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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 05:04:49
December 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#1381
On December 08 2011 14:03 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why

is it possible to fast expand and build an army of 3/3 thors?

jsut think of WC3 as PvP before the patch

Calling War3 PvP is such an insult. Please don't say that again. =__=

It is so much more complicated than that.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
December 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#1382
This reskinned version of Tal'darim altar is really messing with my head.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#1383
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


because you will die if you try that against a good player, he will see what you're doing and kill you.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Stamper
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany148 Posts
December 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#1384
On December 08 2011 14:03 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 13:56 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:54 Shinta) wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:45 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:44 Shinta) wrote:
lol what the heck is up with you people? WCG STARTS WITH A GROUP STAGE, THEN ENDS WITH A BRACKET.

Learn the most basic rules (such as FORMAT) before you start complaining about bo1 and shit.

WCG already has created such awesome games. Can't believe how exciting it's been so far. Even with very low production value, and with Ongamenet doing the streaming (which means relatively low quality, brood war looking stream quality), this is extremely enjoyable.

A few hours in and already I think this is yet again another great tournament done by WCG.


Are you a time traveler from 2003?

Yes, I'm a SC2 enthusiast from 2003. I must be the smartest, most advanced, and coolest person in the universe to not only understand how to read a thread, not only how to watch games, NOT ONLY how and why WCG is being played out the way it is, but also to magically time travel.
Thank you for the compliment.

But from the looks of it, you're stuck in 2003, whereas people with analytical skills are watching with me here in 2011.


I was referring to you thinking this is good enough quality video for a major tournament when it's the same video quality we were getting during WCG2003. And before you say beggars can't be choosers, I'd gladly pay for a good stream rather than an ad-assisted shit stream

You're spoiled by the extremely high quality of modern day sc2 streams... People with a lot of money can afford to have really good streams.
Even disregarding that though, you do realize that SC:BW streams look like this even now in 2011 right? Yes, I am very very certain that this is "good enough" video quality for a major tournament.

WCG has become huge, and is regarded as huge today because of the amazing games they have been able to host over the years, not because they had tons of money or cutting edge technology. WCG is awesome today, because of the amazing games they are hosting, not because they have tons of money or cutting edge technology.


Money is certainly not the reason for the horrible looking main stage stream. The side stage stream looks amazing.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
December 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#1385
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


Humans can fast expand quite easily with militia... It was very common many years ago when I followed wc3, don't know about now :p

However, you can't really sit and defend. You need to be able to go out on the map and farm the neutral units. If you don't build an army you'll never have any map control and you'll get out farmed.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1386
it saids on the schedule that after this LoL/counterstrike there will be 2 SC2 games broadcasted anyone know what games are going to be broadcasted?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1387
On December 08 2011 14:04 terialk wrote:
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On December 08 2011 14:01 swordboy wrote:
F91 wins against Sen, according to the Facebook of Gamabears.


What? WHAT? DDDD: Sad I couldn't see what happened


Those guys have always been evenly matched throughout the years. At least we will get the replays eventually. D=
alewind
Profile Joined April 2010
United States4 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1388
For those that still don't know, oGsSK is streaming sc2 games in HD over here : http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SC2 Off Stage

right now is MVP vs Deny
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1389
On December 08 2011 14:01 swordboy wrote:
F91 wins against Sen, according to the Facebook of Gamabears.

Oh shit, I'm worried for mOOnGLaDe...
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1390
On December 08 2011 14:03 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


WCIII doesn't really work that way.


true, if you do that, you lose mapcontrol. means, the opponent will have 5-5 heros and expand then, the game is pretty much over from that point
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
yOiyuK
Profile Joined October 2011
United States108 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1391
On December 08 2011 14:00 zestzorb wrote:
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On December 08 2011 13:59 JayJay_90 wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:58 yOiyuK wrote:
So, what is considered the most "OP" unit in WC3? I remember the necromancer being really strong, gryphons, frost wyrm.

Blademaster

It used to be DH, but yeah BM has been all the rage for a while.


Okay, so it seems pratically everyone agrees it is blademaster. Makes sense, when I used to play WC3 that unit annoyed me the most.

Best undead hero?
I love ghost notes, baby.
requieml
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada72 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1392
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


because at 50 food or below u mine the most efficiently, 10 per pop. at 70+, u only mine 4 per pop while 10 gets taken away from ur mine so ur mining even slower than 1base
Ryung/Bomber/MMA Fighting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1393
On December 08 2011 14:05 Forikorder wrote:
it saids on the schedule that after this LoL/counterstrike there will be 2 SC2 games broadcasted anyone know what games are going to be broadcasted?


