On May 03 2011 20:40 namedplayer wrote:
Losira overrated?
Losira overrated?
Possible. It's also possible he just has a weak matchup or had a bad day.
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
May 03 2011 11:41 GMT
#1601
On May 03 2011 20:40 namedplayer wrote: Losira overrated? Possible. It's also possible he just has a weak matchup or had a bad day. | ||
grungust
United States325 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1602
Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits. Game 2: 2 rax scv all in. Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt. In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
Zane
Romania3916 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1603
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Azzur
Australia6254 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1604
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote: On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote: On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote: Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right? Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either. How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply? Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting. But you seem to have forgotten that sC went all-in during the 2nd game. Basically, Losira's nerves were shot due to the pressure sC put on him during the first 2 games. | ||
Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 03 2011 11:42 GMT
#1605
On May 03 2011 20:41 evsky wrote: Also Marine walks into a bar, there was no counter So obvious, yet I laughed ;>. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1606
On May 03 2011 20:37 Blasterion wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2011 20:36 Tachion wrote: On May 03 2011 20:34 Blasterion wrote: On May 03 2011 20:32 Tachion wrote: On May 03 2011 20:32 Blasterion wrote: SC just totally out classed Losira in A. Multi Aggression -Game 1 B. Early Aggression-Game 2 C. Standard Macro-Game 3 One more Terran Hero has been added to BlasterIon's Terran Hero list game 3 was not a standard macro game. I dunno why you think it was. I don't see why it isn't can you please explain to me why that isn't a macro game? Because Losira basically went all-in speedling with a hidden expansion. That is not standard. And that's SC's fault how? He's just responding to the statement that game 3 was "standard macro game", not that sc is an inherently worse player. Always hate having to read LR threads after any zerg loses unless it was basically Ro32 Code A. Aparantly beyond that Zerg lost because the other player wasn't better than them??? It's a harsh world of tournaments people. If you lose, you are instantly worse than that player because you were unable to pass them. No point going around with hypotheticals when anyone backing the winning player can just basically point to the games lost as hard 100% irrefutable evidence. I'll probably close the LR thread on Thursday when Nestea plays just because it actually begins to tick me of considerably how blinded people are when a favourite loses (somehow worse if it's Zerg). | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1607
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote: On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote: On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote: Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right? Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either. How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply? Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting. But after seeing how 2 rax pressure went really well in game 2 I cant really blame him. Whenever I see someone start an analysis with how a GSL game went with the words "Any bronze...", I know to not take it seriously. Some people have some seriously skewed perceptions of how good these players are. | ||
ccHaZaRd
Canada1024 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1608
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dusthoof
279 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1609
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1610
On May 03 2011 20:39 Turgid wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2011 20:36 covetousrat wrote: I still feel sangho isnt a finalist material yet. His plays still has lots of holes. Agreed. Honestly I think the remainder of the players in this GSL just feel a little weak for finals candidates, but I'm not sure who I would really want to replace them. It might be a few GSLs before there's a new set of people who I'm really comfortable talking about as truly S-class players. I'll still bow down to MC and MVP(and possibly a few others depending on how well they're truly playing) but at this point I think everyone's ready to see some other truly top level player emerge and actually succeed. Also I think most people want it to be a zerg ![]() MMA and Bomber will be coming up from Code A quite soon. | ||
mitthrawn
Germany443 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1611
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1612
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote: For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain. Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits. Game 2: 2 rax scv all in. Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt. In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game. MKP and MVP both did the exact same stuff multiple times, he has also shown solid play beforehand, which is why he said it I guess. e; Plus he does extremely well on the ladder so that probably factors into it. | ||
FataLe
New Zealand4483 Posts
May 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#1613
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote: For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain. Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits. Game 2: 2 rax scv all in. Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt. In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game. Sadness or not. It doesn't discredit his statement in anyway. Tasteless is right, and probably knows more about Sc then all of us combined as he gets to meet most of the players anyway. Maybe he's heard from other pros that this is the case? Sc does quite well on the ladder aswell.. | ||
greycubed
United States615 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1614
On May 03 2011 20:08 greycubed wrote: Same thing for Korea: http://i.imgur.com/wpuby.pngShow nested quote + Tournament results: http://i.imgur.com/eJge4.pngOn May 03 2011 20:06 Pajegetc wrote: On May 03 2011 20:04 Zeon0 wrote: ZvT still sucks Not really, it's the most balanced match up. | ||
brentsen
1252 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1615
On May 03 2011 20:41 evsky wrote: Also Marine walks into a bar, there was no counter Oh god, laughed way to hard about that. | ||
hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1616
On May 03 2011 20:38 Azzur wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2011 20:36 theMarkovian wrote: Why is everyone going all "Nada vs. sC"? According to liquipedia, Nada is in the upper bracket (vs. the winner of Inca/Killer) and sC in the lower (vs the winner of Nestea/Anypro). Is everyone wrong, or is liquipedia wrong? The liquidpedia brackets seem to change every 2nd day... but since Nada and SC both played on the same day, my money is on them meeting in the semis. Also, I seem to recall after the match recap, the bracket was put up and Nada is due to meet sC. They're not on the same side, you can work out the brackets yourself by looking at the groups | ||
kvn4444
1510 Posts
May 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#1617
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1618
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1619
On May 03 2011 20:44 greycubed wrote: Show nested quote + Same thing for Korea: http://i.imgur.com/wpuby.pngOn May 03 2011 20:08 greycubed wrote: On May 03 2011 20:06 Pajegetc wrote: Tournament results: http://i.imgur.com/eJge4.pngOn May 03 2011 20:04 Zeon0 wrote: ZvT still sucks Not really, it's the most balanced match up. Protoss is so underpowered =(. + Show Spoiler + j/k don't ban me for this ;> | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 03 2011 11:45 GMT
#1620
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