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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 12:05:34
May 08 2011 11:53 GMT
#2161
Thorzain is God! Lol @ people criticising him over the last 4-5 pages. Get over yourselves. Don't have to be einstein to work out he's a very talented player by watching his games, such polished builds,beautiful play, micro, macro etc. This wasn't his most flawless series but he still played very well. He deserves his place near the top of Europe and therefore the foreign scene, hopefully he will start participating in more tournaments in the near future to showcase that talent more regularly.
Niruz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
May 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#2162
On May 08 2011 07:59 hugman wrote:
How come the players get two weeks to prepare for the semi-finals but only one week for the finals?

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 07:44 Mungosh wrote:
It seems like the games were quite good today. How long does it usually take for VoDs to get up?


Quite a few hours, for all to be up like 5-8 hours at least I think

Less than a week for the finals considering they need to fly to new york
Niruz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
May 08 2011 12:47 GMT
#2163
On May 08 2011 18:49 koolaid1990 wrote:
Really, thorzain is the only european terran thats comparable to the top korean terrans. Bomber easily 8-2 whitera, the 2 games he lost in were 4 gate rushes, something whitera hates to do. While thorzain is good, hes mostly good only because of his prepared strategies and builds, at LANS where there are many random games played in a row i dont think he will succeed as much.

But everyone had the same time as him to prepare. I honestly dont get this " hes so good when he prepares but when hes at tournaments he wont do as well " thinking, everyone gets the same amount of time to prepare and the same goes for a lan setting tournament.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 08 2011 14:05 GMT
#2164
Wow didn't expect Thorzain to outplay Kas by that much. But now we'll get to see more of Thorzains TvP! I really hope Naniwa wins tonight because that is going to be one hell of a finals.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
May 08 2011 15:23 GMT
#2165
On May 08 2011 21:47 Niruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 18:49 koolaid1990 wrote:
Really, thorzain is the only european terran thats comparable to the top korean terrans. Bomber easily 8-2 whitera, the 2 games he lost in were 4 gate rushes, something whitera hates to do. While thorzain is good, hes mostly good only because of his prepared strategies and builds, at LANS where there are many random games played in a row i dont think he will succeed as much.

But everyone had the same time as him to prepare. I honestly dont get this " hes so good when he prepares but when hes at tournaments he wont do as well " thinking, everyone gets the same amount of time to prepare and the same goes for a lan setting tournament.



well what has thorzain done outside of tsl in major tournaments? I think thorzain is an awesome terran, but hasnt showcased his full talent outside of tsl.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
quaffle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States249 Posts
May 08 2011 16:28 GMT
#2166
Wow! As I protoss player, I find TvT very boring when they make marine/tank. The marine/tank composition naturally creates stagnate play until one player decides go make air. But Kas and ThorZain made that SO exciting! So much better than any GSL TvT I have ever seen. Congratz ThorZain... that was awesome.
Your success is only measured by the strength of your competitors.
Double
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany22 Posts
May 08 2011 16:36 GMT
#2167
Last Game was damn exciting, the rest of it not sooo much since you could see very soon who was gonna take the win.
Hence overall a bit disappointing.

Cant see Thorzain NOT claming the title now!
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
May 08 2011 16:52 GMT
#2168
So the guy who beat MC went 4-1 in his next round? That sounds about right.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
May 08 2011 16:59 GMT
#2169
ThorZain should totally go to Korea. They're all about practice and preparation (which is seen as they usually fail in the tournaments where they underestimate their opponents or are underprepared), and I think his talent and determination could flourish really well there.
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
May 08 2011 20:50 GMT
#2170
congrats to thorzain i ttly did not expect him to win, but he did beat mc ^^
*rawr* d(^_^d)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
May 08 2011 21:21 GMT
#2171
Congrats thorzain
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
May 09 2011 07:48 GMT
#2172
Also, that last game was as BW-like as they get. Awesome.
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 08:54:11
May 09 2011 08:53 GMT
#2173
On May 08 2011 05:30 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 05:16 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On May 08 2011 05:14 TheBanana wrote:
And also you can say what you want about Mvp vs Bomber but none of those games could hold a candle to game 5 of Kas vs Thorzain.
Bomber and MVP on the same map had basically one clunk of units each that they moved around IIRC, Kas and Thorzain were all over the place. The argument is really that MVP and Bomber are better because they have korean passports, I disagree. All those 4 players could beat each other(Unless you give Thorzain preparation-time ).


No, just no, won't even read the rest.


In comparison, yes just yes, go watch it.
I just did a speed-rewatch to make sure I remembered correctly, I stand by what I said.


If you tell the truth than this is one factor why i fell love with the game, watched a BW game, dont know who played who, but it was TvP, and stuff happend on the WHOLE map constantly and simultaneously makes things sooo much more exciting than leading balls of armies (though the 200 cap doesnt help this much). Also, sieage tank is an awesome unit that forces this kind of play, must love it.
If you are into this stuff you should watch some SupCom games, they are all about this (well, there are exceptions, but the game definitely encourages this, especially 2v2s).
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Lank3r
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 16:41:00
May 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#2174
Koreans are better than foreigners. The best korean players right now were terrible in brood war and they still kinda own foreigners. Just wait until the top brood war players (flash, jaedong, bisu) switch over.

User was banned. Previously banned user and horrible bump.
randplaty
Profile Joined September 2010
205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 15:50:39
May 13 2011 15:50 GMT
#2175
On May 14 2011 00:45 Lank3r wrote:
Koreans are better than foreigners. The best korean players right now were terrible in brood war and they still kinda own foreigners. Just wait until the top brood war players (flash, jaedong, bisu) switch over.


What if they never switch over? There's no guarantee that they ever will. SC2 may live besides BW for a long time.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#2176
On May 08 2011 21:47 Niruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 18:49 koolaid1990 wrote:
Really, thorzain is the only european terran thats comparable to the top korean terrans. Bomber easily 8-2 whitera, the 2 games he lost in were 4 gate rushes, something whitera hates to do. While thorzain is good, hes mostly good only because of his prepared strategies and builds, at LANS where there are many random games played in a row i dont think he will succeed as much.

But everyone had the same time as him to prepare. I honestly dont get this " hes so good when he prepares but when hes at tournaments he wont do as well " thinking, everyone gets the same amount of time to prepare and the same goes for a lan setting tournament.

That's the point, ThorZain is better than other players when the match has a long preparation time to fine tune specific build orders and strategy etc.

He is not as good as other players in LAN setting when each match is less than an hour apart because other players are better than him in those situations.
MKP||TSL
StrKrft
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1 Post
May 13 2011 16:27 GMT
#2177
He should used more immortals. Lame.
What do I write here?
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
May 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#2178
WHo thorzain ore kas? :S
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