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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:25 Dante08 wrote: Boxer the only Korean left, who'd have thought of that :p Go boxer! I remember before TSL started and people where making predictions, seemed like there was a consensus that all the Koreans were gonna roll everybody, except Boxer. He was predicted to be the only one that might lose to a foreigner. He's the only one left, that's so ironic. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:27 Qaatar wrote: - No he didn't. - Not hard to do. No one other than idiots are trying to denigrate Thorzain's accomplishments. HE played great - that's all there is to it. Using words like "amazing skill" and "one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history" to describe this, however, is going a bit too far. Reminds me of all of the fawning Boxer is getting for simply winning these days, while exhibiting laughably bad mechanics at times. If you didn't think game 4 was one of the greatest matches in SC2 history, which game qualifies as such? Pretty sure everyone else will be able to pinpoint mistakes and flaws in any games you will mention. For such a short time this game has been on, that game 4 was as good as they come. | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
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Orpheusz
Australia210 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:30 nihlon wrote: Thorzain had weeks to prepare against MC. Kas got a few hours in todays lan. That's the biggest difference, not the "LAN is so much more meaningful because of the increased pressure on the players." To be fair, the same can be said for MC, heck his GSL group was fairly terran heavy and I'm willing to bet that MC has a ton more time to practice than Thorzain. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:13 Seagull_ wrote: MC had the units, he just didn't know the critical little trick where you can lift your own immortals with your phoenix which cancels strike cannons. Imagine if he had done that and rolled thorzain, he'd look absolutely amazing. Nice "trick" to get immortals/phoenix shot at for 10seconds by 8 thors who are getting repaired. This strat has been tried and fails too. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:30 TheBanana wrote: I remember before TSL started and people where making predictions, seemed like there was a consensus that all the Koreans were gonna roll everybody, except Boxer. He was predicted to be the only one that might lose to a foreigner. He's the only one left, that's so ironic. Well he hasn't played yet in this round, so it's not really fair to judge how well he did vs MC. If MC played in day 2 and Boxer lost today, then MC would be "the last Korean left" for 1 more day -.- | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:30 nihlon wrote: Thorzain had weeks to prepare against MC. Kas got a few hours in todays lan. That's the biggest difference, not the "LAN is so much more meaningful because of the increased pressure on the players." I wouldn't say that LAN is more meaningful as long as the connections are the same, but there is a huge added element of being able to play in a foreign environment, far from the comforts of one's own home. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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MUFFINS1
United States533 Posts
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On April 24 2011 06:40 OneOther wrote: Are you fucking serious? Why can't you appreciate the fact that a relatively unknown foreign player takes out two former GSL champions in FruitDealer and MC through extremely entertaining games? What is wrong with hyping this? Back in the days we couldn't even fathom with the idea of even the best foreigner beating a top Korean. Thorzain is doing something truly special, and I really don't get what your problem is. It deserves the hype. He has earned it. Thorzain played better today. However, I don't see why foreigners are so proud of defeating Koreans in SC2? People couldn't fathom beating a top korean at BW, not SC2. Why does everyone act like it's the biggest upset in the world when a Korean loses in SC2? I'm genuinely baffled. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:32 Ocedic wrote: Well he hasn't played yet in this round, so it's not really fair to judge how well he did vs MC. If MC played in day 2 and Boxer lost today, then MC would be "the last Korean left" for 1 more day -.- It's not judged against MC, it's judged against the predictions. Boxer getting to this stage alone makes it ironic even if MC was still in. It just makes it more so now that he's out aswell. And we can actually say Boxer is the only Korean left instead of being the only upset. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:30 nihlon wrote: Thorzain had weeks to prepare against MC. Kas got a few hours in todays lan. That's the biggest difference, not the "LAN is so much more meaningful because of the increased pressure on the players." And MC played pretty bad first two with weird expansions and no upgrades instead of usual 4/5/6 gate pressure. Last game is the only thing I question since there is no counter other than not let terran build it.. not saying that's a bad thing either. Some builds should be unstoppable. | ||
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MosART
United States1899 Posts
Game 4 is just soo good, almost BWish. This is the type of games I am looking for in SC2. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:27 Qaatar wrote: - No he didn't. - Not hard to do. No one other than idiots are trying to denigrate Thorzain's accomplishments. HE played great - that's all there is to it. Using words like "amazing skill" and "one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history" to describe this, however, is going a bit too far. Reminds me of all of the fawning Boxer is getting for simply winning these days, while exhibiting laughably bad mechanics at times . Difference is Boxer would never win a Bo5 against MC | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:31 dtz wrote: If you didn't think game 4 was one of the greatest matches in SC2 history, which game qualifies as such? Pretty sure everyone else will be able to pinpoint mistakes and flaws in any games you will mention. For such a short time this game has been on, that game 4 was as good as they come. Right, and I can come back with the example that one game doesn't mean anything. Everyone was going crazy over the game Squirtle played against mvp. What's he doing now? I wasn't saying that individually, a couple of the games weren't great. I was merely point out that the EXTRAPOLATION some people are using, in order to magnify the overall skill level of players based on one or a couple of games, is idiotic. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:36 K3Nyy wrote: I feel like MC didn't really get outplayed, it's just that he didn't upgrade his units. upgrades are part of the game lad. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:31 dtz wrote: If you didn't think game 4 was one of the greatest matches in SC2 history, which game qualifies as such? Pretty sure everyone else will be able to pinpoint mistakes and flaws in any games you will mention. For such a short time this game has been on, that game 4 was as good as they come. Yeah, I really want to know what matches he's been seeing, they sound amazing. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:37 Qaatar wrote: Right, and I can come back with the example that one game doesn't mean anything. Everyone was going crazy over the game Squirtle played against mvp. What's he doing now? I wasn't saying that individually, a couple of the games weren't great. I was merely point out that the EXTRAPOLATION some people are using, in order to magnify the overall skill level of players based on one or a couple of games, is idiotic. That was a Bo1, this was a Bo5 and Thorzain impressed in his other TSL games as well. | ||
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