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Games are going on, no caster talk in the LR thread please.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
May 15 2011 01:55 GMT
#241
People should watch Bomber (one of the BEST terrans in the world) vs white-ra. Bomber shows us how terran can stand a chance against protoss late game (in fact he shows that terran is not a bit underpowered against protoss in late game).

In the future, I expect a lot more of mass expand + mass drop -> suicide scvs -> powerful late game army before the protoss can muster up an army as strong. Also note that mules allow terran to sac scvs better.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:55 GMT
#242
On May 15 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:53 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine


3:00

reaper and bunker for goody

denied by machine


5:30

goody actually manages to finish the bunker

2 reapers now attacking the hatch
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
May 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#243
LOL reapers wrecking havoc
SooYoung-Noona!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 01:57:28
May 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#244
On May 15 2011 10:53 Tsuki.eu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:52 FliedLice wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:51 Tsuki.eu wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


Watch Kas vs. HasuObs in the TSL.



i watched, i mean after ur capped, not before that.


that's all the difference



you eventually get there, and there will be at least one big encounter.


+ Show Spoiler +
the thing is, vs Kas hasu didn't have a bazillion warpgates because kas came for his expos with suicidal marauders and drops, he was in his face all game long, brat_ok was way too passive, so in the late game encounters hasu could throw away 20 units because he was able to warp in 30 new ones afterwards with his warpgates and his 5k/2,5k resources


that's my take on it at least, but i'm no pro...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#245
Also:

Goody gets a Reaper bunker rush. Reaper harass doing really well from Goody.

I like Reaper expand--->Mech in this matchup, but I usually stop Reapers to get factory faster, but after seeing that I can't help but wonder if extra Reapers would be good.
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
May 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#246
All the people who keep saying mech against toss- THORS are not good anymore, you need to get ghost too so u cant emp the thors. WHich is a waste of ghost energy and a HUGE drain on gas that you need to go mech.
Basically never go longer than 30 min vs toss unless constant battles.
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#247
On May 15 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:53 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine


3:00

reaper and bunker for goody

denied by machine


5:30

goody actually manages to finish the bunker

2 reapers now attacking the hatch


6:30

Goody got a 10 drone kill reaper

machine holds it off

both players around even
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:04:27
May 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#248
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


By going for his economy rather than his army. His army as Gretorp said it are layers of Templar, it is so inefficient trying to attack directly late game but the better idea would be going for his eco.

Hasu relies so much on a steady income to keep up his Templar warp-ins, a single Nexus kill halves the amount of Templars he would be able to get out at that stage in the game, although crippling the economy is the same for every race, it hurts Hasus style much more because if he doesn't have those last one or two Templars then the 30HP Marauder army is going to barrel through and kill everything with their ridiculous DPS

Pretty much playing like Kas does, going for the Nexus's, losing more units doing so, but its better losing units killing his economy than losing them to Storms.

Obviously it isn't that simple in the game, it isn't going to be something like burrowed roaches vs 6gate, you have to outplay your opponent, just like he has to outplay you.
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#249
Huh, cheese transition to cheese by Goody.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#250
On May 15 2011 10:55 WindCalibur wrote:
People should watch Bomber (one of the BEST terrans in the world) vs white-ra. Bomber shows us how terran can stand a chance against protoss late game (in fact he shows that terran is not a bit underpowered against protoss in late game).

In the future, I expect a lot more of mass expand + mass drop -> suicide scvs -> powerful late game army before the protoss can muster up an army as strong. Also note that mules allow terran to sac scvs better.


Yeah i would love to see Bomber against Hasuobs.
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#251
On May 15 2011 10:51 Odien wrote:
My liquibets:
HasuObs > BRAT_OK
GoOdy < Machine
Stalife < MC
Ace > CatZ
Ret < SeleCT

Yours?


That's the exactly the same as mine
Vincere Vel Mori
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#252
On May 15 2011 10:57 Tracedragon wrote:
Huh, cheese transition to cheese by Goody.


cheese into cheese into 60minute turtle game :D
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#253
On May 15 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:53 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine


3:00

reaper and bunker for goody

denied by machine


5:30

goody actually manages to finish the bunker

2 reapers now attacking the hatch


6:30

Goody got a 10 drone kill reaper

machine holds it off

both players around even


9:00

First banshee out for goody

3 queens out for machine with 1 spore on the way
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#254
On May 15 2011 10:57 Tracedragon wrote:
Huh, cheese transition to cheese by Goody.


Into Siege tanks.

Goody, don't ever change.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#255
Machine throwing down spores - suspecting the banshee play :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Ezekyle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia607 Posts
May 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#256
On May 15 2011 10:55 WindCalibur wrote:
People should watch Bomber (one of the BEST terrans in the world) vs white-ra. Bomber shows us how terran can stand a chance against protoss late game (in fact he shows that terran is not a bit underpowered against protoss in late game).

In the future, I expect a lot more of mass expand + mass drop -> suicide scvs -> powerful late game army before the protoss can muster up an army as strong. Also note that mules allow terran to sac scvs better.

White-ra was badly outclassed in that showmatch, I don't think you can really draw any conclusions from those games.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#257
On May 15 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:53 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine


3:00

reaper and bunker for goody

denied by machine


5:30

goody actually manages to finish the bunker

2 reapers now attacking the hatch


6:30

Goody got a 10 drone kill reaper

machine holds it off

both players around even


9:00

First banshee out for goody

3 queens out for machine with 1 spore on the way


10:00

surprise its siege tech for goody

machine loses a hatch at 11:00
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#258
Banshees take down the natural hatchery
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#259
Whoa Goody has killed THIRTY workers - plus the 4 queens he killed ><
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
May 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#260
this looked like this 2v2 select played when he and optikzero went banshee/phoenix and select had 45 kills on one banshee LOL
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