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HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 12:47:41
May 21 2011 12:46 GMT
#1281
is this Nv.xiaOt the same guy as the wc3 xiaot?




On May 21 2011 14:19 Dexington wrote:
China <3's Protoss i guess,

Wouldn't be surprised to see an all P SF

For a sec i thought you wrote Pis SF .. lol ( dota )
kenken_xia
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
May 21 2011 14:27 GMT
#1282
On May 21 2011 21:46 HelloxD wrote:
is this Nv.xiaOt the same guy as the wc3 xiaot?



Yep, the same guy
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
May 21 2011 15:35 GMT
#1283
Rooting for MC!
Protosser
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
May 22 2011 06:13 GMT
#1284
The Chinese players really impressed me, hopefully they play some international events as well.
CWL
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 10:07:53
May 22 2011 10:00 GMT
#1285
On May 21 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
I really hate how during TSL the foreign community was fast to dismiss and pretty quick to dis-acknowledge the issue of lag in cross realm play and how it could have adversely affected the Korean stars' gameplay. Instead, a lot of our European (those Swedes . . ) jumped to the conclusion that EU > KR.

Now the foreigners are pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that "oh the Chinese are doing well because they have lag advantage" (which is actually a flat out lie)

Hmm . . quite the double standard here.

The Koreans (for the most part) played like crap in the TSL. The Chinese played amazingly in Starswar. The foreign community needs to stop being so pathetic.


Well, it's not really a double standard because both sides of the issues have been discussed in the TSL as well. Fans of any sport are quick to find reasons or excuses for why their favorite players win or lose games.

The Koreans lost in TSL 3 because:
(1a) The Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag issues caused crappy play
(2) The foreigners played amazing

The foreigners and Koreans lost to the Chinese in StarsWar 6 because:
(1a) The foreigners and Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag Issues caused crappy play
(2) The Chinese played amazing

It could be true that lag may affect play slightly, but having that as a reason to belittle the achievements of winning/(hopefully) deserving players is absolutely wrong.
||Liquid'Taeja||ST_PartinG||Liquid'Hero||SlayerS_MMA||Slayers_Genius||TSL_Polt||FXOz||IMNestea||
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 22 2011 10:39 GMT
#1286
finals are offline, mc will wreck them.
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
May 22 2011 15:06 GMT
#1287
On May 22 2011 19:00 CWL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
I really hate how during TSL the foreign community was fast to dismiss and pretty quick to dis-acknowledge the issue of lag in cross realm play and how it could have adversely affected the Korean stars' gameplay. Instead, a lot of our European (those Swedes . . ) jumped to the conclusion that EU > KR.

Now the foreigners are pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that "oh the Chinese are doing well because they have lag advantage" (which is actually a flat out lie)

Hmm . . quite the double standard here.

The Koreans (for the most part) played like crap in the TSL. The Chinese played amazingly in Starswar. The foreign community needs to stop being so pathetic.


Well, it's not really a double standard because both sides of the issues have been discussed in the TSL as well. Fans of any sport are quick to find reasons or excuses for why their favorite players win or lose games.

The Koreans lost in TSL 3 because:
(1a) The Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag issues caused crappy play
(2) The foreigners played amazing

The foreigners and Koreans lost to the Chinese in StarsWar 6 because:
(1a) The foreigners and Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag Issues caused crappy play
(2) The Chinese played amazing

It could be true that lag may affect play slightly, but having that as a reason to belittle the achievements of winning/(hopefully) deserving players is absolutely wrong.


Hasn't it been said several times that for StarsWars the servers being played on depended on where the players were and what the players wanted? If I recall it was a pretty flexible system, as sometimes they would alternate servers or play on the same one if there's not much lag between the servers and both players agree. Correct me if I'm wrong though, as I'm a bit tipsy atm.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 22 2011 17:55 GMT
#1288
On May 23 2011 00:06 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 19:00 CWL wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
I really hate how during TSL the foreign community was fast to dismiss and pretty quick to dis-acknowledge the issue of lag in cross realm play and how it could have adversely affected the Korean stars' gameplay. Instead, a lot of our European (those Swedes . . ) jumped to the conclusion that EU > KR.

