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Games are going on, no caster talk in the LR thread please.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 15 2011 01:52 GMT
#221
On May 15 2011 10:51 ludic123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


Watch Kas vs. HasuObs in the TSL.


might wanna spoiler tag that


Probably should, but then again I'm not sure what the policy is for TSL spoilers. I assume because it's TL people should know TSL results, but I'll try to spoiler tag it in the future.
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 15 2011 01:52 GMT
#222
On May 15 2011 10:50 marvin. wrote:
what is the current song that is playing during the break? heard it a couple times.. it's pretty tight

I want to know this as well, really nice song. o3o~
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 01:53:11
May 15 2011 01:52 GMT
#223
On May 15 2011 10:52 ridonkulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


Watch Kas vs. HasuObs in the TSL.

+ Show Spoiler +
kas won by not letting hasu to get to that point by outplaying him hard so it doesnt really "answer" his question


easy on the spoiler pls
Kevmeister @ Dota2
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 15 2011 01:52 GMT
#224
On May 15 2011 10:51 Odien wrote:
My liquibets:
HasuObs > BRAT_OK
GoOdy < Machine
Stalife < MC
Ace > CatZ
Ret < SeleCT

Yours?

Goody vs machine and Stalife vs MC is where things could go wrong for you :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#225
Now I can finally start watching the games.
It took me only about one hour to make the thread since I'm on a laptop and don't have a mouse to copy&paste fast
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#226
Why is select vs ret last match T___T i'll have to stay awake till 6 am.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#227
On May 15 2011 10:52 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:51 Tsuki.eu wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


Watch Kas vs. HasuObs in the TSL.



i watched, i mean after ur capped, not before that.


that's all the difference



you eventually get there, and there will be at least one big encounter.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 01:54:14
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#228
On May 15 2011 10:49 ffdestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:48 Chainfire99 wrote:
But Brat Ok didn't stick to his "t1" army and he still got rolled! but why!!!!!!!


Well, Goody does a mech style against P and doesn't have amazing success. I think it's ridiculous that a protoss can turtle like that and just wait for the terran to die. It's almost like the tvz matchup... let the z turtle and you will die, but kill them early and have a chance.


Goody goes mech style to compensate for his lack of mechanics. He's said that himself. Might be why he hasn't had as much success. And he's still been fairly successful with it. It's all he does ffs.

Thorzain had plenty of success with a solid mech style before the patch. We'll have to see how it pans out now after it.

And turtling isn't ridiculous. It's just safe. Flash is one of the biggest turtlers to exist in TvP in BW. No one questions the legitimacy of BW or Flash.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#229
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#230
On May 15 2011 10:50 mholden02 wrote:
What is Terran supposed to make late game? Battle Cruisers? I don't see what units Terran adds to make its army better?

The only mech build that was viable was Thorzain's Thor build, and thats gone now. So how does Terran compete past 25 minutes in TvP?


Nope. Nothing really counters a late game deathball, especially with that many expansions and gateways he had. You have to kill the guy way before that. Also, this shit was so annoying in BW. Everyone wanted the blood of the turtle!
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#231
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


no because this is a live report thread.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Miefer
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan229 Posts
May 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#232
i think the problem is that hts are a good counter to any tier 3 units of terran. I mean thors have mana so does banshee and bcs. there is no really good counter to hts. ghost are only equal to hts.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#233
On May 15 2011 10:52 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:51 Odien wrote:
My liquibets:
HasuObs > BRAT_OK
GoOdy < Machine
Stalife < MC
Ace > CatZ
Ret < SeleCT

Yours?

Goody vs machine and Stalife vs MC is where things could go wrong for you :p


Stalife > MC? Don't think so but who knows
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#234
On May 15 2011 10:53 MYM.ClouD wrote:
Why is select vs ret last match T___T i'll have to stay awake till 6 am.


hahahaha :D

goody is haunting you
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#235
Machine with star senses.....
SooYoung-Noona!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#236
On May 15 2011 10:53 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
First game now starting

Goody vs machine on shattered temple

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 12


2:20

15 hatch for machine


3:00

reaper and bunker for goody

denied by machine
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#237
On May 15 2011 10:53 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:49 ffdestiny wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:48 Chainfire99 wrote:
But Brat Ok didn't stick to his "t1" army and he still got rolled! but why!!!!!!!


Well, Goody does a mech style against P and doesn't have amazing success. I think it's ridiculous that a protoss can turtle like that and just wait for the terran to die. It's almost like the tvz matchup... let the z turtle and you will die, but kill them early and have a chance.


Goody goes mech style to compensate for his lack of mechanics. He's said that himself. Might be why he hasn't had as much success.

Thorzain had plenty of success with a solid mech style before the patch. We'll have to see how it pans out now after it.

And turtling isn't ridiculous. It's just safe. Flash is one of the biggest turtlers to exist in TvP in BW. No one questions the legitimacy of BW or Flash.


I never really considered Flash a turtle against P, but I could see it.
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#238
Kas beat Hasu by not letting the game get to the 25 minute mark, still close. Kas either had a commanding lead by that point, or had lost.

Watching Kas vs Hasu will give you no evidence about late game TvP.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#239
On May 15 2011 10:52 ridonkulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


Watch Kas vs. HasuObs in the TSL.

kas won by not letting hasu to get to that point by outplaying him hard so it doesnt really "answer" his question


+ Show Spoiler +

HasuObs actually did get the composition he wanted in the games vs. Kas, but Kas out-expanded him and was able to just throw waves and waves of marauders from multiple directions. HasuObs's strategy is defensive, so Kas responded by playing greedy. That's how you beat this style - by taking map control knowing that HasuObs won't/can't push out before late-game.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
May 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#240
I think HasuObs has a new fan in me :> Definitely my favorite toss right now :D

Sort of late, but I had to say it
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
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