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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1601
On May 03 2011 20:40 namedplayer wrote:
Losira overrated?

Possible. It's also possible he just has a weak matchup or had a bad day.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1602
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

User was temp banned for this post.
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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1603
It's a shame you can't roach-ling all-in a terran. Losira should've tried to bling bust or something.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1604
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote:
Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right?



Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either.

How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply?

Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting.

But you seem to have forgotten that sC went all-in during the 2nd game. Basically, Losira's nerves were shot due to the pressure sC put on him during the first 2 games.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1605
On May 03 2011 20:41 evsky wrote:
Also Marine walks into a bar, there was no counter

So obvious, yet I laughed ;>.
It appears I have been chosen.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1606
On May 03 2011 20:37 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:34 Blasterion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Tachion wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 Blasterion wrote:
SC just totally out classed Losira in
A. Multi Aggression -Game 1
B. Early Aggression-Game 2
C. Standard Macro-Game 3

One more Terran Hero has been added to BlasterIon's Terran Hero list

game 3 was not a standard macro game. I dunno why you think it was.

I don't see why it isn't can you please explain to me why that isn't a macro game?

Because Losira basically went all-in speedling with a hidden expansion. That is not standard.

And that's SC's fault how?


He's just responding to the statement that game 3 was "standard macro game", not that sc is an inherently worse player.

Always hate having to read LR threads after any zerg loses unless it was basically Ro32 Code A. Aparantly beyond that Zerg lost because the other player wasn't better than them???

It's a harsh world of tournaments people. If you lose, you are instantly worse than that player because you were unable to pass them. No point going around with hypotheticals when anyone backing the winning player can just basically point to the games lost as hard 100% irrefutable evidence.

I'll probably close the LR thread on Thursday when Nestea plays just because it actually begins to tick me of considerably how blinded people are when a favourite loses (somehow worse if it's Zerg).
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1607
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote:
Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right?



Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either.

How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply?

Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting. But after seeing how 2 rax pressure went really well in game 2 I cant really blame him.


Whenever I see someone start an analysis with how a GSL game went with the words "Any bronze...", I know to not take it seriously. Some people have some seriously skewed perceptions of how good these players are.
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1608
it seemed like losira just wasn't on his game at all today
dusthoof
Profile Joined August 2010
279 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1609
I never thought that SC can take this match 3:0. Sry SC
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1610
On May 03 2011 20:39 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 covetousrat wrote:
I still feel sangho isnt a finalist material yet. His plays still has lots of holes.


Agreed. Honestly I think the remainder of the players in this GSL just feel a little weak for finals candidates, but I'm not sure who I would really want to replace them. It might be a few GSLs before there's a new set of people who I'm really comfortable talking about as truly S-class players. I'll still bow down to MC and MVP(and possibly a few others depending on how well they're truly playing) but at this point I think everyone's ready to see some other truly top level player emerge and actually succeed.

Also I think most people want it to be a zerg


MMA and Bomber will be coming up from Code A quite soon.
mitthrawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany443 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1611
So all hope is on NesTea?
/o\
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 11:44:35
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1612
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

MKP and MVP both did the exact same stuff multiple times, he has also shown solid play beforehand, which is why he said it I guess.
e; Plus he does extremely well on the ladder so that probably factors into it.
It appears I have been chosen.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1613
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

Sadness or not. It doesn't discredit his statement in anyway. Tasteless is right, and probably knows more about Sc then all of us combined as he gets to meet most of the players anyway. Maybe he's heard from other pros that this is the case? Sc does quite well on the ladder aswell..
hi. big fan.
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1614
On May 03 2011 20:08 greycubed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:06 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:04 Zeon0 wrote:
ZvT still sucks


Not really, it's the most balanced match up.
Tournament results: http://i.imgur.com/eJge4.png
Same thing for Korea: http://i.imgur.com/wpuby.png
http://i.imgur.com/N3ujB.png
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1615
On May 03 2011 20:41 evsky wrote:
Also Marine walks into a bar, there was no counter

Oh god, laughed way to hard about that.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1616
On May 03 2011 20:38 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:36 theMarkovian wrote:
Why is everyone going all "Nada vs. sC"? According to liquipedia, Nada is in the upper bracket (vs. the winner of Inca/Killer) and sC in the lower (vs the winner of Nestea/Anypro). Is everyone wrong, or is liquipedia wrong?

The liquidpedia brackets seem to change every 2nd day... but since Nada and SC both played on the same day, my money is on them meeting in the semis. Also, I seem to recall after the match recap, the bracket was put up and Nada is due to meet sC.

They're not on the same side, you can work out the brackets yourself by looking at the groups
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1617
i feel losira is the better player. game 1 he had bad infestor control losing like 3-4 by having them grouped with his lings. however his response was still really good and he should have held it off. after game 2 really felt he would do a bane bust and he tried and failed bad although even after falling behind continually held off sc off 2 base for the longest time. shame he couldn't advance.
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1618
Some of us just simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that sC murdered terrans in his group. Give the guy a break
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1619
On May 03 2011 20:44 greycubed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:08 greycubed wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:06 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:04 Zeon0 wrote:
ZvT still sucks


Not really, it's the most balanced match up.
Tournament results: http://i.imgur.com/eJge4.png
Same thing for Korea: http://i.imgur.com/wpuby.png

Protoss is so underpowered =(. + Show Spoiler +
j/k don't ban me for this ;>
It appears I have been chosen.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1620
Nada looks closer than ever to winning GSL. How awesome would that be xD
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