• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:20
CET 18:20
KST 02:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League93
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? SC2 Power Rank: epic29 Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SCHNAIL now supports Remastered BW General Discussion Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Bot on ladder Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8018 users

WCG 2011 Grand Finals - Page 366

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 364 365 366 367 368 436 Next
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 07:33 GMT
#7301
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


Well to be fair I think its more exciting for both scenes to have a foreigner in the finals. Look how exciting the W3 finals was with the biased casters and all XD
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:33 GMT
#7302
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7303
On December 10 2011 16:30 nofacej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


This is bullshit. We're all following SC2 in our spare time. Their job is literally to follow and cast SC2. In terms of insight into player and tournament history the Code A casters are so much better than Tastosis. They really need to do more research. Or at least have someone providing them with intel as would be the case in other "sports".

If his job is to cast and follow SC2 don't you think they deserve their time off like you take time to watch sc2, or maybe you should constantly be working ?
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7304
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]
Commentator
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#7305
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


That's awesome. OGN director knows how to bring up audience and players' emotions.
UglyTroLL
Profile Joined September 2011
12 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7306
Xigua! Beat MVP please
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7307
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


That is pretty funny when you put it like that... mkp was staring down the whole time tho obviously sad
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7308
On December 10 2011 16:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]


He's a fucking beast! :D
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:38:18
December 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#7309
On December 10 2011 16:28 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:26 Ansalem wrote:
I know that the Chinese scene doesn't mix that much with Korea and the West, but even I know that XiGua is one of their biggest names, Tasteless...


He is way more busy then us. He barely watches tourneys he doesn't cast and doesn't have time to read TL much. I don't blame him at all for not knowing XiGua.


I personally am a very busy person. I just spend free time watching and reading about SC2. Part of someone's job as a caster should involve doing research on the players who they will be casting, not just casting the games. That way if they choose not to spend their leisure time reading up, they will still not make clueless statements like Kas as a newcomer or XiGua as an unknown. Some people do a very good job at this. I know d.Apollo often makes extensive note sheets on players before tournaments. I don't mean to hate on Tasteless because I do enjoy his casting. He is very entertaining. He could just be a little more informed as well.
madmax64
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
December 10 2011 07:36 GMT
#7310
On December 10 2011 16:33 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:31 FidoDido wrote:
LOL I love how they put the camera on supernova and MKP during the match, almost mocking them like "Look at these 2 noobs that shamed our country! MVP shows these 2 how it's done"


Well to be fair I think its more exciting for both scenes to have a foreigner in the finals. Look how exciting the W3 finals was with the biased casters and all XD



For me it was more of a look at the other Koreans showing their support for MVP, he is the last hope for them to maintain their dominance in WCG.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 10 2011 07:36 GMT
#7311
On December 10 2011 16:31 Suohhen wrote:
I love Tasteosis but if anything the time the spend in Korea has caused them to embrace cheese to heavily. Of course you don't want to criticize play as a caster because it only hurts the growth of the sport, but they need to stop saying "crushing" or "the most amazing play I've seen out of such and such." Cheese is a part of the game, but of course Korean players are better at it because it's standard on the Korean ladders and being proficient at it is a skill you should have, but no way does it mean a player is great that they can pull off the multitasking and micro required to be really good at it. Of course MVP is a fantastic player and has the other skills required in the game, and congrats on getting to the finals. This is a complaint about Tasteosis and has nothing to do with MVP. It just gets me thinking back to the Fin game they cast the other day.


The fark? They are hyping up the show and Tastosis are a bit biased for MVP and Nestea.There is always biaseness in games.They are currently the best duo caster in SC2 and there are obviously flaws but no one is perfect okay.
Play your best
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7312
It would help if they had data gatherers. Maybe one day some organizers will hire people to collect the raw data like every other 'sport.'
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7313
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
December 10 2011 07:37 GMT
#7314
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

bio generally maxes supply much quicker than mech
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 07:38 GMT
#7315
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

Being even in supply to a mech player means you're behind. MVP also had his 3rd earlier.
filippo84
Profile Joined June 2011
1 Post
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7316
On December 10 2011 16:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:33 StarStruck wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:32 InvalidID wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ice skating is fairly new in the women's division anyway.

they have good speed skaters though.


Their speed skating in fact almost caused an international Fiasco between the US and Korea, with the 2002 Olympics. The Korean athlete was ahead of the US athlete, but the Korean athlete was disqualified for blocking the US athlete. South Korea protested this, and lots of feelings were hurt.


Yeah I remember that man. I love speed skating. =)


apolo anton ohno =]



Check out Steven Bradury win in 2002 Olympics - Short track speed skating. (that is the same race you re referring to)
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7317
I wish people would stop saying "no need to watch finals MVP is going to win."
Not enough people are noticing that XiGua went 6-0 in group stages and undefeated in brackets so far. Do I think MVP will win? Of course, but its silly to say the finals won't even be remotely close.
I will be rooting for XiGua, gotta root for my fellow chinese man
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7318
he also didnt "mess" up the elevator, he did it fine but mvp defended it well
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 07:39 GMT
#7319
On December 10 2011 16:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:37 s4life wrote:
Kas macro is superb.. he actually was catching up in supply against MVP.. sad it never reached late mid game coz he messed up the elevator.

Being even in supply to a mech player means you're behind. MVP also had his 3rd earlier.


This... :|
madmax64
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
December 10 2011 07:41 GMT
#7320
There is still another match of SCII being played on the second stage casted by Wolf and Rotterdam.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
Prev 1 364 365 366 367 368 436 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
RO8 - Day 2
Laughngamez YouTube
IPSL
01:00
Ro24 Group A
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
Liquipedia
Epic.LAN
22:00
Epic.LAN 49 Playoffs Stage
epiclan50
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2445
BRAT_OK 86
SKillous 25
elazer 15
MindelVK 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3826
Shuttle 667
Soulkey 119
Mind 99
Dewaltoss 93
scan(afreeca) 61
Zeus 54
Classic 33
Rock 26
soO 20
[ Show more ]
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
Movie 11
Hm[arnc] 10
Sacsri 9
Shine 9
Dota 2
Gorgc13913
monkeys_forever393
febbydoto1
League of Legends
JimRising 258
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1518
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor278
Other Games
B2W.Neo874
Beastyqt594
mouzStarbuck216
ToD182
KnowMe178
ArmadaUGS101
QueenE91
Trikslyr37
Chillindude23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick364
ComeBackTV 312
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 36
• printf 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach92
• ChaeLyn 8
• Michael_bg 5
• FirePhoenix2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2350
League of Legends
• Nemesis3018
• Jankos2212
Other Games
• Shiphtur336
• imaqtpie127
Upcoming Events
OSC
20h 40m
Yamato Cup
21h 40m
IPSL
23h 40m
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
1d 5h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 18h
Ultimate Battle
1d 18h
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
2 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.