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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 11:52:12
May 03 2011 11:51 GMT
#1641
On May 03 2011 20:50 Goibon wrote:

Anyone know when roughly the up and down groups are decided?

Actually i'm being dumb, it's after the Code A finals. That's a 2 weeks away isn't it.

Blah


No, that should be this friday

Code A semis are tomorrow

Code S r8 day2 Thursday

Code A finals on Friday + up & down groups

Code S semis Saturday
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
May 03 2011 11:52 GMT
#1642
On May 03 2011 20:50 Orpheusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 Seditary wrote:
I always love the overreactions one BoX between two players brings out in LR threads. Its like watching a herd of sheep run across a minefield.


The shitstorm that will ensue if anypro beats nestea will be even better.

Anypro 3-0ing Nestea with 3 all-ins. I can't even begin to think about it.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4519 Posts
May 03 2011 11:52 GMT
#1643
On May 03 2011 20:50 T.Probe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:37 HyunA1 wrote:
Why is it that I sense 99% of QQ'ers in this thread play zerg?

If it's not cheese that you're crying about, it's something about your race. When a zerg wins, it's "perfect play" that outplays his opponent.


Its funny how people imply that the majority of people who play zerg are qq'ers by nature. The reason why so many zerg's qq must be because there must be an issue in balance with the race.

Or because they have a role model who shares his opinions freely.

Not that, that discredits what he's saying. But most of these Zergs are just sheep. Whether the game has become balanced or not. They'll blame a Zerg's loss on imbalance 'till their idol says it isn't so.

Sorry If I'm coming across strong :\
hi. big fan.
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1644
On May 03 2011 20:46 realstarcrafter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

User was temp banned for this post.

Wow, got banned for this post? Good job.


so people get banned for being unimpressed with SC now...?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1645
On May 03 2011 20:52 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 Orpheusz wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:50 Seditary wrote:
I always love the overreactions one BoX between two players brings out in LR threads. Its like watching a herd of sheep run across a minefield.


The shitstorm that will ensue if anypro beats nestea will be even better.

Anypro 3-0ing Nestea with 3 all-ins. I can't even begin to think about it.

Even though I want Nestea to win, I'll literally LOL if this happens...
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 11:53:56
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1646
sC is easily one of the best terrans in Korea (and thus the world), sC has the RESULTS (Top4 in the GSL!) to prove it. When results rule , everything else is just QQ.
*burp*
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1647
i still think losira is the better player, and i think sc basically was admitting that by the way he played. not to take anything away from him, he knew what he had to do if he was going to win and he did it.

basically, if losira was playing his most practiced style and the same for sc, losira would have owned him... IMO
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1648
On May 03 2011 20:50 Orpheusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 Seditary wrote:
I always love the overreactions one BoX between two players brings out in LR threads. Its like watching a herd of sheep run across a minefield.


The shitstorm that will ensue if anypro beats nestea will be even better.

If he does it with heavy warpgate pressure, definitely
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Apollonius
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
May 03 2011 11:53 GMT
#1649
I loved the games today, and sC clearly played better, whether it is the case that LosirA was better or not.

However,

when BW players rage about this series, they complain that
1) in SC1, terran was the "hardest" race to execute and play at a high level, but if played correctly, it was a monster (see: BoxeR, NaDa, oov, Flash, etc)
2) in SC2, zerg requires more multitasking and management, yet offers no real advantage if played correctly (Nestea, FD, July, and Losira win at even rates almost)

though I do hate this bunker rush crap, and hope sincerely that it one day gets eradicated from the game (either by zerg improvement or terran evolution), the "SC2 folks" seem to be arguing almost baselessly against it...
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 11:56:18
May 03 2011 11:54 GMT
#1650
On May 03 2011 20:53 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:46 realstarcrafter wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

User was temp banned for this post.

Wow, got banned for this post? Good job.


so people get banned for being unimpressed with SC now...?

no people get banned for being whiners, many have perished before him, many are perishing now, and many more whiner will perish after him, it's a never ending battle. But as long as they keep on coming the mods will keep on banning

PS-I always wanted to say that
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realstarcrafter
Profile Joined March 2011
92 Posts
May 03 2011 11:54 GMT
#1651
On May 03 2011 20:45 Goibon wrote:
I actually thought Zerg were doing better than Terran lately

Kinda surprised to see those graphs tbh.

Only 22 zergs in the top 100 on Korean ladder, not so surprising I guess
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 03 2011 11:54 GMT
#1652
On May 03 2011 20:53 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 Orpheusz wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:50 Seditary wrote:
I always love the overreactions one BoX between two players brings out in LR threads. Its like watching a herd of sheep run across a minefield.


The shitstorm that will ensue if anypro beats nestea will be even better.

If he does it with heavy warpgate pressure, definitely

To be honest, he could not make anything but probes for 30 minutes and people would still complain it was an all-in.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 03 2011 11:54 GMT
#1653
On May 03 2011 20:52 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 T.Probe wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:37 HyunA1 wrote:
Why is it that I sense 99% of QQ'ers in this thread play zerg?

If it's not cheese that you're crying about, it's something about your race. When a zerg wins, it's "perfect play" that outplays his opponent.


