EPTOn May 08 2011 05:32 jmbthirteen wrote:
no, just no. That makes no sense whatsoever. The game doesn't have to keep up with TZ.
no, just no. That makes no sense whatsoever. The game doesn't have to keep up with TZ.
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Sweden339 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:20 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to thorzain, but you guys really need to rewatch some games if you think he's better then Bomber or MVP TvT, maybe not, TvP very much so. | ||
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Incoherence
United States6 Posts
Fair enough, but even that match-up consisted of the same old Protoss stuff. :| | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:34 mikyaJ wrote: Last time MKP faced MC MKP won so I don't know where you're getting that. I think you may have missed the point of my post... | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:35 WhiteraCares wrote: Naturally i was rooting for Thorzain, however it felt as if he was lacking in several areas. The kid is good, however hes got a long way to go before he can take on mkp, mvp, nestea, naniwa, mc and the like. come on, you can't put naniwa in the same tier as the top4 players in SC2 -.- winning one MLG doesn't make you untouchable | ||
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Taryssa
United States1628 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:35 WhiteraCares wrote: Naturally i was rooting for Thorzain, however it felt as if he was lacking in several areas. The kid is good, however hes got a long way to go before he can take on mkp, mvp, nestea, naniwa, mc and the like. You are aware that he took out MC in this same tournament right? | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:37 Taryssa wrote: You are aware that he took out MC in this same tournament right? Oh man... so many people base who is "better" off of a single match, or the most recent match. | ||
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Taryssa
United States1628 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
I spent all day today working on my car, wasn't home in time for TSL. Were the games epic? I'm so fucking happy with the results oh my god. | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:38 Chicane wrote: Oh man... so many people base who is "better" off of a single match, or the most recent match. no one said he was better. but he's definiately proved he can take them on and hold his own. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:24 shawnyee wrote: Nah, to be fair he got supply blocket quite a bit. Most of the supply blocks that were reported in the LR was inaccurate though. Your not really supply blocked when your supply depot is 3 seconds from finishing and your minerals were already just spent. It's called excellent timing. Not to say it didn't happen it just did happen as much as people pretended. Edit: Quote fail. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:32 antelope591 wrote: For a sport its def more of a bad thing than good thing. People watch the best players because of their amazing skill not because they can execute a gameplan. This applies to any sport...the mystique of players like flash and jd is in part of because they can do things no other person can no matter how much they practice...few players can sustain 500 apm while still executing perfectly. But anyway dont want to get into the whole bw sc2 thing. Strategy always plays a huge part in sports, almost as much as skill does. Its why upsets happen in sports. This is why teams game plan so heavily. Skill will get you to the top, no doubt about it. But great strategy will make you even better. Why did the Patriots win three Super Bowls with less skilled players? Because the system and strategy they ran was so good. It works both ways. I can have the strategy that Thorzain just used, but I don't have the mechanics so I will only be able to go so far with that strategy. But if I have the mechanics of Idra and the strategy of a low masters player, that will only take me so far. You need to have both to be successful in sc2. This is why players like MC, Nestea and MVP are so fucking good. Not only do they have great mechanics, but they have great strategy as well. As the game progresses we will see mechanics become more important because strategies will be adapted to. Right now a great strategy can beat a player with great mechanics because the game is young. A few years from now that might not be the case. | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
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BBMorti
Denmark242 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:38 Chicane wrote: Oh man... so many people base who is "better" off of a single match, or the most recent match. Mc said he is the best Terran he has ever played. I understand the great thing about being fanboys but too many people find Koreans to be some sort of super humans.. It must be easy to simply be judged better, always, simply based on where you live in the eyes of fans >.< | ||
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Hasse
Sweden579 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:32 antelope591 wrote: For a sport its def more of a bad thing than good thing. People watch the best players because of their amazing skill not because they can execute a gameplan. This applies to any sport...the mystique of players like flash and jd is in part of because they can do things no other person can no matter how much they practice...few players can sustain 500 apm while still executing perfectly. But anyway dont want to get into the whole bw sc2 thing. Depends if you count chess, poker and the likes as sports or not. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:39 Taryssa wrote: Just saying he can trade blows with the best and there is recent proof of thagt. By your same logic so can Adelscott and Goody. Would you also consider them to be on the level with Nestea MC MKP and MVP? I personally wouldn't. Beating someone in a series of that caliber is impressive, but being consistently at the top is another story. I am NOT saying that Thorzain is bad. I am NOT saying Thorzain is not capable of getting to that point but at this point he just isn't at their level. And again... using your same logic I would disagree that Goody and Adelscott are even close simply because they beat one of those players. | ||
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Guthix
United States209 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:37 Maliris wrote: come on, you can't put naniwa in the same tier as the top4 players in SC2 -.- winning one MLG doesn't make you untouchable I actually agree, although going through the open bracket in MLG and not losing a single game until the finals match is pretty insane. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:42 Guthix wrote: I actually agree, although going through the open bracket in MLG and not losing a single game until the finals match is pretty insane. Ya there wasn't too much competition for him in the open bracket... but I think the real reason he looks so unbeatable is because... what has he even lost recently? To me he seems like a complete beast just because of his consistent results against amazing players. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
Err, have you seen Bombers TvP? And MVP's has gotten a lot better. Don't base things off one series. MC had never seen Thorzain's play before, he couldn't prepare for it. | ||
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