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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1581
On May 03 2011 20:36 densha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:33 zocktol wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 ChickenLips wrote:
'One of the best Terrans in Korea'

'Amazing TvZ player'

wow, I don't think Tasteless has ever said something more wrong, and everything he does is plugging sponsor / parrotting Artosis / saying wrong things about SC2 24/7.


Explain, why he is wrong please.


He won the first game with an all-in, the second with another all-in, and the third he predictably went marine/tank on a very marine/tank friendly map. Nothing "amazing", nothing there that makes him one of the best Terrans, etc. I honestly don't know what Tasteless was thinking saying that so many times.


So let me get this right, you think the rightful winner should be the guy who lost to "all-ins" twice in a row, and then failed to defend vs a very predictable strategy.

Yeah.. that sounds about right.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1582
btw here's the bracket from GOM website

different sides

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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1583
On May 03 2011 20:36 covetousrat wrote:
I still feel sangho isnt a finalist material yet. His plays still has lots of holes.


Agreed. Honestly I think the remainder of the players in this GSL just feel a little weak for finals candidates, but I'm not sure who I would really want to replace them. It might be a few GSLs before there's a new set of people who I'm really comfortable talking about as truly S-class players. I'll still bow down to MC and MVP(and possibly a few others depending on how well they're truly playing) but at this point I think everyone's ready to see some other truly top level player emerge and actually succeed.

Also I think most people want it to be a zerg
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Onieh
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1584
On May 03 2011 20:37 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:34 Blasterion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Blasterion wrote:
SC just totally out classed Losira in
A. Multi Aggression -Game 1
B. Early Aggression-Game 2
C. Standard Macro-Game 3

One more Terran Hero has been added to BlasterIon's Terran Hero list

game 3 was not a standard macro game. I dunno why you think it was.

I don't see why it isn't can you please explain to me why that isn't a macro game?

Because Losira basically went all-in speedling with a hidden expansion. That is not standard.

And that's SC's fault how?



Just another baseless reason to discredit SC's wins today . SC won 3-0, SC was clearly the better player today.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1585
On May 03 2011 20:37 Samhax wrote:
Sc is good, but he has shown nothing special about his TvZ, just abusive play and Losira did many mistakes. He was the better player today, no doubt. But when you compare his TvZ with MVP for example, it's night and day, it's not even funny. MVP is the best TvZer in Korea and everything he does is just beautifull, nothing abusive. When he smash a zerg, he outplays him in every ways.


Exactly, that's a good TvZ player. I don't know why people are finding bio all-ins and bunker rushes so inspiring all of a sudden.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#1586
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote:
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On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote:
Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right?



Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either.

How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply?

Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting.


You should go play in the GSL.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1587
On May 03 2011 20:38 Azzur wrote:
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On May 03 2011 20:36 theMarkovian wrote:
Why is everyone going all "Nada vs. sC"? According to liquipedia, Nada is in the upper bracket (vs. the winner of Inca/Killer) and sC in the lower (vs the winner of Nestea/Anypro). Is everyone wrong, or is liquipedia wrong?

It's actually no one's fault - the brackets seem to change every 2nd day (GOM can't make up their minds??)... but since Nada and SC both played on the same day, my money is on them meeting in the semis.


LosirA would meet NesTea in the semis if they both won, so NaDa vs sC isn't going to happen until the finals. Check Liquipedia (they're always right) if you want to be sure.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 11:41:01
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1588
Losira with disappointing micro in game 1 and 2. Not killing the scv building the bunker when all it takes is a zergling and shift right clic spam it is criminal. Losing that spine crawler too. Not making a second spine crawler too. That kind of pressure is super standard, in the IPL select and fenix are doing it each game, and the zergs just defend it fine, it's just a standard early game pressure. Losira very disappointing for dying to that basic stuff.
In game 1, had he just fungaled then parked the infestor behind his mineral line or even in his main (on the cliff over the marine path) he would have finished the game with like 5 or 6 infestors and just destroyed sc
realstarcrafter
Profile Joined March 2011
92 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1589
On May 03 2011 20:38 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:37 Blasterion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:36 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:34 Blasterion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Blasterion wrote:
SC just totally out classed Losira in
A. Multi Aggression -Game 1
B. Early Aggression-Game 2
C. Standard Macro-Game 3

One more Terran Hero has been added to BlasterIon's Terran Hero list

game 3 was not a standard macro game. I dunno why you think it was.

I don't see why it isn't can you please explain to me why that isn't a macro game?

