EPTGSL Code S RO8 Day 2 - Page 43
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branflakes14
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pilsken
Germany441 Posts
Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up? Entirely different strat. Pushing with Hydras and Spines and Overlord-highway has been done for a while. Punishing a forge-fe Toss with a Lair-rush and forward-built crawlers is about as original as it gets. | ||
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DiViD
Sweden222 Posts
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bbQ4Aiur
Hong Kong2752 Posts
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busbarn
Sweden984 Posts
I'm not saying it's imbalanced, but a possible all-in doesn't really change the dynamics of the match up past early game. with that said, nestea so awesome and that rush so excellent ;>! | ||
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Fenrisulf
United States325 Posts
how does protoss open now in PvZ? o_O come forth and save us again MC! | ||
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Faria
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JuuMeijin
Sweden164 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:27 caneras wrote: Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up? No no no, this is completely different. That strat is a 2-base all-in and you use the creep highway to reinforce faster, this is a superfast Lair that completely counters FFE and is not all-in at all | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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SushilS
2115 Posts
Artosis is just THE MAN! | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:27 FarbrorAbavna wrote: it's a unique strategy done in the gsl in the semi finals. Risky but oh so rewarding and the timings worked out perfectly with the hydras defending then attacking. The hype is justified  and they're meant to be entertaining as well so spreading some extra on is just par the course How is it risky? NesTea doesn't stop droning, he just gets a faster lair and tries the bust. The worst than can happen is being behind on creep spread due to lack of Queens and forcing a ton of cannons from Protoss | ||
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Ayrie
United States213 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:27 caneras wrote: Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up? this is fundamentally different in that idra's giraffe migration (yes, that's what people ended up nicknaming it) is a slow push involving hydras and a few spines meant to punish a greedy protoss midgame who fails to get colossus in time. that push works only in small maps anyways. nestea's push however is completely different: you fast tech to lair, cut offensive units save a few lings to deny scouting / discourage protoss from trying to leave his base, and drop creep on the spot next to the natural to throw up spines on location, as opposed to a slow push with an army backing up the offensive towers. | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:24 mr_tolkien wrote: It's not as easy as that. If you put your canons in the front, a strong 12-14 roaches push can destroy you quite easily. This was really awesome. I know, usually the defensive cannons are very embedded in gateways and nexus buildings. But any cannon ahead of the nexus would help protect against that, and with probes around a defensive cannon can be planted to defend against attempts to reposition spine crawlers (they might require moving overlord and such). A somewhat more active scouting outside of the FE would stop it with cannons. | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:28 Xacez wrote: Since he had his Lair up, couldn't he also research drop and drop some Drones in the main? yes, but that's 100 more gas and 110(?) seconds of research time (for drops), and probes would be able to take out 1 or 2 spines building that close. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
More like 6 angry zerg players. "No, how dare a Zerg win! Now people won't believe us when we complain!" | ||
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Sioo
9 Posts
On May 05 2011 19:22 Juliette wrote: that one's not as new  . But yeah, ladder is gonna be saddening like, 6 hydras walk into the main and shoot at the nexus lol no, ladder will be full of morons who do not get that the build only works against forge fast expend, and the only ladder map where forge fe is possible is taldarim, so more ladder points for me | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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