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On May 08 2011 05:06 Fighter wrote:
Although ThorZain has had an amazing run in the TSL, he also got knocked out of the Road to Korea tournament pretty quickly, and that tournament wasn't even international. Granted, Sweden's probably the strongest non-Korean country... but still, it certainly casts a bit more doubt on ThorZain's game. Perhaps he's only so strong when he has ample time to prepare for a certain opponent?
On the other hand Naniwa has been exceptionally consistent. Although I might not put ThorZain as an underdog against HasuObs, I'd say Naniwa would have to be the tournament favorite here.
Also, Thorzain's TvP has been completely exposed in his matches vs Tyler & MC.
On top of that Naniwa probably has one of the best PvT in the world, he'll come up with anti-thorzain builds... Only way for Thorzain to win is to out-prepare Naniwa.
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
I don't think Thorzain could touch MVP/Bomber/MKP. But with some time to prepare he could IMO take on any other terran, korean or not.
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On May 08 2011 05:04 Bacondemon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:03 Thobrik wrote:On May 08 2011 05:00 ShooTouts wrote:On May 08 2011 04:59 insaneMicro wrote:
ThorZain beat MC ffs.
For me, he's no longer the underdog vs anyone. After this run, I think it's fair to rank him up there with the world's best terrans like MVP, MarineKing or SC2 NaDa. I agree theres no way Thorzain is an underdog even against Naniwa. The thing that's so difficult to comprehend is that ThorZain doesn't play at nearly the same level without proper preparation. Look for example at his games in The Gathering and the Rakaka tournament http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Road_to_Korea Thorzain off-raced and stuff in the rakaka tournament, I don't think he's interested in going to Korea
He only off-raced after he was already effectively out of the tournament.
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Err I'm confused. Don't you need to win 4 games to win a bo7?
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On May 08 2011 05:08 Kuror wrote:
Err I'm confused. Don't you need to win 4 games to win a bo7?
He won 4-1
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On May 08 2011 05:06 Fighter wrote:
Although ThorZain has had an amazing run in the TSL, he also got knocked out of the Road to Korea tournament pretty quickly, and that tournament wasn't even international. Granted, Sweden's probably the strongest non-Korean country... but still, it certainly casts a bit more doubt on ThorZain's game. Perhaps he's only so strong when he has ample time to prepare for a certain opponent?
On the other hand Naniwa has been exceptionally consistent. Although I might not put ThorZain as an underdog against HasuObs, I'd say Naniwa would have to be the tournament favorite here.
Its true naniwa if he wins has a beastly pvp and hasuobs has a fairly ok pvp that has kinda gone downhill since the KA change (he was a templar based player), but i think since this is tsl and there is plenty of time to prepare throzain has the advanatage over what protoss he faces, no matter what happens though you can be guarenteed to see some very skilled games.
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hehe 2bad its not a z in final so he could practice TvZ for a week or so and be awesome in that matchup also )
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Imo thorzain is going to win some lan tournament in the near future. It's not like his series preparation/builds are the sole reason he's doing well, his micro/macro/reactions/game sense is just top notch in each and every one of his TSL games.
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
The Koreans are all out already after all......arent they?
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
Thorzain beat mc who is considered the best if not best than second to mvp. I'm pretty sure he could take games off of both of those players
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Congrats Thorzain you are t3h man!!!
Awesome matches!!!
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love thorzains tvt. well played man
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans.
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On May 08 2011 05:03 Thobrik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:00 ShooTouts wrote:On May 08 2011 04:59 insaneMicro wrote:
ThorZain beat MC ffs.
For me, he's no longer the underdog vs anyone. After this run, I think it's fair to rank him up there with the world's best terrans like MVP, MarineKing or SC2 NaDa. I agree theres no way Thorzain is an underdog even against Naniwa. The thing that's so difficult to comprehend is that ThorZain doesn't play at nearly the same level without proper preparation. Look for example at his games in The Gathering and the Rakaka tournament http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Road_to_Korea
I heard he got teamkilled in the gathering, and he plays Zerg in The Road to Korea.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:10 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. MC thinks european terrans are better than korean terrans.
That must be why he crushed Kas and lost to Polt!
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France13023 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:09 Mioraka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. The Koreans are all out already after all......arent they?
Somesay it was cross-server.
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On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them.
He is like those guys that "imo" thought Draco would win against iloveoov, can't help the helpless.
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I think this TSL will do good for Thorzain as a player. First he practiced for a strong zerg, then 2 strong protoss, then a terran. All that practice will elevate his standard play in all those matchup. I have faith in this kid's future 
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On May 08 2011 05:07 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 05:05 Guthix wrote:On May 08 2011 05:02 Kazang wrote:
These european Terrans are off the charts good. Even more impressive than MVP or Bomber imo. Lol I don't think thorzain or kas could take a game off of either Mvp or Bomber. Yes they do well in the TSL, but I don't think you realize how much better Mvp and Bomber are. The european terrans are most definitely the best in the foreign world, but korean terrans would probably wreck them. You haven't watched the MC interview? :p
Could you link please?
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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