Now the foreigners are pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that "oh the Chinese are doing well because they have lag advantage" (which is actually a flat out lie)

Hmm . . quite the double standard here.

The Koreans (for the most part) played like crap in the TSL. The Chinese played amazingly in Starswar. The foreign community needs to stop being so pathetic.


Well, it's not really a double standard because both sides of the issues have been discussed in the TSL as well. Fans of any sport are quick to find reasons or excuses for why their favorite players win or lose games.

The Koreans lost in TSL 3 because:
(1a) The Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag issues caused crappy play
(2) The foreigners played amazing

The foreigners and Koreans lost to the Chinese in StarsWar 6 because:
(1a) The foreigners and Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag Issues caused crappy play
(2) The Chinese played amazing

It could be true that lag may affect play slightly, but having that as a reason to belittle the achievements of winning/(hopefully) deserving players is absolutely wrong.


Hasn't it been said several times that for StarsWars the servers being played on depended on where the players were and what the players wanted? If I recall it was a pretty flexible system, as sometimes they would alternate servers or play on the same one if there's not much lag between the servers and both players agree. Correct me if I'm wrong though, as I'm a bit tipsy atm.

No, you're absolutely right.

From my understanding:
- KR/CN vs. EU games are played on the NA server.
- NA vs. CN games alternate between the two home servers.
- KR vs. CN games use a luck-based system. The starting positions of the two players are compared, and the one with the lower spawn point by clock face gets the server advantage.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
May 22 2011 18:17 GMT
#1289
On May 23 2011 00:06 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 19:00 CWL wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
I really hate how during TSL the foreign community was fast to dismiss and pretty quick to dis-acknowledge the issue of lag in cross realm play and how it could have adversely affected the Korean stars' gameplay. Instead, a lot of our European (those Swedes . . ) jumped to the conclusion that EU > KR.

Now the foreigners are pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that "oh the Chinese are doing well because they have lag advantage" (which is actually a flat out lie)

Hmm . . quite the double standard here.

The Koreans (for the most part) played like crap in the TSL. The Chinese played amazingly in Starswar. The foreign community needs to stop being so pathetic.


Well, it's not really a double standard because both sides of the issues have been discussed in the TSL as well. Fans of any sport are quick to find reasons or excuses for why their favorite players win or lose games.

The Koreans lost in TSL 3 because:
(1a) The Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag issues caused crappy play
(2) The foreigners played amazing

The foreigners and Koreans lost to the Chinese in StarsWar 6 because:
(1a) The foreigners and Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag Issues caused crappy play
(2) The Chinese played amazing

It could be true that lag may affect play slightly, but having that as a reason to belittle the achievements of winning/(hopefully) deserving players is absolutely wrong.


Hasn't it been said several times that for StarsWars the servers being played on depended on where the players were and what the players wanted? If I recall it was a pretty flexible system, as sometimes they would alternate servers or play on the same one if there's not much lag between the servers and both players agree. Correct me if I'm wrong though, as I'm a bit tipsy atm.

Genius forfeited the starwars tournament because of lag, and some other koreans said there was.
About TSL, cross-server will always make random results
WriterMaru
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 22 2011 18:21 GMT
#1290
On May 23 2011 03:17 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 00:06 JKira wrote:
On May 22 2011 19:00 CWL wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
I really hate how during TSL the foreign community was fast to dismiss and pretty quick to dis-acknowledge the issue of lag in cross realm play and how it could have adversely affected the Korean stars' gameplay. Instead, a lot of our European (those Swedes . . ) jumped to the conclusion that EU > KR.

Now the foreigners are pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that "oh the Chinese are doing well because they have lag advantage" (which is actually a flat out lie)

Hmm . . quite the double standard here.

The Koreans (for the most part) played like crap in the TSL. The Chinese played amazingly in Starswar. The foreign community needs to stop being so pathetic.


Well, it's not really a double standard because both sides of the issues have been discussed in the TSL as well. Fans of any sport are quick to find reasons or excuses for why their favorite players win or lose games.

The Koreans lost in TSL 3 because:
(1a) The Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag issues caused crappy play
(2) The foreigners played amazing

The foreigners and Koreans lost to the Chinese in StarsWar 6 because:
(1a) The foreigners and Koreans played like crap for whatever reason
(1b) Lag Issues caused crappy play
(2) The Chinese played amazing

It could be true that lag may affect play slightly, but having that as a reason to belittle the achievements of winning/(hopefully) deserving players is absolutely wrong.


