EPTNASL Day 4-2 - Page 57
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Aequos
Canada606 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:02 Samhax wrote: QXc lost because of the scans all game long? He was badly outmacroed, and part of that was the wasted mules. | ||
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Glaven
Canada554 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:02 Imres wrote: A lot of players look really bad when playing white-ra, amazing unit composition, only one sentry. While that may generally be true I'm sure any high level terran would agree that QXC played horrribly. | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:01 Condor Hero wrote: no offense to qxc but when has anyone ever considered him top level? Before he was studying abroad he was one of the best NA players. Idra even said so. There is a reason he qualified for the IEM championship and TSL3 | ||
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ShallNoiseUpon
United States311 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:04 Hollis wrote: It's the opportunity cost of lost mules that makes it worth it. How many minerals is one mule worth, like 270? I don't understand this argument. If a MULE is 270 minerals, a drone is infinity minerals. | ||
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delayed reflex
Canada358 Posts
 qxc really seemed off though :-/ | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:03 Mailing wrote: He had 10 minutes to switch tech, decided to stay on MMM against zealot/sentry/HT. All these units are weak to hellions. You don't even need upgrades. One hellion shot on a zealot ball would do 200-400 damage, it helps a LOT. He didn't scout the HT/zealots until far later than that time, as far as I know, because the constant DT harass made him have to keep scanning his natural. At that point, he didn't have the medivacs he would also need to supplement the ball. The biggest issue may have been the lack of armor upgrades. Chargelots do a lot better when their attack ups are better than your armor. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:02 Samhax wrote: QXc lost because of the scans all game long? Well he invested a lot of his early minerals into the 2 CC's so he didn't have as many SCVs as he could have gotten (which is obviously important for taking the macro lead). As the DT harass happened... he lost a lot of their worth spending all the orbital's energy on scans... and then WhiteRa expanded while slowing QXC down by constantly harassing with DTs. It looked cost inefficient, but it slowed down the expansion quite awhile, and it allowed him to expand and macro up easily. It looked even for quite awhile there, but when WhiteRa's macro kicked in it was over. At least that's what it looked like to me.  | ||
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Tyrr
United States216 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:04 AimForTheBushes wrote: That was random...CatZ and AxSlav getting to obs these games?! I was wondering the same thing earlier..maybe they're just using those 2 accounts for the casters? | ||
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UNeeK
United States237 Posts
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:03 Mailing wrote: He had 10 minutes to switch tech, decided to stay on MMM against zealot/sentry/HT. All these units are weak to hellions. You don't even need upgrades. One hellion shot on a zealot ball would do 200-400 damage, it helps a LOT. bullshit, rly. you cannot upgrade blueflame hellions and get enough hellions out (2 fac, 1 reactor 1 techlab) in time without losing mapcontrol (which qxc didnt ever use tbh) and "momentum" he simply didnt attack when he shouldve, added ghosts way too late and couldve easily taken a way earlier 3rd | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:01 Condor Hero wrote: no offense to qxc but when has anyone ever considered him top level? Were you here when the game first came out? Qxc was CONSTANTLY showing top performances in various tournaments. Just look at his results page: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Qxc Obviously things seem to have slowed down for him at the turn of the year. I'm guessing that's around the same time he went to Spain though. | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
Can anyone explain ? Yeah it forced to use some mules, but with 1 extra OC it isn't that big of a deal... | ||
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MUFFINS1
United States533 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:02 sermokala wrote: Yes make blue flame hellions out of your barracks tell me how that goes. upgraded chargelots up in your face you an't got no place. Umm QXC already had a factory there was a long period of time where QXC scanned all those zeolots where he couldve easily amassed a lot of hellions. U do realize u need to make counters to succeed in this game right? | ||
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Sight-
184 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:04 Glaven wrote: While that may generally be true I'm sure any high level terran would agree that QXC played horrribly. I agree. I frickin love White-Ra, and I respect him a ton. But his macro was just...bad. I know he lost the mules to scans but even still, he went for too many upgrades, and got gasses too late. | ||
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thec0ne
United States30 Posts
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radiumz0rz
United States253 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:05 UNeeK wrote: most casters seem to feel fake when they get excited... you can tell when its real and when its not... this is why i like artosis though, when hes excited you can tell hes really excited.. I dont know what you're talking about, Gretorp screams so annoyingly loud when he gets excited. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:05 Elean wrote: I just don't understand how you can sac so many DT for no damage and still be ahead. Can anyone explain ? Yeah it forced to use some mules, but with 1 extra OC it isn't that big of a deal... WhiteRa was up a base for a loooooong time. | ||
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