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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 07:33 GMT
#7301
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


Well to be fair I think its more exciting for both scenes to have a foreigner in the finals. Look how exciting the W3 finals was with the biased casters and all XD
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:33 GMT
#7302
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7303
On December 10 2011 16:30 nofacej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


This is bullshit. We're all following SC2 in our spare time. Their job is literally to follow and cast SC2. In terms of insight into player and tournament history the Code A casters are so much better than Tastosis. They really need to do more research. Or at least have someone providing them with intel as would be the case in other "sports".

If his job is to cast and follow SC2 don't you think they deserve their time off like you take time to watch sc2, or maybe you should constantly be working ?
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7304
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]
Commentator
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7305
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


That's awesome. OGN director knows how to bring up audience and players' emotions.
UglyTroLL
Profile Joined September 2011
12 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7306
Xigua! Beat MVP please
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7307
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


That is pretty funny when you put it like that... mkp was staring down the whole time tho obviously sad
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7308
On December 10 2011 16:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]


He's a fucking beast! :D
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:38:18
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7309
On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


I personally am a very busy person. I just spend free time watching and reading about SC2. Part of someone's job as a caster should involve doing research on the players who they will be casting, not just casting the games. That way if they choose not to spend their leisure time reading up, they will still not make clueless statements like Kas as a newcomer or XiGua as an unknown. Some people do a very good job at this. I know d.Apollo often makes extensive note sheets on players before tournaments. I don't mean to hate on Tasteless because I do enjoy his casting. He is very entertaining. He could just be a little more informed as well.
madmax64
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
December 10 2011 07:36 GMT
#7310
On December 10 2011 16:33 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


Well to be fair I think its more exciting for both scenes to have a foreigner in the finals. Look how exciting the W3 finals was with the biased casters and all XD



For me it was more of a look at the other Koreans showing their support for MVP, he is the last hope for them to maintain their dominance in WCG.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 10 2011 07:36 GMT
#7311
On December 10 2011 16:31 Suohhen wrote:
I love Tasteosis but if anything the time the spend in Korea has caused them to embrace cheese to heavily. Of course you don't want to criticize play as a caster because it only hurts the growth of the sport, but they need to stop saying "crushing" or "the most amazing play I've seen out of such and such." Cheese is a part of the game, but of course Korean players are better at it because it's standard on the Korean ladders and being proficient at it is a skill you should have, but no way does it mean a player is great that they can pull off the multitasking and micro required to be really good at it. Of course MVP is a fantastic player and has the other skills required in the game, and congrats on getting to the finals. This is a complaint about Tasteosis and has nothing to do with MVP. It just gets me thinking back to the Fin game they cast the other day.


The fark? They are hyping up the show and Tastosis are a bit biased for MVP and Nestea.There is always biaseness in games.They are currently the best duo caster in SC2 and there are obviously flaws but no one is perfect okay.
Play your best
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7312
It would help if they had data gatherers. Maybe one day some organizers will hire people to collect the raw data like every other 'sport.'
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7313
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7314
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

bio generally maxes supply much quicker than mech
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 07:38 GMT
#7315
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

Being even in supply to a mech player means you're behind. MVP also had his 3rd earlier.
filippo84
Profile Joined June 2011
1 Post
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7316
On December 10 2011 16:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]



Check out Steven Bradury win in 2002 Olympics - Short track speed skating. (that is the same race you re referring to)
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7317
I wish people would stop saying "no need to watch finals MVP is going to win."
Not enough people are noticing that XiGua went 6-0 in group stages and undefeated in brackets so far. Do I think MVP will win? Of course, but its silly to say the finals won't even be remotely close.
I will be rooting for XiGua, gotta root for my fellow chinese man
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7318
he also didnt "mess" up the elevator, he did it fine but mvp defended it well
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7319
On December 10 2011 16:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

Being even in supply to a mech player means you're behind. MVP also had his 3rd earlier.


This... :|
madmax64
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
December 10 2011 07:41 GMT
#7320
There is still another match of SCII being played on the second stage casted by Wolf and Rotterdam.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
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