Hasn't it been said several times that for StarsWars the servers being played on depended on where the players were and what the players wanted? If I recall it was a pretty flexible system, as sometimes they would alternate servers or play on the same one if there's not much lag between the servers and both players agree. Correct me if I'm wrong though, as I'm a bit tipsy atm.

Genius forfeited the starwars tournament because of lag, and some other koreans said there was.
About TSL, cross-server will always make random results


I have yet to hear a reason why Genius quit. It may not have been lag related but him more tilting.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#1291
My god guys, who cares. Yes there probably is some lag, just like there was some lag in the TSL. It does not mean the Chinese players aren't good, you simply have to look at the games. Extremely solid blink micro, very creative strats, solid macro, etc
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 18:13:15
May 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#1292
So I'm guessing the finals will be this weekend or beginning of next week? Hopefully the players get flown in early so no jet-lag!+ Show Spoiler +
MC is scheduled to play GSL on Friday night
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 23 2011 18:45 GMT
#1293
On May 24 2011 03:11 onedayclose wrote:
So I'm guessing the finals will be this weekend or beginning of next week? Hopefully the players get flown in early so no jet-lag!+ Show Spoiler +
MC is scheduled to play GSL on Friday night


The games are set for 6/11 and 6/12. So about two weeks.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
bHawk
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
May 23 2011 18:52 GMT
#1294
On May 24 2011 03:11 onedayclose wrote:
So I'm guessing the finals will be this weekend or beginning of next week? Hopefully the players get flown in early so no jet-lag!+ Show Spoiler +
MC is scheduled to play GSL on Friday night


Jet lag shouldn't affect a korean playing in China. So games should be fine.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 20:15:28
May 23 2011 20:03 GMT
#1295
Reddit Thread, please help us and check it out !

So I'm totally stealing what Bkrow put in the xiaOt fanclub because it's so sick:


On May 22 2011 11:53 bkrow wrote:
[image loading]
Look at that bracket; read those names, and explain why this tournament is not the #1 trending topic on twitter right now! This tournament has shown some insane matchups like ST_Ace vs oGsMC, TLO vs HongUn, HuK vs MorroW, Sen vs Ace, San vs Ret as well as players like MKP, Boxer, White-Ra and many many more. The best part about this tournament is that it showcases some of the incredible Chinese talent with players such as Lovecd and Lovett proving they can tangle with the best in the world. However, no matchup can be more anticipated than one that is happening in less than a week!

Day 2 - IdrA vs. xiaOt
May 23rd, 2011 8PM EST

[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] IdrA < Tal'Darim Altar > [image loading] Nv.xiaOt
[image loading] IdrA < TBA > [image loading] Nv.xiaOt
[image loading] IdrA < TBA > [image loading] Nv.xiaOt


IdrA is one of, if not the best zerg and xiaOt is considered the best Chinese player; i am super excited for this series, especially to see how IdrA approaches this ZvP with supposedly a top class player. Hoping IdrA can win it - but it should be awesome! TL.net needs to hype this up way more than it is right now, this is a great matchup!

To put it into some perspective; to get to this place in the finals xiaOt has beaten..
+ Show Spoiler +
MarineKingPrime.We, NsHs.San and now he faces IdrA


Here is a little information on xiaOt;

[image loading]


Show nested quote +

xiaOt was a Chinese WC3 orc with a huge amount of fucking talent, but was always lazy in attending international tournaments/didn't have the motivation to take it to the next level.

think of him as a chinese ret ;o


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/XiaOt


Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#1296
Someone knows who won? Send me a PM please
ezekiel22
Profile Joined January 2011
100 Posts
May 23 2011 22:04 GMT
#1297
When does the stream start ?
2:00 AM CET or 3:00 AM CET ?
From Teamliquid calendar it will start at 2:00 AM CET
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 23 2011 22:08 GMT
#1298
So late today

Don't think I can stay up to watch live for once
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 23 2011 22:44 GMT
#1299
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#1300
gogo XiaOt.. roflstomp the bm'er!!
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