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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1321
Anypro getting a fleet bacon, thermal lance, and +1 ground armor.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1322
Looks like anypro is working towards a mothership
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1323
On May 05 2011 19:52 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:50 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:43 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:42 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.


He could easily have retreated from a Colossus, and taken a third, and chilled.

Hell, if he had a faster colossus he could have even taken that out.


You have absolutely no way to hold the 2-3 colossus push that should be impending on your third from that position in the game. If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind - the definition of an all-in.

No, that's the definition of a failed attack. Any attack that fails will leave you behind, duh! An allin is where you have no reasonable prospect of winning the game if it fails to deal heavy damage. Not just being behind.


I'm lost, I just described a situation where you are guaranteed to lose if the opponent does a standard timing push (by lose I mean lose your third and likely your natural a little later). That isn't just being behind O_o that's what happens when an all-in fails.

I don't agree you have no chance of holding the colossus push but anyways. I was responding to your final sentence. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind" is the definition of a failed attack, not an allin. "If that build doesn't do serious damage you're fucked" is an allin.

Not taking into account that an "allin" that does guaranteed damage is simply solid play, and really shouldn't be associated with junk like scv allins.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1324
he needed infestors against that many phoenix
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proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1325
You have to go corruptor against 2 stargate phoenix or kill the protoss with a timing attack before they get a ridiculous amount of phoenix up.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:57:06
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1326
On May 05 2011 19:55 Ayrie wrote:
phoenixes only counter hydras in superior or equal numbers + having a gateway army buffering for them initially so that they can go in and get the lifts off before they get picked off instantly. and that's exactly the advantage that anypro's had this game. the fact that anypro has more workers and bases than nestea should be quite telling... why hasn't nestea just GG'ed yet?

because he doesnt know everything that obs does? this is the semi finals and he is on the cusp of winning. keep fighting untill it's apparent that you've lost etc
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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1327
Protoss won.

Broken game, total imbalance, abuse, and all that jazz... right Zergs? Right?

Please continue, you gotta respect your hive-mind and keep it going.

User was temp banned for this post.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1328
On May 05 2011 19:55 Dingobloo wrote:
Corruptor is a wierd choice, I would have though infestor, tight chokes, phoenixes.


True. I think he's just been popping up a spire in all 3 games in case of collosus. Just another reason why all the people crying 'all in' are retarded.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1329
Somehow this game reminds me a bit of BW.
Ezekyle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia607 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1330
I don't think those force fields were really that impressive. Any pro could have done that.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1331
On May 05 2011 19:54 WafflesX3 wrote:
Phoenix counters hydras! Who knew! :O


Hydras are light units and Phoenix do extra damage to light units I believe. Not to mention Pheonix build fast as hell and the mobility difference between phoenix and hydras is very easy to abuse.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1332
WP anypro
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#1333
GG, Anypro played really well that game
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1334
Wow impressive for anypro not to be doing a 1-2 base all in.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1335
What is this s*** going on here with all ins ? A build is an all in as long as you have no transition out of it if you get countered.

In the first, he could NOT get countered and HAD a transition planned.
In the second, same, Protoss was over greedy and Nestea could easily retreat if needed, expand, and continue playing.
The legend of Darien lives on
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:57:51
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1336
Hydras counter void rays and gateway units, and immortals somewhat - colossus, storm, phoenix, partly dt's if you kill overseers, own them so bad.

They are still my preferred all in build in ZvP because they counter a lot of standard builds.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1337
Some pretty good force fields help Anypro narrowly tear apart NesTea's army, NesTea calls gg.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1338
Infestors more useful in this mass phoenix case?
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1339
Well that was some beautiful Phoenix play by Anypro
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Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
May 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1340
On May 05 2011 19:56 Ezekyle wrote:
I don't think those force fields were really that impressive. Any pro could have done that.


Good point and good pun!
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