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Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
May 05 2011 11:00 GMT
#1401
It's eun jung
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1402
On May 05 2011 20:00 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
again with the misplacement of pylons, come on

Anypro is so unpro
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
papyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines716 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1403
nestea lost. but at least we can see the intros again. :3
dusthoof
Profile Joined August 2010
279 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1404
Learn about soft and hard counters before watching or playing Starcraft. Countering isn't so direct like rock, paper, scissor
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1405
On May 05 2011 19:56 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:52 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:50 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:43 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:42 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.


He could easily have retreated from a Colossus, and taken a third, and chilled.

Hell, if he had a faster colossus he could have even taken that out.


You have absolutely no way to hold the 2-3 colossus push that should be impending on your third from that position in the game. If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind - the definition of an all-in.

No, that's the definition of a failed attack. Any attack that fails will leave you behind, duh! An allin is where you have no reasonable prospect of winning the game if it fails to deal heavy damage. Not just being behind.


I'm lost, I just described a situation where you are guaranteed to lose if the opponent does a standard timing push (by lose I mean lose your third and likely your natural a little later). That isn't just being behind O_o that's what happens when an all-in fails.

I don't agree you have no chance of holding the colossus push but anyways. I was responding to your final sentence. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind" is the definition of a failed attack, not an allin. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're fucked" is an allin.

Not taking into account that an "allin" that does guaranteed damage is simply solid play, and really shouldn't be associated with junk like scv allins.


I'm sorry I didn't say "very far behind" then, I guess - if you asked any zerg pro they would consider Nestea's position in both game one & two all-in, I'm sure.

People not understanding what an all-in is and how, in the right circumstances, they are a smart play, shouldn't mean we need to rename it.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1406
On May 05 2011 19:59 eluv wrote:
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On May 05 2011 19:52 branflakes14 wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:51 eluv wrote:
Kind of cool that the counter to Hydras is to make MORE of the units hydras counter. Anypro is teaching us all.


Phoenixes get their bonus damage against Hydralisks. Just because Hydralisks can shoot them doesn't mean they're automatically the best way of beating them.


I'm confused. Maybe this is the next evolution of the metagame, but I"ve rarely seen anyone go spire against phoenixes, and what else would zerg be using to shoot them?

I guess against double stargate you really need the corruptors, but it's certainly been the case so far that hydras are the auto-answer to stargates.


Corrupters are like thors vs mutas in ZvT except they're not too useful unless your going against colossi. As in, corrupters stall phoenixes but can never actually kill them The only way to actually kill them imo is infestors and FG!
<3 DongRaeGu <3
TheKing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia186 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1407
On May 05 2011 19:56 Ezekyle wrote:
I don't think those force fields were really that impressive. Any pro could have done that.

Clever! :D, I agree too, those forcefields were meh.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1408
When did he block his nexus xD? I see all the talk but I can't remember it ;o?
It appears I have been chosen.
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 11:01:55
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1409
I think the Korean comentators were speculating that he blocked his nexus LOL
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1410
He didn't block his own nexus! Huzzah!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1411
NesTea getting his hatch at about the same time as Anypro's nexus.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
May 05 2011 11:01 GMT
#1412
I think anypro was using this build : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202305 in the last match. It's actually really good.
Go go Alliance.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1413
I think...

yeah the Koreans thought he blocked the nexus again :D

ROFL
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1414
On May 05 2011 20:01 Fyzar wrote:
When did he block his nexus xD? I see all the talk but I can't remember it ;o?

During his game v July on this map.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1415
Guys let's shake off/ignore the bitching.
This is shaping into an epic series and we've already seen two HUGELY fascinating metagame shifts that will surely have ladder ramifications.
Less keyboard and more popcorn I say.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1416
On May 05 2011 19:47 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:44 W2 wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:36 W2 wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:26 ELA wrote:
idra's statement about zerg vs. protoss forge FE on this weeks state of the game, is now completely nullified :D

No offensive options for zerg? Well, next time, just ask Nestea


i want idra's comment on this.. LOL


Idra states time and time again that zerg has no offensive options without going all-in, what exactly do you think that push was? It was a 2 base hydraling all-in.

Everyone needs to stop bringing up balance and SOTG and enjoy these games for what they are: excellent reads and decision making by a great zerg who seems to totally outclass his opponent.


You're thinking about the wrong game, check above quotes to see which game we were talking about. 3 spines = all in?



3 spines at ~25 drones with a rushed lair tech and no other tech is all-in, yes. That's 300/0 and 3 drones or 450/0 and three larva, depending on how you want to look at it, at like the 5 minute mark, as well as rushed tech. Super all-in.


This is like saying cannoning a hatch first is all-in.
If you're guaranteed to do damage you can cut economy, just because you cut economy you're not all-in

God, I'm so tired of this shit
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1417
nestea really delaying his gas
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1418
On May 05 2011 20:01 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:00 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
again with the misplacement of pylons, come on

Anypro is so unpro

He is just as good as any pro...
The legend of Darien lives on
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1419
Anypro supply blocked himself. He stopped building probes for a while
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
May 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#1420
He did forget his second Pylon, though...
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