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s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#3061
On December 09 2011 04:47 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0


I see your point but I guess they could just invite less players or they could not just stream all the ganes and have players playing in the background. MLG has a whole open backet of IIRC 256 players and they don't stream every match. I'm sure WCG is capable of having stations that have players playing off stream. Anyways, so is Fenix still on IM?


It's not up to them to invite more or less players, and bracket system has never been in wcg until group stage is over. As for Fenix, yes he's still in IM and will play with SuperNova in main stage today after Morrow vs Huk.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 08 2011 20:26 GMT
#3062
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0

maybe they shouldnt ahve invited so many people then and focused on inviting good players instead of having so mcuh trash
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 08 2011 20:26 GMT
#3063
On December 09 2011 04:56 red4ce wrote:
Supernova NEEDS to get 1st place in his group. If he qualifies 2nd then he'll be matched up against MVP in the Ro16, and we all know how MVP vs Supernova always ends up. Fortunately SN's group is one of the easier ones so as long as he beats Fenix he should get 1st no problem.


Fenix could very well beat SuperNova, he's beaten TheSTC, Clide and other top terrans in televised matches, so it should be a very good game.
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
December 08 2011 20:32 GMT
#3064
My point is that not every match has to be streamed.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 08 2011 20:32 GMT
#3065
On December 09 2011 05:32 Shadow_Dog wrote:
My point is that not every match has to be streamed.


They are not streaming every match.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#3066
On December 09 2011 05:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0

maybe they shouldnt ahve invited so many people then and focused on inviting good players instead of having so mcuh trash


How is that even an argument to be made for bo1 being enough games when playing against 6 other players in a group.

And regardless, that is quite an ignorant statement when the idea of WCG is to invite people from as many countries as they can so that they can all be represented, especially since those players are qualifying and not being "invited" as you stated.
Mylkyjo
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia110 Posts
December 08 2011 20:40 GMT
#3067
mOOnGLaDe fighting!!!
_Mittens
Profile Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
December 08 2011 20:42 GMT
#3068
On December 09 2011 05:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0

maybe they shouldnt ahve invited so many people then and focused on inviting good players instead of having so mcuh trash

Because it is the WORLD Cyber Games. That's the whole idea. Guys from Argentina that would otherwise never get to play in these kinds of tournaments get to play, and beat Idra.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
December 08 2011 20:44 GMT
#3069
Gratz to Goody!! Hope his panzers roll this tournament!
BWVanguard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States38 Posts
December 08 2011 20:52 GMT
#3070
Wow, just noticed KT vs SKT will be on the main stage tonight. So sick!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
December 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#3071
On December 09 2011 05:52 BWVanguard wrote:
Wow, just noticed KT vs SKT will be on the main stage tonight. So sick!!


Yup, just like we saw match between CJ and Khan earlier today. There will be a match tomorrow too. Can't wait for KT vs SKT. ^_^
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#3072
On December 09 2011 05:42 _Mittens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 05:26 Forikorder wrote:
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0

maybe they shouldnt ahve invited so many people then and focused on inviting good players instead of having so mcuh trash

Because it is the WORLD Cyber Games. That's the whole idea. Guys from Argentina that would otherwise never get to play in these kinds of tournaments get to play, and beat Idra.

Capoch is like the cheese master tho, plus he's the only argentinian player ive heard of
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
voy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland348 Posts
December 08 2011 21:46 GMT
#3073
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Namibia FTW! ))))))
I'm a man with a dream. And I look good in jeans. graphic designer looking for freelance work.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 08 2011 21:51 GMT
#3074
Come on WERN! If he wins any matches at all, this legend is so getting a fanclub ^_^
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#3075
On December 09 2011 05:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:45 Nadarath wrote:
So many posts and still same discussion...
Guys would you really want Bo3 in groups of 7 (Seven!!) players in ? Worst case scenario - 21 matches in each group times 3 (Since Bo3) times 8 groups. 504 maps played worst case scenario - 336 maps played best case scenario - that is shitloads of time and effort from players.

It is reasonable to do Bo1 in such a large groups. It was not a problem for BW - just please get over it and start discussing actual games.

As for XiGua i think he is considered best SC2 player in China right now. So no surprise he won his group 6-0

maybe they shouldnt ahve invited so many people then and focused on inviting good players instead of having so mcuh trash


then it wouldnt be called WORLD CYBER GAMES.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 08 2011 22:00 GMT
#3076
sc2 to young/volatile for bo1? because thats what most is unknowingly implying

OR

maybe its just players fault?
Stork[gm]
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 08 2011 22:03 GMT
#3077
As an Australian: Fuck yeah Moonglade!

He always surprises me because, though I know he's a great player, he doesn't get around to any of the big tournaments nor have a team, so news on him is sparse. But then he comes out strongly in what I considered to be the group of death! =D
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
December 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#3078
Moonglade winning group? lolwut
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#3079
Idra should be able to handle cheese from "inferior" players solidly enough to come out of group stage even if cheesed on every single match. I don't know how the games were, but even without knowing, 3-3 just means he played bad, that's all.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 08 2011 22:05 GMT
#3080
On December 09 2011 04:41 Forikorder wrote:
if they get through there jsut doing what they should be doing and the msot credit theyll get is "despite a terrible system the good players still got through"


Why is it a terrible system? The actual GSL groups are Bo1 as well and here you get to play 6 instead of 2-3 matches.
If you lose 3 out of 6 matches, its not like you messed up only once.
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