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On April 24 2011 06:59 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 06:57 Niruz wrote:On April 24 2011 06:54 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 06:49 phisku wrote:On April 24 2011 06:43 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 06:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:On April 24 2011 06:36 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 06:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:On April 24 2011 06:33 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 06:31 JWD wrote:
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Guy loses 3-2 in extremely hard fought back-and-forth series, is "clearly the better player". Love it! Other than the strategic blunders, yes. How do you think it was a close series despite those blunders? How can someone be "clearly the better player" if they make several strategic blunders? OTHER THAN THEM. God, how many times do I need to rewrite that? His micro/macro etc were better. His builds, upgrade timing etc were not at all. Sorry, I did miss that part. In that case it's kind of a poor way to put it, why not say that Thorzain had much better builds and upgrades while MC had better micro/macro? That seems less likely to draw fire from the internet and doesn't take away from Thorzain's ability as a player. Sorry ^_^ Thorzain came up with great builds, I'm not taking anything from him. However I haven't found his mechanics notable (not bad, just not notable) so I don't know how he'll hold up once people adapt. In particular how will he do against people who upgrade early and don't respond badly to funky builds? wait what? He had +2/+2 even under harassement and kept his macro going, isn't that good mechanic? Uhm it's not really indicative of anything? It's not hard to get upgrades :/ Anyway I didn't say his mechanics were bad at all, I said not notable. Many players have similar solid mechanics. Not many have MC's mechanics. MC sure had awesome mechanics, having 0 upgrades for half the games and apart from the tal'darim game he had subpar macro, and I'd like to see anyone under hard pressure still pump out scvs and upgrades which requires you to not queue a shitton of units but still have enough to defend, while microing his army to defend against said pressure Exactly. Out of all of the top Koreans I can think of right now, MC's mechanics are probably the WORST. Seriously...his micro is impressive, but his multi-tasking and macro aren't close to the best. I can literally think of 10 Koreans who have better mechanics off the top of my head.
Watch the replay and watch the minerals count. He was going for so many tech so he cant afford to get upgrades. While thorzain was getting just 1 types of unit composition. Either bio or mech, so he could afford upgrade. If MC has gas floating around, then he is not utilising it, which mean bad multitasing and macro. BUT, he use them all, so it is definitely bad decision making on how to spend it, rather then bad macro/multitasking. he respond to drop almost instantly.
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What are they drinking in Sweden? TERRAN JUICE?
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On April 22 2011 13:17 motbob wrote: MC 3-0 PoltPrime 2raxed MC twice and now people are picking Thorzain to win all of a sudden? Come on. MC is still the best player in the world and Thorzain just played a TvP series against Tyler that MC can study. This isn't going to be close.
orly?
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On April 24 2011 06:50 dark fury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 06:49 gnutz wrote:On April 24 2011 06:48 dark fury wrote:
whats the deal with kas hype? he is getting smacked by MC right now while thorzain was able to take MC down. He is basically unexperienced in LAN-Events. He play normally way better than this. oh, so he is really a young talent? when did he arise to the pro-scene? must have missed him completley
Kas
Main Achievements:
41 entries, 3 pages
Achievements, he has them.
Think it's the most of anyone in sc2 to date, just that it's all online stuff and EU online stuff usually features good players. This is his what second lan? in Sc2 think he was at assembly not sure.
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On April 24 2011 07:01 StyLeD wrote:It's alot harder to find a link in another language. You ever tried to look for a non-english song you heard on the radio\? Good luck with that.
Ya because English is first language for everyone on TL. And MC doesn't speak English. And he hasn't got any friends among foreigners. (sarcasm)
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Why is Artosis so handsome?!  Cant wait for tomorrow, more Artosis ftw!
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Oh man I'm so happy that Thorzain won. I really don't like MC's personality because of how cocky and overconfident he is, and I really love Thorzain because he is really playing solid these days. I hope he wins the whole thing.
