control players; they need to take their time to adjust their settings and whatever they need to do to prepare. To have every single match have a referee in them is just absurd. It's only a handful of people organizing the thing. Also to make it to have people that bring their own computer be the only ones to play is just idiotic. This is a sponsored tournament where they wanted to see numbers in both players and spectators. Why would they enforce ONLY BYOC just to simplify things a little bit at the cost of a lot of solid players? Also, what are your credentials? Why do you get the authority to say what a tournament should and shouldn't look like? If you can do what you expect with the same resources the UBC SC Club had, I'd be impressed.
You can organize a tourney just fine on a shoestring budget. There's a difference between something with a lot of structure and organization, versus something that's simply too loose. All of the following info was known going in:
- How many players, what league they would be in - Event time frame
Based on just those two factors above, that alone gives you the groundwork for a schedule. How is defining timelines and adhering to a fixed schedule in any way controlling? It's not that hard. It's just project management, nothing super complicated here.
Every organized tourney has all the necessary prerequisites in place:
- confirmation of player arrival - X amount of time given to player to setup his gear - think about all the pro tourneys that give you only 15 minutes to setup your mouse/keyboard. Let's be more generous and allot 30 minutes to set everything up per player. That simply means the players need to arrive 30 minutes ahead of time - build that into the project plan. Inform the players/organizers. Keep everyone up to date.
Were you actually there at the event? Did you see what happened with the few shared PC's and how that worked out? What about the room where all the Desktop PC's were setup? Not really a "spectator" scene, was it?
How about this. PM me, and we'll take this offline. You come forward with your ideas on how things could be better, and I'll come forward with mine. Let's make a call to each other, and you can judge for yourself, my "qualifications".
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Having been to both events, the tournaments were ran fine imo. Think the majority would agree. Looking forward to the next one (I will try to participate. Hopefully no schedule conflicts)
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IMO I thought the tournament ran great. I didn't get to watch the Finals but the the 2 qualifying days were just fine. A few things can be worked on to smoothen things out and I am sure they will get addressed. With running events, it get's better with feedback and experience so I cannot wait for the next one.
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This tournament was obscenely awesome and well worth the trip over from the island. I love you james.
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