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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1441
On May 05 2011 20:03 Kyyuna wrote:
Who the cute girl doing Anypro's intro?

She's very cute <3



Nestea, go for 3-1~ :D


This XD

Anypro comeback inc!

Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1442
Strange choice for 3rd no ? (location would be middle 9 i guess)
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1443
On May 05 2011 20:01 dusthoof wrote:
Learn about soft and hard counters before watching or playing Starcraft. Countering isn't so direct like rock, paper, scissor


You forgot gun.
Love is more fun than hate.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1444
On May 05 2011 20:04 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:59 Zinthar wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:56 BuzZoo wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:55 Dingobloo wrote:
Corruptor is a wierd choice, I would have though infestor, tight chokes, phoenixes.


True. I think he's just been popping up a spire in all 3 games in case of collosus. Just another reason why all the people crying 'all in' are retarded.


Corruptors are the Zerg's necessary response to mass phoenix. Remember that FG only holds units in place for 4 seconds, so against a dozen or more phoenix it's not terribly helpful. On that same map anypro went for a lot of phoenix against July in the March GSL and July shut it down quickly with corruptors.


But with hydras already out? I'm not sure. 4 seconds of hydra dps before pheonixes get any lifts in seems like it could be pretty strong.

Not to mention fungal does a ton of damage to phoenix
I have no quote!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1445
Anypro going void ray before phoenixes, NesTea's evo chamber is done.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1446
A lone sentry from anypro denies an overlord from scouting the double stargate.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1447
On May 05 2011 20:01 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:56 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:52 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:50 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:43 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:42 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.


He could easily have retreated from a Colossus, and taken a third, and chilled.

Hell, if he had a faster colossus he could have even taken that out.


You have absolutely no way to hold the 2-3 colossus push that should be impending on your third from that position in the game. If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind - the definition of an all-in.

No, that's the definition of a failed attack. Any attack that fails will leave you behind, duh! An allin is where you have no reasonable prospect of winning the game if it fails to deal heavy damage. Not just being behind.


I'm lost, I just described a situation where you are guaranteed to lose if the opponent does a standard timing push (by lose I mean lose your third and likely your natural a little later). That isn't just being behind O_o that's what happens when an all-in fails.

I don't agree you have no chance of holding the colossus push but anyways. I was responding to your final sentence. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind" is the definition of a failed attack, not an allin. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're fucked" is an allin.

Not taking into account that an "allin" that does guaranteed damage is simply solid play, and really shouldn't be associated with junk like scv allins.


I'm sorry I didn't say "very far behind" then, I guess - if you asked any zerg pro they would consider Nestea's position in both game one & two all-in, I'm sure.

People not understanding what an all-in is and how, in the right circumstances, they are a smart play, shouldn't mean we need to rename it.


Except it does need a different name since most people are using the word "all-in" as a derogatory term. If an "all-in" is guaranteed to do damage and are the correct response to what your opponent is doing, it shouldn't be called an all-in if people are going to continue using the term as they are doing.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
May 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#1448
You know, maybe it's just me, but I would have totally done a soft contain and got my Infestor Tech out. Just 2 Infestors would have changed that whole Hydra bust... Though it probably would have taken a bit too much time.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1449
On May 05 2011 19:59 eluv wrote:
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On May 05 2011 19:52 branflakes14 wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:51 eluv wrote:
Kind of cool that the counter to Hydras is to make MORE of the units hydras counter. Anypro is teaching us all.


Phoenixes get their bonus damage against Hydralisks. Just because Hydralisks can shoot them doesn't mean they're automatically the best way of beating them.


I'm confused. Maybe this is the next evolution of the metagame, but I"ve rarely seen anyone go spire against phoenixes, and what else would zerg be using to shoot them?

I guess against double stargate you really need the corruptors, but it's certainly been the case so far that hydras are the auto-answer to stargates.

There's a big difference between some phoenix - which are stopped by hydras, and MASS phoenix, a number that can pick up all your hydras. For the latter, you really need fungal and/or loads of corrupters.
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1450
Nestea is sporing all his bases, he sees it.
antihero_
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands494 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1451
On May 05 2011 20:01 Telcontar wrote:
He didn't block his own nexus! Huzzah!

Damnit! Almost called it..
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1452
Yeah who is anypros girl shes hot
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1453
I can't help but giggle everytime I look at the OP post
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Ayrie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1454
anypro forgoing warp gate tech in favor of +1 air weapons and fast double stargate off of his forge FE. nestea adds a third in the left center expo instead of his natural third.

i think nestea might not be prepared in time to hold this mass phoenix swarm that's inevitably coming. if nestea can hold the void ray / phoenix at home while he busts the front with roach bling, it might be enough to cause anypro to tap out.
And that's what she said.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1455
Gom player you make me sad Why bug out now?!

Need to watch nestea play!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1456
Baneling nest, roach warren, and +1 melee weapons coming out for NesTea... bwuh?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1457
On May 05 2011 20:01 dusthoof wrote:
Learn about soft and hard counters before watching or playing Starcraft. Countering isn't so direct like rock, paper, scissor


Banelings, marines, and siege tanks would like to have a word with you.

So would vikings and battlecruisers. And Collosi and hydralisks.

Even if every counter is rock over scissors, there are still plenty of hard-counters in starcraft 2.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1458
WTF, Baneling nest + Roach warren, and he already has spore crawlers up even without having scouted the stargates.
It appears I have been chosen.
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1459
Lifted baneling do not splash damage
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#1460
Lol of course they don't. That'll be so imba for protoss
<3 DongRaeGu <3
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