(T)Kas vs (Z)XiGua and (Z)Sen vs (Z)JacK
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Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#1394
Lava DArim ALtar. Didnt recognize it at first
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 08 2011 05:06 GMT
#1395
On December 08 2011 14:04 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 14:03 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why

is it possible to fast expand and build an army of 3/3 thors?

jsut think of WC3 as PvP before the patch

Calling War3 PvP is such an insult. Please don't say that again. =__=

It is so much more complicated than that.

its like taking PvP and TvT and smashing them together

better?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 08 2011 05:06 GMT
#1396
On December 08 2011 14:05 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 14:03 StarStruck wrote:
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


WCIII doesn't really work that way.


true, if you do that, you lose mapcontrol. means, the opponent will have 5-5 heros and expand then, the game is pretty much over from that point

To be fair, when playing against Orc, you lose map control the moment his BM gets out of the altar.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
December 08 2011 05:06 GMT
#1397
On December 08 2011 14:03 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 13:56 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:54 Shinta) wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:45 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:44 Shinta) wrote:
lol what the heck is up with you people? WCG STARTS WITH A GROUP STAGE, THEN ENDS WITH A BRACKET.

Learn the most basic rules (such as FORMAT) before you start complaining about bo1 and shit.

WCG already has created such awesome games. Can't believe how exciting it's been so far. Even with very low production value, and with Ongamenet doing the streaming (which means relatively low quality, brood war looking stream quality), this is extremely enjoyable.

A few hours in and already I think this is yet again another great tournament done by WCG.


Are you a time traveler from 2003?

Yes, I'm a SC2 enthusiast from 2003. I must be the smartest, most advanced, and coolest person in the universe to not only understand how to read a thread, not only how to watch games, NOT ONLY how and why WCG is being played out the way it is, but also to magically time travel.
Thank you for the compliment.

But from the looks of it, you're stuck in 2003, whereas people with analytical skills are watching with me here in 2011.


I was referring to you thinking this is good enough quality video for a major tournament when it's the same video quality we were getting during WCG2003. And before you say beggars can't be choosers, I'd gladly pay for a good stream rather than an ad-assisted shit stream

You're spoiled by the extremely high quality of modern day sc2 streams... People with a lot of money can afford to have really good streams.
Even disregarding that though, you do realize that SC:BW streams look like this even now in 2011 right? Yes, I am very very certain that this is "good enough" video quality for a major tournament.

WCG has become huge, and is regarded as huge today because of the amazing games they have been able to host over the years, not because they had tons of money or cutting edge technology. WCG is awesome today, because of the amazing games they are hosting, not because they have tons of money or cutting edge technology.


I think you mean WCG became huge, it hasn't been an amazing tournament for a very long time and their inability to actually bring us the tournament in a reasonable broadcast only compounds this. Take off the rose-tinted glasses mate. WCG is a dying dinosaur of a tournament
stu >)
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#1398
On December 08 2011 14:03 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 13:56 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:54 Shinta) wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:45 greatZERG wrote:
On December 08 2011 13:44 Shinta) wrote:
lol what the heck is up with you people? WCG STARTS WITH A GROUP STAGE, THEN ENDS WITH A BRACKET.

Learn the most basic rules (such as FORMAT) before you start complaining about bo1 and shit.

WCG already has created such awesome games. Can't believe how exciting it's been so far. Even with very low production value, and with Ongamenet doing the streaming (which means relatively low quality, brood war looking stream quality), this is extremely enjoyable.

A few hours in and already I think this is yet again another great tournament done by WCG.


Are you a time traveler from 2003?

Yes, I'm a SC2 enthusiast from 2003. I must be the smartest, most advanced, and coolest person in the universe to not only understand how to read a thread, not only how to watch games, NOT ONLY how and why WCG is being played out the way it is, but also to magically time travel.
Thank you for the compliment.

But from the looks of it, you're stuck in 2003, whereas people with analytical skills are watching with me here in 2011.


I was referring to you thinking this is good enough quality video for a major tournament when it's the same video quality we were getting during WCG2003. And before you say beggars can't be choosers, I'd gladly pay for a good stream rather than an ad-assisted shit stream

You're spoiled by the extremely high quality of modern day sc2 streams... People with a lot of money can afford to have really good streams.
Even disregarding that though, you do realize that SC:BW streams look like this even now in 2011 right? Yes, I am very very certain that this is "good enough" video quality for a major tournament.

WCG has become huge, and is regarded as huge today because of the amazing games they have been able to host over the years, not because they had tons of money or cutting edge technology. WCG is awesome today, because of the amazing games they are hosting, not because they have tons of money or cutting edge technology.

BW stream still looks like this because the aspect ratio and res on the game itself means it looks good even on this stream quality. Modern games don't. Which is also why WC3 looks better than SC2 on these streams

I like the production and everything, but you have to face reality, for such a huge tournament, WCG's technology is pretty ancient.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#1399
This Deny guy is doing far better than the other people so far.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#1400
On December 08 2011 14:06 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 14:05 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 08 2011 14:03 StarStruck wrote:
On December 08 2011 14:02 nokz88 wrote:
A complete wc3 noob question:
Isn't it possible to go for a economic build instead of 1 base? Like, fast expo into 90 food army of 3/3 taurens and catapults? I've never seen such a game and I always wondered why


WCIII doesn't really work that way.


true, if you do that, you lose mapcontrol. means, the opponent will have 5-5 heros and expand then, the game is pretty much over from that point

To be fair, when playing against Orc, you lose map control the moment his BM gets out of the altar.


ha ha ha ;D

Sad because it's true. o;
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