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ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 14 2011 20:28 GMT
#1421
On May 15 2011 05:27 mdma-_- wrote:
awesome games :D
its already been 2,5 hours.
kinda nice to see no cheese at all haha


You're totally jinxing it, cheese is totally inc.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
May 14 2011 20:28 GMT
#1422
On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.

ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern)



And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core



Thinking about it... Pool/Lair/Infestation/Hive/Cavern ... Ultras are T5
Pool/Lair/Spire/Infestation/Hive/Greater Spire... Broods are T6.

I just think the usage of the whole tier-thing in starcraft is not very well defined.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
May 14 2011 20:28 GMT
#1423
50/50 :>
dr Helvetica <3
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1424
On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.

ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern)



And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core

there is no tier 4 in starcraft. its still classified as tier 3.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
7h30n
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia120 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1425
Kas is an impressive player. Really fun to watch him, makes me want to play Terran.

HasuObs is really good also. This match is definitely better than GSL finals and my race isn't even playing
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1426
The future of this match up is really exciting. I feel like Ps might try to incorporate warp prisms to keep their caster energy intact from EMPs. They've got to figure out a way to lessen the severity of ghosts.
#TeamBuLba
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1427
Husky calculates: "that means we're gonna see 1 more game -or- 2 more games" :D
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1428
50-50 poll is a bit surprising
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1429
Poll1 50/50!!
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
Glam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1430
I get that the emps were good, but that game had been over for a good 8-10 mins.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1431
I actually want to see a cheese now



Just would prove them to be not totally one-sided players.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1432
After reading the article by intrigue, it really isn't a surprise this is the level of play we are getting for 3rd place. Neither player has tried out a different strat and the same mistakes are being played out over and over.

This isn't a whine about OP or not, but one can note how predominant ghosts are on the field now. Of any matchup they are the one unit that seem to come out only when toss is out. You don't see that selectivity with any other unit. We'll see how that plays out in this patch.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1433
On May 15 2011 05:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
kas is definitely the better player. His multitasking amd decision making is way better than hasu.


Yes
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1434
I want some cheese. Funny- find myself siding with hasu when I never really had a preference.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1435
On May 15 2011 05:28 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.

ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern)



And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core



Thinking about it... Pool/Lair/Infestation/Hive/Cavern ... Ultras are T5
Pool/Lair/Spire/Infestation/Hive/Greater Spire... Broods are T6.

I just think the usage of the whole tier-thing in starcraft is not very well defined.

hatchery tech=tier 1
lair tech= tier 2
hive tech= tier 3

no need to over complicate it. there are minor divisions within each tier, but that's the gist of it.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1436
5th map will be metapolis

Series is 3-2 to kas
ShogunSeppuku
Profile Joined April 2011
United States80 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1437
Cmon Hasuobs you sexy bastard. You can win this! Just go mass carriers. You know he's going marauders! It's fool-proof!
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1438
I wonder why a lot of pros don't go raven/banshee in TvP?
Vincere Vel Mori
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1439
On May 15 2011 05:28 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:27 mdma-_- wrote:
awesome games :D
its already been 2,5 hours.
kinda nice to see no cheese at all haha


You're totally jinxing it, cheese is totally inc.


Highly doubt any two of these players will cheese ^_^
twoliveanddie
Profile Joined January 2010
United States2049 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1440
On May 15 2011 05:27 nihlon wrote:
I think all of the games have been entertaining/interesting. I don't get where all the negativity comes from.


negativity is part of life.

its kind of like if a company wants to keep a secret, then the secret will probably get out anyways.
so its just part of life to expect those kind of things to happen.

its unfortunate but also naive to not expect it to happen.
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