• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:17
CEST 17:17
KST 00:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202533Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced49BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 645 users

[TSL] Ro8 Day 1 - Page 320

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 318 319 320 321 322 333 Next
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
April 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#6381
Hmmm, that last game, it wasn't even an all-in right? Thorzain had secured his 3rd, and he still just rolled with 1 attack.. amazing...
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
April 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#6382
On April 24 2011 07:17 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I have to say it wouldn't be close if not for lag.

MC relies a lot on his micro and it was clearly weak in that series. The forcefeidls and storms were hilariously bad at some points.


There needs to be like a ban filter for shit like this.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
April 23 2011 22:20 GMT
#6383
On April 24 2011 07:17 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I have to say it wouldn't be close if not for lag.

MC relies a lot on his micro and it was clearly weak in that series. The forcefeidls and storms were hilariously bad at some points.


mc and thor both played in europe on eu-server ...
Niruz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
April 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#6384
On April 24 2011 07:17 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I have to say it wouldn't be close if not for lag.

MC relies a lot on his micro and it was clearly weak in that series. The forcefeidls and storms were hilariously bad at some points.

MC played in europe, and he played like shit, Thorzain is god.
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
April 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#6385
oGsMC does not need anyone making excuses for him. He played great. MC had plenty of time, and all the replays he needed from Thorzain's match with Tyler to study Thorzain's TvP, as well as the "THOR BUILD."

Thorzain didn't use any gimmicky strats, or special unknown builds. 3 games he used standard BIO builds. 1 game he tried a 1 base Rine/Tank/banshee build, and the last game he used his patented Thor build, that MC must have studied, or deserved to lose for lack of preperation.

Lets not downgrade Thorzain's performance with pettiness. He played very standard TvP, and simply outplayed MC. He exhibited mechanics the equal of MC, and enough variety to not be a 1 trick pony. His victory was Impressive, and will go down as one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history.

Congratulations to both for giving TSL a thoroughly exciting match, with amazing skill and excitment.
Fralse
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden44 Posts
April 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#6386
On April 24 2011 07:18 Infernus wrote:
Can't wait for the VODs to come out! Can't believe I missed it today


well thats bad! great about the vods tho some epic games tonight for sure, dont wanna miss them
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#6387
On April 24 2011 07:19 Karakaxe wrote:
Hmmm, that last game, it wasn't even an all-in right? Thorzain had secured his 3rd, and he still just rolled with 1 attack.. amazing...


Mech play is all-innish because if you lose your army it takes forever to get them back and you can't really retreat with slow Thors. But I'd say that Thorzain was planning ahead and could afford to since his build is gas-heavy and floats a lot of minerals.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#6388
On April 24 2011 07:16 dubRa wrote:
Thorzain's next step: 14cc double armory 2+2 timing attack.

This sounds familiar... oh shi!



No need for that, carriers suck in SC2.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 23 2011 22:23 GMT
#6389
Technically because there is no LAN. There was actually lag. This explains all!....
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 22:26:27
April 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#6390
Boxer the only Korean left, who'd have thought of that :p
Go boxer!
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
April 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#6391
On April 24 2011 06:40 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:37 jalstar wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:35 OneOther wrote:
I hate how people like jalstar are derailing this thread away from what Thorzain has done and how entertaining the series was. Shut up dude. Nobody cares whether you think MC is a better player, or how badly Thorzain is going to lose to Kas. Jesus.


Stop overhyping players who have done nearly nothing that completely underhyped players (MKP, Polt) have done as well. The pro-foreigner bias is crazy.

Are you fucking serious? Why can't you appreciate the fact that a relatively unknown foreign player takes out two former GSL champions in FruitDealer and MC through extremely entertaining games? What is wrong with hyping this? Back in the days we couldn't even fathom with the idea of even the best foreigner beating a top Korean. Thorzain is doing something truly special, and I really don't get what your problem is. It deserves the hype. He has earned it.


I wonder if he would've talked like this back when foreigners took games off of koreans in bw, the community these days makes me sad.
Hi.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#6392
On April 24 2011 07:17 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I have to say it wouldn't be close if not for lag.

MC relies a lot on his micro and it was clearly weak in that series. The forcefeidls and storms were hilariously bad at some points.


They were both in Europe when they played. Your thoughts are irrelevant.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#6393
On April 24 2011 07:21 mholden02 wrote:
oGsMC does not need anyone making excuses for him. He played great. MC had plenty of time, and all the replays he needed from Thorzain's match with Tyler to study Thorzain's TvP, as well as the "THOR BUILD."

Thorzain didn't use any gimmicky strats, or special unknown builds. 3 games he used standard BIO builds. 1 game he tried a 1 base Rine/Tank/banshee build, and the last game he used his patented Thor build, that MC must have studied, or deserved to lose for lack of preperation.

Lets not downgrade Thorzain's performance with pettiness. He played very standard TvP, and simply outplayed MC. He exhibited mechanics the equal of MC, and enough variety to not be a 1 trick pony. His victory was Impressive, and will go down as one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history.

