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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 24 2011 00:18 GMT
#1321
Lovett sees no tech and goes for fast 6 gates after forge expo.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 00:19:48
May 24 2011 00:19 GMT
#1322
70 drones at the 7:45 mark lol what
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 24 2011 00:20 GMT
#1323
Greediest build of all time.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 24 2011 00:20 GMT
#1324
On May 24 2011 09:19 Domination wrote:
70 drones at the 7:45 mark lol what


Lawl, then just loses to the early push. >_<
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
May 24 2011 00:21 GMT
#1325
On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well.


Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill.

For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games.


Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!

When MC got knocked out of TSL he was flying all around the world playing in many tournaments. Being able to devote all your time practising for 1 player would definitely up their chance in the match. Obviously, they need some base skill to win the game but if you don't think it plays a big factor you would be wrong.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 24 2011 00:21 GMT
#1326
Greed is powerfully punished by loveTT
eiger
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium98 Posts
May 24 2011 00:21 GMT
#1327

tsk greedy morrow
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 24 2011 00:22 GMT
#1328
These chinese tosses are interesting to say the least.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 00:24:19
May 24 2011 00:22 GMT
#1329
On May 24 2011 08:57 iloahz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well.


Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill.

For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games.


Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!


What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next.

Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove.

None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world.

I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious.


None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come.


It has to be based on results. I do believe that you can see skill outside of wins, and sometimes wins do not show skill, but at the end of the day people are going to look at results.

The Chinese players can prove much by winning the LAN phase of this tournament, and if they do win WCG 2011, then I think that will definitely put China on the map with regards to SC 2. Being familiar with the Dota scene, I am certainly sympathetic to the idea that Chinese players can become the best at a competitive game, but there are reasons for why SC 2 might not be such a game.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 00:26:09
May 24 2011 00:25 GMT
#1330
Really late forge if morrow pressures I think he takes it.

Edit: Oh wow that wall-off is sexy.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 24 2011 00:26 GMT
#1331
MC is a master of PvP... chinese protosses winning is just good for him. His micro in a LAN latency is unstoppable, and PvP is heavily influenced by micro decisions.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 24 2011 00:27 GMT
#1332
On May 24 2011 09:12 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 09:07 iloahz wrote:
On May 24 2011 09:03 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 08:57 iloahz wrote:
On May 24 2011 08:48 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 08:30 s4life wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:50 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Holy shit at the results. So many top foreign and korean players getting knocked out by Chinese Protoss players. Going to be riots if Idra and Morrow both manage to lose as well.


Doesn't suprise me at all. When one player is playing in their world cup final and the other is just playing another game in one of many tournaments you'd expect the guy who's playing his world cup final and devoting all his practice time to win unless there is a collosal difference in skill.

For more evidence of this kind of thing look at Thorzain vs MC, Dimaga vs Nestea and many GSTL games.


Wonder what'll take to really give credit to the foreign or chinese player when he beats a Korean. Sure.. MC wasn't trying, he was just playing for $15000 .. just another tournament.. yeah right heh. I think If Bomber and Losira lose half their matches in the MLG fanbots will still find an excuse for them. Let me guess.. jetlag!!


What it will take is for Chinese Protosses, Thorzain, Dimaga to consistantly beat the best and win major tournaments just like MC with his 4 Major LAN titles including two GSL's rather than win against a top player one week and get knocked out of every tournament running the next.

Since his TSL win Thorzain has been knocked out early in the Road to Korea and Swedish WCG and he lost pretty convincingly in the EG Masters last night, in basically everything except the TSL he's been mediocre and still has a lot to prove.

None of the Chinese players have achieved anything outside of the one Chinese tournament in Sc2. If they get stomped by MC at the LAN they will all look a bit silly a bit like Kas did in Copenhagen after some of the hype here calling him the best Terran in the world.

I wonder when the how many LANS in a row Koreans will need to win before the anti-Korean brigade realise the obvious.


None of Chinese achieved anything because they did not participate in those events. A lack of information does not indicate a lack of skills. In fact judging from how Chinese are so good are RTS games in general, (best at WC3 and best at SC1 outside of Korea), it will not surprise me if the Chinese completely dominates the SC2 scene in the future. WCG 2011 will be one of first things to come.


So in your world if someone has never won anything the logical reason is they never try and would win everything if they did?

I also never participated in a major lan but ofc if i felt like going to Korea I'd probably win Code S.


Do you know anything about the Chinese scene? I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with someone like you.


Because your argument is ridiculous. Players are top players when they win tournaments and turn mindless hype into results on the board. There are countless footballers (soccer) with amazing talent and ability but unless they turn that into real performances it means nothing.

So when you say Chinese players are super talented it's a worthless statement, players are not good because you say they are, they are good because they win tournaments, which Chinese players have not done. So ranking them alongside a guy like MC who has won basically all there is to win in Sc2 is absurd.

I reckon that people are getting riled up mostly because your initial post at the top of the previous page basically says, "Well, the Koreans could have owned the Chinese if only they (the Koreans) took this tournament seriously." Which is, no matter how you look at it, really fucking disrespectful to the Chinese. That's basically akin to me saying, "Oh, I could have gotten first chair in the Atlanta Symphony Youth Orchestra if only I put in the practice!" Because, you know what? I didn't. (I didn't even get into the orchestra, for that matter.) But by saying otherwise, I am taking credit away from and downplaying the achievements of the people who, honest to god, fucking outplayed me during the auditions.

And look, you can be as skeptical as you want to be about the Chinese - a dose of skepticism is always healthy - but I don't think it's possible to argue at this moment that the Chinese have wiped the ground with most of the foreign/Korean competition in this particular tournament. They have outplayed their opponents, and they have played remarkably well, for the most part. Even without looking at the results and coming at it from just a purely objective standpoint, I think it's quite fair to say that they are in great shape, and I, for one, can't wait for the day when they actually decide to go to the GSLs. (Or rather I should say, if they decide to go to the GSLs.)

And finally, one can be a good, super-talented, skillful player without winning any tournaments. (DRG is a great example. Sure, he's in Code B, and yet he's also one of the top Zergs in Korea at the moment.) But for the most part, yes, people do look at results over anything else.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 24 2011 00:34 GMT
#1333
These Chinese tosses love their blink. Interesting build.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 24 2011 00:35 GMT
#1334
So infestors are good yes?
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
May 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#1335
Holy shit Lovett really playing damn well.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
May 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#1336
That was an excellent game - liked seeing the archon usage. They are effective against baneling bombs.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
May 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#1337
Was it just me, or were Morrow's baneling bombs not exactly up to par in those last 2 engagements?
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 24 2011 00:39 GMT
#1338
Morrow actually had a 20 supply lead and went down 25 supply after that engagement at the toss's third. Losing all of his infestors hurt so much.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 24 2011 00:39 GMT
#1339
On May 24 2011 09:38 crawlingchaos wrote:
Was it just me, or were Morrow's baneling bombs not exactly up to par in those last 2 engagements?


Yep, they hit the archons which is really cost inefficient.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 24 2011 00:40 GMT
#1340
He looks like Whid-Ra!
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