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On April 24 2011 07:05 Kentakky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 06:50 dark fury wrote:On April 24 2011 06:49 gnutz wrote:On April 24 2011 06:48 dark fury wrote:
whats the deal with kas hype? he is getting smacked by MC right now while thorzain was able to take MC down. He is basically unexperienced in LAN-Events. He play normally way better than this. oh, so he is really a young talent? when did he arise to the pro-scene? must have missed him completley Kas Main Achievements: 41 entries, 3 pages Achievements, he has them. Think it's the most of anyone in sc2 to date, just that it's all online stuff and EU online stuff usually features good players. This is his what second lan? in Sc2 think he was at assembly not sure.
I think he was at the ''IEM european championship'' also, the tourny/lan which Sjow won afaik
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On April 24 2011 07:01 StyLeD wrote:It's alot harder to find a link in another language. You ever tried to look for a non-english song you heard on the radio\? Good luck with that.
Stop making excuses for MC.
Really, just stop. He got outplayed, and you should get over it.
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On April 24 2011 06:40 raga4ka wrote:
I think mass Voidrays counter this Thor strategy in the last game .
There is no counter there is a thread in strat about it. VR's get wreaked by repairing thors who do splash. Zealots /stalkers can't do any damage to +3 armored up thor. Immortals get wrecked with cannon. HT used to be counter but mana bar was removed.
Counter is not letting terran get mass thor with a WG push.
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Really did not expect thorzain to play so well, was great to see.
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On April 24 2011 07:07 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 06:40 raga4ka wrote:
I think mass Voidrays counter this Thor strategy in the last game . There is no counter there is a thread in strat about it. VR's get wreaked by repairing thors who do splash. Zealots /stalkers can't do any damage to +3 armored up thor. Immortals get wrecked with cannon. HT used to be counter but mana bar was removed. Counter is not letting terran get mass thor with a WG push.
Sounds like PvZ...
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On April 24 2011 07:09 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 07:07 tdt wrote:On April 24 2011 06:40 raga4ka wrote:
I think mass Voidrays counter this Thor strategy in the last game . There is no counter there is a thread in strat about it. VR's get wreaked by repairing thors who do splash. Zealots /stalkers can't do any damage to +3 armored up thor. Immortals get wrecked with cannon. HT used to be counter but mana bar was removed. Counter is not letting terran get mass thor with a WG push. Sounds like PvZ...
There is justice in SC2 after all.
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Thorzain is god damn good, but hes weak in TvT and Kas is a monster in TvT  its gonna be really tough for thorzain
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need to fix the results page, it only shows the first 4 games of mc vs thorzain
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On April 24 2011 07:09 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 07:07 tdt wrote:On April 24 2011 06:40 raga4ka wrote:
I think mass Voidrays counter this Thor strategy in the last game . There is no counter there is a thread in strat about it. VR's get wreaked by repairing thors who do splash. Zealots /stalkers can't do any damage to +3 armored up thor. Immortals get wrecked with cannon. HT used to be counter but mana bar was removed. Counter is not letting terran get mass thor with a WG push. Sounds like PvZ...
early pressure? and i mean not only pocking at the front.
especially on crossfire with the backdoor.
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Bahahaha. I've been saying factories > Protoss for ages, reading all the 'lol thorzain throwing last game' 'MC autowin' posts is so satisfying. :D
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Awesome games between Thorzain and MC
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Epic series between Thorzain and MC. I gotta hand it to Thorzain, he played amazing, just as he does in all of his TSL games.
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On April 24 2011 07:05 27raven wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 07:01 StyLeD wrote:It's alot harder to find a link in another language. You ever tried to look for a non-english song you heard on the radio\? Good luck with that. Ya because English is first language for everyone on TL. And MC doesn't speak English. And he hasn't got any friends among foreigners. (sarcasm)
and all of those show his momentary tvp style... oh just 2 tvp from the 09.01.2011...
so yeah it was clearly easy to get some replays (sarcasrm)
(if you want to prove someone wrong, do it the right way...)
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