Because Losira basically went all-in speedling with a hidden expansion. That is not standard.

And that's SC's fault how?

...Did I say it was sC's fault? All I said was that it was not a standard macro game, jeeze.

Don't get trolled, brother
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1590
Losira overrated?
You know what I'm talking about
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1591
On May 03 2011 20:37 HyunA1 wrote:
Why is it that I sense 99% of QQ'ers in this thread play zerg?

If it's not cheese that you're crying about, it's something about your race. When a zerg wins, it's "perfect play" that outplays his opponent.


That's actually not true, there tends to be a lot of complains to cheese in general, not only when it's directed at a Zerg.

Example: MC vs White-ra at Dreamhack.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1592
Uh.. so on gomtv they showed the first semifinal as SC vs. Nada. I think i trust gomtv on the gsl more than i do liquipedia...
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 03 2011 11:40 GMT
#1593
To be honest, while sC won, I still think Losira's a slightly better player who just didn't play his best today. But that's not to say sC didn't outplay him today. In fact I think he greatly outplay Losira to the point it made Losira look bad.

I've been saying for the whole season how underrated sC and he clearly showed it today. He's not the best in terms of decision making and he still is mistake prone, but he's still very good and underrated.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
evsky
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1594
Well played in the end by Sc, nice 3rd game.

Rooting for Nestea now :D
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1595
Don't really care about the results,scFou just all-in twice in Game 1 and Game 2.Probably tipped Losira off.This probably caused him to all-in possibly fearing more aggression from scfou or just wanting to end it early out of frustration( very common after being cheesed twice)

In my opinion,Losira is still a great player.Just that in those games,scfou was the better player by playing mind games with losira.

Play your best
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1596
On May 03 2011 20:39 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 densha wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:33 zocktol wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 ChickenLips wrote:
'One of the best Terrans in Korea'

'Amazing TvZ player'

wow, I don't think Tasteless has ever said something more wrong, and everything he does is plugging sponsor / parrotting Artosis / saying wrong things about SC2 24/7.


Explain, why he is wrong please.


He won the first game with an all-in, the second with another all-in, and the third he predictably went marine/tank on a very marine/tank friendly map. Nothing "amazing", nothing there that makes him one of the best Terrans, etc. I honestly don't know what Tasteless was thinking saying that so many times.


So let me get this right, you think the rightful winner should be the guy who lost to "all-ins" twice in a row, and then failed to defend vs a very predictable strategy.

Yeah.. that sounds about right.

No he's just saying SC isn't good, especially on what he showed us today.

Losira played pretty poorly (his micro was very poor today), but that's makes SC's 'accomplishment' even less since he beat someone not playing well.

No one is saying Losira played better, he so did not. If anyone is saying that they should punish themselves by rewatching that series.
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1597
On May 03 2011 20:37 Samhax wrote:
Sc is good, but he has shown nothing special about his TvZ, just abusive play and Losira did many mistakes. He was the better player today, no doubt. But when you compare his TvZ with MVP for example, it's night and day, it's not even funny. MVP is the best TvZer in Korea and everything he does is just beautifull, nothing abusive. When he smash a zerg, he outplays him in every ways.


Easy there. MVP has 2raxxed his fair share of zergs back in the day.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1598
On May 03 2011 20:39 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 densha wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:33 zocktol wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 ChickenLips wrote:
'One of the best Terrans in Korea'

'Amazing TvZ player'

wow, I don't think Tasteless has ever said something more wrong, and everything he does is plugging sponsor / parrotting Artosis / saying wrong things about SC2 24/7.


Explain, why he is wrong please.


He won the first game with an all-in, the second with another all-in, and the third he predictably went marine/tank on a very marine/tank friendly map. Nothing "amazing", nothing there that makes him one of the best Terrans, etc. I honestly don't know what Tasteless was thinking saying that so many times.


So let me get this right, you think the rightful winner should be the guy who lost to "all-ins" twice in a row, and then failed to defend vs a very predictable strategy.

Yeah.. that sounds about right.


No, I'm saying doing two all-ins and playing predictably (and not even *well*) doesn't constitute being "one of the best TvZ" players in the world or whatever Tasteless said to that effect.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
rawrjaaaaay
Profile Joined March 2011
United States426 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1599
Didn't Losira say he chose Zerg because they were easy to micro, and he could just attack command with them? In Artosis' interview, right? People need to stop the QQ and just play the game. Obviously sC outplayed Losira. Otherwise, he wouldn't have 3-0'd him.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
evsky
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1600
Also Marine walks into a bar, there was no counter
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