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branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
May 05 2011 10:28 GMT
#841
I'm gonna be tuning into Idra's stream later.
pilsken
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany441 Posts
May 05 2011 10:28 GMT
#842

Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up?


Entirely different strat. Pushing with Hydras and Spines and Overlord-highway has been done for a while.

Punishing a forge-fe Toss with a Lair-rush and forward-built crawlers is about as original as it gets.
DiViD
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden222 Posts
May 05 2011 10:28 GMT
#843
Anyone else having sound troubles with gomtv? I can hear the gamesounds, gamemusic and the introduction of the players. But not the commentary
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 05 2011 10:28 GMT
#844
Tasteless is sick? he is coughing a lot.
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#845
You guys suddenly think ZvP is balanced because one all in for zerg punish the forge expand? :S

I'm not saying it's imbalanced, but a possible all-in doesn't really change the dynamics of the match up past early game.

with that said, nestea so awesome and that rush so excellent ;>!
Fenrisulf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States325 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#846
so 3 gate expo is defeated by roach ling, 1 gate FE by Nestea's spine push.....
how does protoss open now in PvZ? o_O

come forth and save us again MC!
Faria
Profile Joined February 2011
155 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#847
wow i was grinning the whole game, INSANE by nestea, when he wasn't mining gas but teching lair i was thinking "wtf, mistake not mining gas??" then the drone transfer, jaw dropped to :O :D :O :D :D :O :D
^-^
JuuMeijin
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden164 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#848
Well I guess that's what you get for not building any units
y_y
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#849
On May 05 2011 19:27 caneras wrote:
Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up?


No no no, this is completely different.
That strat is a 2-base all-in and you use the creep highway to reinforce faster, this is a superfast Lair that completely counters FFE and is not all-in at all
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#850
Stargate play eh?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#851
LOOOOL. "Oh Tasteless"..
Artosis is just THE MAN!
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:30:10
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#852
On May 05 2011 19:27 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:26 Seronei wrote:
Isn't Artosis and Tasteless overhyping this build a bit? lol

it's a unique strategy done in the gsl in the semi finals. Risky but oh so rewarding and the timings worked out perfectly with the hydras defending then attacking. The hype is justified

and they're meant to be entertaining as well so spreading some extra on is just par the course

How is it risky? NesTea doesn't stop droning, he just gets a faster lair and tries the bust. The worst than can happen is being behind on creep spread due to lack of Queens and forcing a ton of cannons from Protoss
Ayrie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#853
On May 05 2011 19:27 caneras wrote:
Tastosis keep claiming that this strategy is completely original, but I think I remember seeing Idra do this in the GSL on Steppes of War and called it a creep highway or something like that. He built a bunch of hydras and spine crawlers and ran them down the map while overlords spread creep to make a path for them. It's not the exact same thing, but similar enough to say that Nestea didn't make this idea up on his own. Does anyone else remember this game, or did I just make something up?


this is fundamentally different in that idra's giraffe migration (yes, that's what people ended up nicknaming it) is a slow push involving hydras and a few spines meant to punish a greedy protoss midgame who fails to get colossus in time. that push works only in small maps anyways.

nestea's push however is completely different: you fast tech to lair, cut offensive units save a few lings to deny scouting / discourage protoss from trying to leave his base, and drop creep on the spot next to the natural to throw up spines on location, as opposed to a slow push with an army backing up the offensive towers.
And that's what she said.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#854
stargate otw
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#855
Next metagame evolution will be zergs will build their nat at the protoss' nat xD
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
May 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#856
On May 05 2011 19:24 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:23 Telcontar wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:22 diverzee wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:21 romanov wrote:
Nestea just broke the metagame


But wouldn't a cannon placed just a tad ahead of the nexus stop that? It only works if the protoss has their cannons like that.

lol yes. Calm down people. It could break cannon/gateway walls but not as detrimental as losing a nexus.

It's not as easy as that. If you put your canons in the front, a strong 12-14 roaches push can destroy you quite easily.

This was really awesome.


I know, usually the defensive cannons are very embedded in gateways and nexus buildings. But any cannon ahead of the nexus would help protect against that, and with probes around a defensive cannon can be planted to defend against attempts to reposition spine crawlers (they might require moving overlord and such).

A somewhat more active scouting outside of the FE would stop it with cannons.
Parting
rbx270j
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
May 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#857
On May 05 2011 19:28 Xacez wrote:
Since he had his Lair up, couldn't he also research drop and drop some Drones in the main?


yes, but that's 100 more gas and 110(?) seconds of research time (for drops), and probes would be able to take out 1 or 2 spines building that close.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
May 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#858
On May 05 2011 19:27 Stuv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:24 Ojahh wrote:
I know the poll is a joke but here you go

Poll: Would you recommend game 1 ? NesTea vs anypro

Yes (491)
 
98%

No (6)
 
1%

If you have time (2)
 
0%

499 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1 ? NesTea vs anypro

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time




Haha 6 angry protoss players it seems. :D


More like 6 angry zerg players. "No, how dare a Zerg win! Now people won't believe us when we complain!"
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Sioo
Profile Joined May 2011
9 Posts
May 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#859
On May 05 2011 19:22 Juliette wrote:

that one's not as new . But yeah, ladder is gonna be saddening

like, 6 hydras walk into the main and shoot at the nexus


lol no, ladder will be full of morons who do not get that the build only works against forge fast expend, and the only ladder map where forge fe is possible is taldarim, so more ladder points for me
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#860
To everyone who is still confused: Offensive spines is nothing new. Using spines specifically to counter a Protoss FE however is.
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