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On May 08 2011 04:55 SgtPepper wrote:
OMG I LOVE YOU THORZAIN
First he played the best TvP of SC2 against MC
Now he played the best TvT of SC2 against Kas.
EPIC.
Bring on Naniwa! (or Hasu)
Meh they were really good games but i defenetly would not call them the best games in sc2.
I prefered MMA vs MVP for my favourite TVT in the last game of the GSTL.
As for PVT they were pretty damn good, but squirtle Vs IMMVP in another GSTL finals was just as epic. Also i thought the Hasuobs vs Boxer games were very good PVT's as even though hasuobs won 3-0 the games were all quite close. Also some PVT's with alicia that were really notable.
But im a protoss player and i assume your a terran player so were obviously gonna have diff oppinions on the best games. (as your going to be saying the ones where terran players win are your favourite and im going to be saying protoss)
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On May 08 2011 05:11 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. That must be why he crushed Kas and lost to Polt!
Maybe he bases his assessment on more than two games.
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Thorzain plays so impressive and I really hope he will stay on top even after tsl and get good practise in the mouse-house ^^ (hope he moves to stockholm to live with tlo and morrow :D)
gogo thorzain vs naniwa in the finals :D
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On May 08 2011 05:07 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. You haven't watched the MC interview? :p
Link please!
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On May 08 2011 05:11 Hasse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:07 Sneakyz wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. You haven't watched the MC interview? :p Could you link please?
There you go
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220146
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Well played Thorzain.
Best of Luck
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On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans.
What is with the attitude of some people who are coming up for the koreans. Damn europeans are catching up for once and people don't want to believe that. Also to point out that Dimaga won 2-0 vs Lyn. But still loses vs top terrans in eu. Also sjow beating Zenio 2-1 is proving something.
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Why does LR threads always turn into some form of dick measuring contest? (metaphorically that its)
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
Not according to MC.
He said EU terrans are better than Koreans but Koreans has better Zs and Ps.
And also you can say what you want about Mvp vs Bomber but none of those games could hold a candle to game 5 of Kas vs Thorzain.
Bomber and MVP on the same map had basically one clunk of units each that they moved around IIRC, Kas and Thorzain were all over the place. The argument is really that MVP and Bomber are better because they have korean passports, I disagree. All those 4 players could beat each other(Unless you give Thorzain preparation-time  ).
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On May 08 2011 05:13 norlock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. What is with the attitude of some people who are coming up for the koreans. Damn europeans are catching up for once and people don't want to believe that. Also to point out that Dimaga won 2-0 vs Lyn. But still loses vs top terrans in eu. Also sjow beating Zenio 2-1 is proving something.
Zenio does nothing but lose these days.
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On May 08 2011 05:12 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:11 Telcontar wrote:On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. That must be why he crushed Kas and lost to Polt! Maybe he bases his assessment on more than two games.
And maybe he said it because he was being interviewed by europeans. Don't take everything he says seriously. Yes europe has some beasty terrans but korea has a even scarier lineup.
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On May 08 2011 05:14 TheBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. Not according to MC. He said EU terrans are better than Koreans but Koreans has better Zs and Ps. And also you can say what you want about Mvp vs Bomber but none of those games could hold a candle to game 5 of Kas vs Thorzain. Bomber and MVP on the same map had basically one clunk of units each that they moved around IIRC, Kas and Thorzain were all over the place. The argument is really that MVP and Bomber are better because they have korean passports, I disagree. All those 4 players could beat each other(Unless you give Thorzain preparation-time ).
No, just no, won't even read the rest.
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On May 08 2011 05:15 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:13 norlock wrote:On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. What is with the attitude of some people who are coming up for the koreans. Damn europeans are catching up for once and people don't want to believe that. Also to point out that Dimaga won 2-0 vs Lyn. But still loses vs top terrans in eu. Also sjow beating Zenio 2-1 is proving something. Zenio does nothing but lose these days.
Cross-server results also don't mean a s***.
And Bomber or Mvp would never be supply blocked that often lol.
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And Bomber or Mvp would never be supply blocked that often lol.
At which point Thorzain was supply blocked ? It happened once or twice to Empire.Kas.
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On May 08 2011 05:07 Azarkon wrote:
Thorzain plays a lot of mind games. It wouldn't surprise me if he took this to the meta-tournament stage, losing games on purpose in certain tournaments that he doesn't care that much about in order to throw his opponents off.
that's actually an interesting thought. The fact that he played as zerg in the last match of the RtK tourny perhaps plays to this theory?
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On May 08 2011 05:13 norlock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. What is with the attitude of some people who are coming up for the koreans. Damn europeans are catching up for once and people don't want to believe that. Also to point out that Dimaga won 2-0 vs Lyn. But still loses vs top terrans in eu. Also sjow beating Zenio 2-1 is proving something.
Eh, when did SjoW play Zenio? You mean Check?
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On May 08 2011 05:17 Nijel wrote:At which point Thorzain was supply blocked ? It happened once or twice to Empire.Kas.
Nah, to be fair he got supply blocket quite a bit.
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On May 08 2011 05:12 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:11 Telcontar wrote:On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans. That must be why he crushed Kas and lost to Polt! Maybe he bases his assessment on more than two games.
MC also said in another interview that he has no rival only to get stomped on by various korean and non-korean terrans shortly after. He also said that zerg is imba and he only lost against MVP in the GSTL because his teammates did poorly.
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Grats to thorzain, but you guys really need to rewatch some games if you think he's better then Bomber or MVP
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Congrats to Thorzain on making the Finals!
Awesome tactics on Set 4 Terminus when Thorzain tanked the missile turret damage with Vikings in order to get his four octo-drops of marines into Kas's 2nd natural base for the killing blow. Sick move. Without the vikings, I estimate only two of the medivacs would have gotten through because 3 turrets were waiting and Kas probably would have survived.
Often SCVs are pulled to absorb damage from marine/tanks in ground battles, but I don't think I've ever seen Vikings pulled to tank damage for medivac drop!
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