Its funny how people imply that the majority of people who play zerg are qq'ers by nature. The reason why so many zerg's qq must be because there must be an issue in balance with the race.

Or because they have a role model who shares his opinions freely.

Not that, that discredits what he's saying. But most of these Zergs are just sheep. Whether the game has become balanced or not. They'll blame a Zerg's loss on imbalance 'till their idol says it isn't so.

Sorry If I'm coming across strong :\




very nice of you to to not say zerg players are qq's by nature but they behave like sheeps by nature... LOL
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 03 2011 11:55 GMT
#1654
On May 03 2011 20:53 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:46 realstarcrafter wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

User was temp banned for this post.

Wow, got banned for this post? Good job.


so people get banned for being unimpressed with SC now...?

It was a balance whine because instead of saying Losira just handled perfectly valid strategies poorly, he implied the game was broken
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 03 2011 11:55 GMT
#1655
On May 03 2011 20:51 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:50 Goibon wrote:

Anyone know when roughly the up and down groups are decided?

Actually i'm being dumb, it's after the Code A finals. That's a 2 weeks away isn't it.

Blah


No, that should be this friday

Code A semis are tomorrow

Code S r8 day2 Thursday

Code A finals on Friday + up & down groups

Code S semis Saturday

Yeah almost. Just went to Gom side, up and downs start on the 9th, which is what, Monday week? Didn't expect it to be that soon! >_<

We're gonna get some evil evil groups, i can feel it. Some really tip top Code A players are gonna be up against MKP and MC.

Life isn't fair
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
May 03 2011 11:55 GMT
#1656
On May 03 2011 20:53 Parcelleus wrote:
sC is easily one of the best terrans in Korea (and thus the world), sC has the RESULTS (Top4 in the GSL!) to prove it. When results rule , everything else is just QQ.

one tourney result isn't proof enough. it definitely gives him a ton of cred, but its not the most accurate thing possible... *cough* MVP *cough* MC *cough*
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 03 2011 11:56 GMT
#1657
On May 03 2011 20:53 Apollonius wrote:
I loved the games today, and sC clearly played better, whether it is the case that LosirA was better or not.

However,

when BW players rage about this series, they complain that
1) in SC1, terran was the "hardest" race to execute and play at a high level, but if played correctly, it was a monster (see: BoxeR, NaDa, oov, Flash, etc)
2) in SC2, zerg requires more multitasking and management, yet offers no real advantage if played correctly (Nestea, FD, July, and Losira win at even rates almost)

though I do hate this bunker rush crap, and hope sincerely that it one day gets eradicated from the game (either by zerg improvement or terran evolution), the "SC2 folks" seem to be arguing almost baselessly against it...


Totally agree with you man.
Play your best
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 03 2011 11:56 GMT
#1658
On May 03 2011 20:51 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:39 Cheerio wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:32 isM wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:31 Mercury- wrote:
Yeah, sC can't win any standard games, right?



Frankly with how poor his engagements were in that game he shouldn't have won, but Losira didn't play very well either.

How about outplaying Losira so badly in the early game that he could afford to lose that much stuff, and macro so well that even after the 3rd time it happened, he was still way ahead in supply?

Oh please. Any bronze can use fake 2 rax pressure into FE build. It wasnt sc outplaying, it was Losira overreacting. But after seeing how 2 rax pressure went really well in game 2 I cant really blame him.


Whenever I see someone start an analysis with how a GSL game went with the words "Any bronze...", I know to not take it seriously. Some people have some seriously skewed perceptions of how good these players are.

Players are good, but some of the things they do are as easy as they can possibly be, they are merely humans.


Except you forget that sC did that knowing LosirA would be afraid of it, given how the first two games went. You completely ignore the element of strategy in how you can play mindgames on your opponent based off of previous matches, obviously something that doesn't occur in the bronze league, or any other league for that matter. You don't just take what a player did and look at it in the context of the game alone; you look at it in the context of the entire match.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 03 2011 11:56 GMT
#1659
On May 03 2011 20:53 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 20:46 realstarcrafter wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:42 grungust wrote:
For all you terrans out there who don't understand why we are questioning tasteless remarks let me explain.

Game 1: 2 base all in where you literally rally bio and do some splits.
Game 2: 2 rax scv all in.
Game 3: 2 rax fake into FE. Losira decides to all in, but as a zerg on CROSSFIRE this is quite common because of how imbalanced that map is for zvt.

In conclusion I don't see how this proves anything, especially the bold remarks tasteless made. If these games are the criteria for being "One of the best Terrans in Korea" or "Amazing TvZ player" then that speaks to a sadness of the state of this game.

User was temp banned for this post.

Wow, got banned for this post? Good job.


so people get banned for being unimpressed with SC now...?

balance whining is not equals to being unimpressed with SC
realstarcrafter
Profile Joined March 2011
92 Posts
May 03 2011 11:56 GMT
#1660
On May 03 2011 20:53 SxYSpAz wrote:
i still think losira is the better player, and i think sc basically was admitting that by the way he played. not to take anything away from him, he knew what he had to do if he was going to win and he did it.

basically, if losira was playing his most practiced style and the same for sc, losira would have owned him... IMO

Unfortunately that's how you play in tournaments. That's why zerg isn't the strongest in tournaments, they have less ways to all-in.
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