Congratulations to both for giving TSL a thoroughly exciting match, with amazing skill and excitment.

This is so true. MC's I think took Thor to lightly - seems to be a reoccurring problem with him and probably didn't study, but then again can't win them all, and Thor played fantastic.
MC for president
Bluedraqy
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark496 Posts
April 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#6394
On April 24 2011 07:25 Dante08 wrote:
Who would have thought boxer would be the only Korean left at this point

Yeah, he was considered the second weakest korean in the tournament, but he's shown vast improvements throughout the duration of this tournament, but we will see
Orpheusz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia210 Posts
April 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#6395
On April 24 2011 07:21 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 07:19 Karakaxe wrote:
Hmmm, that last game, it wasn't even an all-in right? Thorzain had secured his 3rd, and he still just rolled with 1 attack.. amazing...


Mech play is all-innish because if you lose your army it takes forever to get them back and you can't really retreat with slow Thors. But I'd say that Thorzain was planning ahead and could afford to since his build is gas-heavy and floats a lot of minerals.


Pretty much the same concept as toss deathballs then, I wouldn't really call it allinish for that reason.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 23 2011 22:27 GMT
#6396
On April 24 2011 07:21 mholden02 wrote:
oGsMC does not need anyone making excuses for him. He played great. MC had plenty of time, and all the replays he needed from Thorzain's match with Tyler to study Thorzain's TvP, as well as the "THOR BUILD."

Thorzain didn't use any gimmicky strats, or special unknown builds. 3 games he used standard BIO builds. 1 game he tried a 1 base Rine/Tank/banshee build, and the last game he used his patented Thor build, that MC must have studied, or deserved to lose for lack of preperation.

Lets not downgrade Thorzain's performance with pettiness. He played very standard TvP, and simply outplayed MC. He exhibited mechanics the equal of MC, and enough variety to not be a 1 trick pony. His victory was Impressive, and will go down as one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history.

Congratulations to both for giving TSL a thoroughly exciting match, with amazing skill and excitment.


- No he didn't.

- Not hard to do.

No one other than idiots are trying to denigrate Thorzain's accomplishments. HE played great - that's all there is to it. Using words like "amazing skill" and "one of the greatest matches thus far in SC2 history" to describe this, however, is going a bit too far.

Reminds me of all of the fawning Boxer is getting for simply winning these days, while exhibiting laughably bad mechanics at times.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 23 2011 22:28 GMT
#6397
On April 24 2011 07:26 Bluedraqy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 07:25 Dante08 wrote:
Who would have thought boxer would be the only Korean left at this point

Yeah, he was considered the second weakest korean in the tournament, but he's shown vast improvements throughout the duration of this tournament, but we will see

"Don't be a heretic" in 2 steps:
1. Never count The Emperor out
2. Never, ever count The Emperor out
Dawn11
Profile Joined October 2010
73 Posts
April 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#6398
so only 1 invitee in the tournament? gotta love this invite system ;-)
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#6399
Thorzain had weeks to prepare against MC. Kas got a few hours in todays lan. That's the biggest difference, not the "LAN is so much more meaningful because of the increased pressure on the players."
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Bluedraqy
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 22:31:12
April 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#6400
On April 24 2011 07:28 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 07:26 Bluedraqy wrote:
On April 24 2011 07:25 Dante08 wrote:
Who would have thought boxer would be the only Korean left at this point

Yeah, he was considered the second weakest korean in the tournament, but he's shown vast improvements throughout the duration of this tournament, but we will see

"Don't be a heretic" in 2 steps:
1. Never count The Emperor out
2. Never, ever count The Emperor out


I regret ever doubting the emperor, my head shall be chopped off by dawn, for my blasphemy
Prev 1 318 319 320 321 322 333 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
12:00
Playoff - Day 1/2
Mihu vs ZhanhunLIVE!
Fengzi vs Dewalt
ZZZero.O213
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko504
JuggernautJason77
ForJumy 49
goblin 40
MindelVK 21
SpeCial 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 50825
Jaedong 2515
BeSt 1356
Mini 1193
Larva 677
ggaemo 564
Soma 471
ToSsGirL 351
firebathero 305
Rush 227
[ Show more ]
ZZZero.O 213
hero 187
Nal_rA 154
Zeus 118
TY 104
Mong 82
ajuk12(nOOB) 40
Terrorterran 14
HiyA 12
Rock 12
Dota 2
Gorgc4765
qojqva2841
420jenkins1641
XcaliburYe292
League of Legends
Reynor87
Counter-Strike
fl0m2897
ScreaM1176
sgares258
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor420
Liquid`Hasu341
Other Games
singsing2215
B2W.Neo1349
Hui .412
byalli329
Trikslyr26
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Gemini_19 82
• poizon28 16
• Reevou 9
• sitaska4
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• Michael_bg 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3945
• Nemesis1963
• WagamamaTV708
League of Legends
• Jankos1436
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
43m
ShoWTimE vs Harstem
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
ByuN vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
18h 43m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
22h 43m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d
Wardi Open
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.