EPTNASL Day 4-2 - Page 58
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SwampZero
Greece350 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:04 Unnamed wrote: I don't get why QXC didn't made raven using so many scans instead. For a long while he was behind on tech due to the double orbital play. Got a relatively late starport....by the time he could've gone raven I think he was planning a push and needed the medivacs, and didn't expect White Ra to keep up with the dts. It's very strange for a Toss to waste THAT MANY dts, but Ra could afford to because of his smart composition. The headscratcher is why he didnt hunt down the pylon O.O | ||
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Aequos
Canada606 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:05 Elean wrote: I just don't understand how you can sac so many DT for no damage and still be ahead. Can anyone explain ? Yeah it forced to use some mules, but with 1 extra OC it isn't that big of a deal... The Terran army requires heavy amounts of minerals (which lets you build it faster than Protoss). Each DT basically costs QXC a scan, so as long as WhiteRa isn't making an immensely gas-heavy army, he's ahead. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:05 MUFFINS1 wrote: Umm QXC already had a factory there was a long period of time where QXC scanned all those zeolots where he couldve easily amassed a lot of hellions. U do realize u need to make counters to succeed in this game right? No you don't - you need to play better than your opponent. You can win MMM verse Zealot/HT if you play better  Not everything is about counters dude; qxc should've gone mass cloaked banshee because zealots don't hit air zomg! | ||
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Imres
515 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:04 Glaven wrote: While that may generally be true I'm sure any high level terran would agree that QXC played horrribly. I agree but platinium :o (top master seems more accurate imo) he seems really helpless against this strat by white ra, and miss some (imo) crucial timings. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
lol. XD | ||
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kmh
Finland351 Posts
Anypro vs Nestea was one prime example of a protoss doing silly builds being punished. In fact, july vs cruncher game 1 and nestea vs anypro had the protoss dying the exact same way: going stargate into colossus without scouting if a hydra/ling bust was coming. Cruncher vs July game 2 was another example of a protoss cutting corners being punished. You can't forge FE like that on that map without scouting first. Dunno why people try stuff like that - are they just used to getting away with it? | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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TofuFox
374 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:03 DiaBoLuS wrote: i doubt qxc would even reach grandmaster in europe atm... so terrible play by him, i dont get how he got invited to nasl after the 1-10 maps @ iem and not a single good result besides tsl qualifier and a win vs genius, who played terrible that games Fenix wasn't really doing any better and he's 4-0, only dropping one map along the way. Some of the slumping (Fenix) or borderline (InControl) invites have done really well, others haven't (QXC, Artosis). Hopefully the latter can turn it around. | ||
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khanofmongols
542 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Clog
United States950 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:07 bkrow wrote: No you don't - you need to play better than your opponent. You can win MMM verse Zealot/HT if you play better Not everything is about counters dude; qxc should've gone mass cloaked banshee because zealots don't hit air zomg! Yes, everything IS about counters. White Ra skipped colossus and went HT tech to counter mass bio and qxc lost because he had a bad unit composition. If you think MMM vs chargelot/HT is a good composition then there is a problem. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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Aequos
Canada606 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:08 kmh wrote: Protoss players are doing some silly, silly builds PvZ. It seems Zergs are figuring out how to punish protosses who cut corners. + Show Spoiler [GSL] + Anypro vs Nestea was one prime example of a protoss doing silly builds being punished. In fact, july vs cruncher game 1 and nestea vs anypro had the protoss dying the exact same way: going stargate into colossus without scouting if a hydra/ling bust was coming. Cruncher vs July game 2 was another example of a protoss cutting corners being punished. You can't forge FE like that on that map without scouting first. Dunno why people try stuff like that - are they just used to getting away with it? In a word, yes. The prevalent Zerg strategy was "sit back and crush his push with your superior macro." The prevailing Protoss strategy became "sit back and make a really strong army, then go crush your opponent." | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
Oh and to the guy who called incontrol gimmicky earlier, white ra was gimmicky that game too right? | ||
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MUFFINS1
United States533 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:07 bkrow wrote: No you don't - you need to play better than your opponent. You can win MMM verse Zealot/HT if you play better Not everything is about counters dude; qxc should've gone mass cloaked banshee because zealots don't hit air zomg! Last time I checked charglots rape mmm and hts also rape mmm Switching to banshees is a large tech switch unlike hellions If you were paying attention you would notice QXC had an idle factory the whole game It really isn't that hard to add a tech lab then get blue flame You can't make the unit ur opponent is countering the whole game and expect to win buddy | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:07 bkrow wrote: No you don't - you need to play better than your opponent. You can win MMM verse Zealot/HT if you play better Not everything is about counters dude; qxc should've gone mass cloaked banshee because zealots don't hit air zomg! true. switch to hellions in that situation is stupid. his 3rd was way too late, he didnt handle the dts well, missed the timings to attack, added ghost a bit too late. those were his mistakes. and he has no top-player micro pretty obviously | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
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