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s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 10 2011 07:41 GMT
#7321
On December 10 2011 16:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

Being even in supply to a mech player means you're behind. MVP also had his 3rd earlier.


You guys are missing the point, he was 10 SCVs down and obviously behind from the beginning. Still, he was able to catch up in SCV count at some point and have roughly the same army size..
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
December 10 2011 07:41 GMT
#7322
On December 10 2011 16:32 Mioraka wrote:
Last Zerg to beat MVP is leenock......meh, it will be hard for xigua to take him down.

But one can always dream :D

Revenge for Sky!


You mean last week?
;D

I get what you meant, but Xigau has a good reference on what MvP does under pressure and how he works from both MLG and GSL .
If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
Rayjin
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany205 Posts
December 10 2011 07:42 GMT
#7323
As i thought, MVP vs XiGua finals =)

I think XiGua got a realy nice chance to win this! Would be awesome to see him in the Blizzard Cup too!

Go Go China, Go Go XiGua! :-)
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
December 10 2011 07:43 GMT
#7324
Does anyone know if/when the 3rd/4th place match will be played?
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
December 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#7325
Is the final tonight?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:44:56
December 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#7326
On December 10 2011 16:39 filippo84 wrote:
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On December 10 2011 16:34 GTR wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]



Check out Steven Bradury win in 2002 Olympics - Short track speed skating. (that is the same race you re referring to)


I saw all those races and from the sound of it GTR might have seen that one too.

Lots of speed skating fans? o.O or just Olympic fans?
GeneralissimoNero
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States236 Posts
December 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#7327
I wanna watch this final so bad?
I will cheer for a Slayers Terran over any other player.
madmax64
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
December 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#7328
lol second stage has a SCII show match playing for a laptop and it runs out of batteries in the first minute.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 10 2011 07:45 GMT
#7329
On December 10 2011 16:35 Ansalem wrote:
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On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


I personally am a very busy person. I just spend free time watching and reading about SC2. Part of someone's job as a caster should involve doing research on the players who they will be casting, not just casting the games. That way if they choose not to spend their leisure time reading up, they will still not make clueless statements like Kas as a newcomer or XiGua as an unknown. Some people do a very good job at this. I know d.Apollo often makes extensive note sheets on players before tournaments. I don't mean to hate on Tasteless because I do enjoy his casting. He is very entertaining. He could just be a little more informed as well.

you realize they are more busy than you? Do you travel between various countries 2-5 times a month casting games from hundreds of players? People need to cut them a break. Personally I think the company doing the show should have a bio for each player including major results and recent results. Do you think pro sports broadcasters do all their research? There are so many times I have seen a call up in the NHL that no one knows anything about. Shit happens.
DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:48:50
December 10 2011 07:46 GMT
#7330
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Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 07:46 GMT
#7331
On December 10 2011 16:36 FakeDeath wrote:
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On December 10 2011 16:31 Suohhen wrote:
I love Tasteosis but if anything the time the spend in Korea has caused them to embrace cheese to heavily. Of course you don't want to criticize play as a caster because it only hurts the growth of the sport, but they need to stop saying "crushing" or "the most amazing play I've seen out of such and such." Cheese is a part of the game, but of course Korean players are better at it because it's standard on the Korean ladders and being proficient at it is a skill you should have, but no way does it mean a player is great that they can pull off the multitasking and micro required to be really good at it. Of course MVP is a fantastic player and has the other skills required in the game, and congrats on getting to the finals. This is a complaint about Tasteosis and has nothing to do with MVP. It just gets me thinking back to the Fin game they cast the other day.


The fark? They are hyping up the show and Tastosis are a bit biased for MVP and Nestea.There is always biaseness in games.They are currently the best duo caster in SC2 and there are obviously flaws but no one is perfect okay.


Of course no one is perfect. I didn't say they are bad, I said I would prefer if they wouldn't rave about how awesome and dominant a player is when they pull off cheese, and this has nothing to do with a certain player, they do it all the time and in fact these games were a much more subdued and tolerable case. When they cast the Fin game and were saying he looks like the best in the world and they want him to face MVP in the GSL finals next month. Usually this backfires for them with players such as Clide which is ok for that to happen a few times but eventually people will not respect what they say.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:46 GMT
#7332
On December 10 2011 16:45 mrtomjones wrote:
Do you think pro sports broadcasters do all their research? There are so many times I have seen a call up in the NHL that no one knows anything about. Shit happens.


Actually they have a whole team behind them and yes they do have all that info. o_O

That's the thing. This is still amateur work and they don't have that luxury as I pointed out earlier. One day maybe.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 07:47 GMT
#7333
On December 10 2011 16:45 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:35 Ansalem wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


I personally am a very busy person. I just spend free time watching and reading about SC2. Part of someone's job as a caster should involve doing research on the players who they will be casting, not just casting the games. That way if they choose not to spend their leisure time reading up, they will still not make clueless statements like Kas as a newcomer or XiGua as an unknown. Some people do a very good job at this. I know d.Apollo often makes extensive note sheets on players before tournaments. I don't mean to hate on Tasteless because I do enjoy his casting. He is very entertaining. He could just be a little more informed as well.

you realize they are more busy than you? Do you travel between various countries 2-5 times a month casting games from hundreds of players? People need to cut them a break. Personally I think the company doing the show should have a bio for each player including major results and recent results. Do you think pro sports broadcasters do all their research? There are so many times I have seen a call up in the NHL that no one knows anything about. Shit happens.

You have no idea how busy the other poster is. He might have multiple shifts or whatever.

I think he's right by saying informing themselves about the SC2 global scene is part of their job. Not even something to catch up on while resting, it's their job.
kenshin096
Profile Joined December 2011
China16 Posts
December 10 2011 07:47 GMT
#7334
Xigua has already qualified Blizzard Cup .....
Now 12:0 for xigua, 14:0 plz.....
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 10 2011 07:48 GMT
#7335
On December 10 2011 16:46 DirtyCash wrote:
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if I am to assume that the order is the order of most improtant games there, can i really assume FIFA is the one they have in the "best" spot ending their tournament
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 07:48 GMT
#7336
On December 10 2011 16:47 kenshin096 wrote:
Xigua has already qualified Blizzard Cup .....
Now 12:0 for xigua, 14:0 plz.....

No he hasn't, if MVP wins the Blizzard Cup slot goes to Polt.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:48 GMT
#7337
On December 10 2011 16:47 kenshin096 wrote:
Xigua has already qualified Blizzard Cup .....
Now 12:0 for xigua, 14:0 plz.....


If MVP wins the spot goes to Polt though.
bellyfrog
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand72 Posts
December 10 2011 07:49 GMT
#7338
Is there some kind of broadcasting conflict for the SC1 matches? Because every time they come on the stream goes dead for me.
Rayjin
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany205 Posts
December 10 2011 07:50 GMT
#7339
On December 10 2011 16:47 kenshin096 wrote:
Xigua has already qualified Blizzard Cup .....
Now 12:0 for xigua, 14:0 plz.....


i thought Polt gets the last spot if MVP wins WCG?!
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 07:50 GMT
#7340
On December 10 2011 16:47 kenshin096 wrote:
Xigua has already qualified Blizzard Cup .....
Now 12:0 for xigua, 14:0 plz.....


You know he has been thirsting for this after what happened at Guangzhou where he only went because Loner couldn't and went out 0-3 in his group, and then couldn't go to Blizzcon because of Visa issues and was replaced by Loner. Now he is undefeated in this tourney and has the ultimate opportunity to make his name internationally tomorrow.
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