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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 05 2011 10:31 GMT
#881
On May 05 2011 19:30 Corvi wrote:
the build needs a name, and i dont mean the "nestea build". creative people should think about it :D

should just call it the tasteless build
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#882
Did NesTea scout the stargate? Or was that spore created due to pure starsense?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#883
On May 05 2011 19:30 romanov wrote:
3-gate voidray all-in

I was the first one to post that strategy on the strategy forum for PVZ most people hate on it but i think its quite strong. Shortly after i posted it squirtle used it to beat idra in 3 games at IEM (he must have read my thread lol, jk of course) either way this isnt that strategy its a air play expansion build.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#884
On May 05 2011 19:30 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:27 Stuv wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:24 Ojahh wrote:
I know the poll is a joke but here you go

Poll: Would you recommend game 1 ? NesTea vs anypro

Yes (491)
 
98%

No (6)
 
1%

If you have time (2)
 
0%

499 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1 ? NesTea vs anypro

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time




Haha 6 angry protoss players it seems. :D


More like 6 angry zerg players. "No, how dare a Zerg win! Now people won't believe us when we complain!"

No, everyone knows Zerg only ever only wins on TV.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyperbole + Reference to GomTV not being actually TV
Hi!
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#885
artosis is on fire
gl hf gg
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#886
First Void ray is repelled easily, Nestea has 2 spores 1 in each base.
AP building Pheonix atm.
Nestea lair completes. Hydra den starting
AP starts robo.

Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#887
On May 05 2011 19:30 Executor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:24 Ayrie wrote:
WOW first the spines, and now the hydras! an absolutely mind blowing way to punish an extremely greedy protoss.
on another note: stop dissing idra, you guys are demonstrating how little you actually paid attention to what he was saying on state of the game - he never once claimed the metagame was figured out. he was merely stating the obvious lack of zerg scouting options leading to them having to guess and coinflip when it came to all-ins. nestea's mind blowing strategy has no relation to idra's play, who in fact has been showing much better results in zvp lately anyways.

Funny thing is that protoss has those same restrictions on scouting options in the early game, lair and hallucination/robo should come around the same time / can come around the same time if the zerg isnt being super greedy/ places importance on getting a scout off.

In between there both zerg and protoss dont have scouting options, so its just as much of a coin flip for the protoss, how do they know the zerg isnt doing an all in? Also even after getting 6 sentries 3 stalkers and a zealot with the sentry expand it can be very risky to push out you can lose your whole army if zerg is going for aggresive play.

Both players have to make coin flips it isnt just exclusive for the zerg and thats where idra is wrong.


So much this. Every race has times where they are uncertain of what the opponent is doing, it is a part of the game.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#888
artosis is hilarious :D
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#889
On May 05 2011 19:29 MrCon wrote:
Next metagame evolution will be zergs will build their nat at the protoss' nat xD

Protoss cannon rush Hatch first Zergs: Toss op!
NesTea Spinecrawler rushes Toss's who forge/Nexus first: Nothing but praise.

There is no justice!

jk
diLLa
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands247 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#890
On May 05 2011 19:31 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:29 busbarn wrote:
You guys suddenly think ZvP is balanced because one all in for zerg punish the forge expand? :S

I'm not saying it's imbalanced, but a possible all-in doesn't really change the dynamics of the match up past early game.

with that said, nestea so awesome and that rush so excellent ;>!


How is it an all in? He was taking his third and had already teched.


The NesTease
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#891
On May 05 2011 19:30 Corvi wrote:
the build needs a name, and i dont mean the "nestea build". creative people should think about it :D


the "Nescrawler FE Punisher"
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#892
On May 05 2011 19:30 MrCon wrote:
Like I saud, anypro had 3 forge expand planned, so now he's one basing. I'm in tears :D



what game are you watching, because anypro has his nat expo.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
May 05 2011 10:32 GMT
#893
Hasn't it sort of been established that Hydra drops are the counter to this sort of stargate/expand play?
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#894
On May 05 2011 19:27 caneras wrote:
Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up?


No you aren't making it up. I said it a couple pages ago also, this IS NOT a completely new strategy. It's just that noone has really found a use for it until now. You can execute the spine rush without lair tech as well. You build a forward hatch, cancel it and there will be a small patch of creep that lasts for a fleeting moment. If you move a queen into position and lay down a tumor on the patch before it disappears you can start spreading creep from that location. I think I saw TheWind do it on his stream months ago. Before people start going wild, just think, if this build actually became commonplace, there would be MANY shortcommings and weaknesses that it has that could be easily abused especially by the warpgate mechanic. Its not a new found strategy and theres a reason its not a standard zerg strat. Nonetheless, Nestea has found a useful way to throw it into a series as a sort of "cheese"
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#895
Anypro is going down.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:35:44
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#896
On May 05 2011 19:30 Corvi wrote:
the build needs a name, and i dont mean the "nestea build". creative people should think about it :D



NesTicles


Because you need NesTicles to pull it off.
Maruprime.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#897
Robo bay going down for AnyPro, getting +1 weapons. NesTea has +1 ranged weapons done and just finished hydra range. Going for a hydra/ling bust.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#898
Nestea pushing out with hydra/ling
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#899
Nestea showing the power of hydras!
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 05 2011 10:33 GMT
#900
Mygod, Hydra ling bust, I fuckiiiiing hate this =P. This is not creative at all, it's used a lot, but it's so shhit to hold off just before colossus ^^.
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