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On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well.
Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill.
For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games.
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On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games.
Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!
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On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!
Jetlag can get pretty serious ...
But yeah. Honestly, you have to give credit where credit's due. Most of the Koreans and foreigners have been seriously outplayed by the Chinese in this tournament, and regardless of the results, I think it's safe to say that China has been turning out some really amazing (Protoss) players.
Hope XiaOt takes this tournament, in any case. Might encourage him to try for the GSL (which he has said he won't attend until he has a shot at the finals or something to that effect).
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If I understood this correctly, Xiaot vs Idra is going to be streamed in 15 mins ?
Am I correct ?
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On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!
What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next.
Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove.
None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world.
I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious.
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On May 24 2011 08:46 TeWy wrote:
If I understood this correctly, Xiaot vs Idra is going to be streamed in 15 mins ?
Am I correct ?
Yes sir. 
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Xiaot is really good so I think IdrA might have some trouble with him. He might be the best P in the world, but because he plays out of CN not a lot of people have seen him play. He's really solid and IdrA is going to have his work cut out for him.
On May 22 2011 19:39 kratos-23 wrote:
finals are offline, mc will wreck them.
Xiaot could win the whole thing if he can get past grack.
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On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!! What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next. Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove. None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world. I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious.
None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come.
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On May 24 2011 08:57 iloahz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!! What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next. Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove. None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world. I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious. None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come.
So in your world if someone has never won anything the logical reason is they never try and would win everything if they did?
I also never participated in a major lan but ofc if i felt like going to Korea I'd probably win Code S.
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On May 24 2011 09:03 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:57 iloahz wrote:On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!! What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next. Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove. None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world. I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious. None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come. So in your world if someone has never won anything the logical reason is they never try and would win everything if they did? I also never participated in a major lan but ofc if i felt like going to Korea I'd probably win Code S.
Do you know anything about the Chinese scene? I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with someone like you.
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On May 24 2011 09:05 TheWarbler wrote:
Did IDra play already?
Not yet. Morrow vs. Lovett is going first
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On May 24 2011 09:07 iloahz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 09:03 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 08:57 iloahz wrote:On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well. Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill. For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games. Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!! What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next. Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove. None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world. I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious. None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come. So in your world if someone has never won anything the logical reason is they never try and would win everything if they did? I also never participated in a major lan but ofc if i felt like going to Korea I'd probably win Code S. Do you know anything about the Chinese scene? I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with someone like you.
Because your argument is ridiculous. Players are top players when they win tournaments and turn mindless hype into results on the board. There are countless footballers (soccer) with amazing talent and ability but unless they turn that into real performances it means nothing.
So when you say Chinese players are super talented it's a worthless statement, players are not good because you say they are, they are good because they win tournaments, which Chinese players have not done. So ranking them alongside a guy like MC who has won basically all there is to win in Sc2 is absurd.
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Someone had their mic muted lol
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so its marrow and the chinese guy playing first or did the Idra match already happen?
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On May 24 2011 09:15 sermokala wrote:
so its marrow and the chinese guy playing first or did the Idra match already happen?
First game is Morrow's, Idra is after.
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