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Stay on-topic please. Off-topic arguments derailing the thread will not be tolerated. Next spam post about eagles = ban. We get it, you're funny Take the eagle stuff here stop with the bw vs wc3 bullshit please | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:27 Slardar wrote: Although true, that's an impossibility. If you lose to someone, your in the LB. They could meet up together in the LB and that's when the extended series would come into play. Couldn't you lose to someone in the groups stage and keep the top place in the group? I'm pretty sure that's possible. | ||
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YoungNeil
Canada328 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:25 bkrow wrote: They are TWO different series; under DIFFERENT circumstances.. The PENALTY for losing against an opponent is going into the LOSERS bracket where you have struggle your way through; but then you come up against the guy again and instead of "well done you battled through so much shit in the losers bracket - good on you" it's "well done - now beat him 4 times before he beats you twice!" It pretty much serves as a double penalty.. The idea is that if the two players play two entirely separate series, then it's entirely arbitrary for the second series to be the deciding one. If you beat your opponent once and lose once, why do they emerge the overall victor? Why not the other way around? I doubt the losing player would be comforted by "Well, the other guy showed some really good stuff after he lost to you, so yeah, second one counts." As a viewer, the extended series feels cheap to me, but I can't think of a fair way to avoid it in a double-elimination format. The FXOpen thing where they play two Bo5s is another option, but it's basically the same idea with a different execution. The player who won initially still has an advantage in the later series. | ||
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azn_dude1
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VenerableSpace
United States463 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:25 Hrrrrm wrote: He earned the 2-0 and then ADVANCED. That's the reward. Why stop the award at games? Why not start him off with extra minerals and extra units? That's right because it's series is meant to be it's OWN thing and not some part of a bigger picture. MLG's format is already garbage, extended series just adds to it a bit more. That is a valid argument, but it seems MLG wants to go for more of a grind it out/grueling route where the most "consistent" player has a higher chance of winning. Not necessarily the best but the most consistent over a course over 3 days. Extended series if you look at it that way does make sense to allow the most consistent player to win, as each game is worth the same amount. Winning a game in the first round is the same value as winning one in the semi's. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19086 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:25 crms wrote: meh i dont like that justifcation. if broodwar has shown us anything it's that insane play is possible. also i dont think someone like select would say 'ravens would be good but I'm just not good enough to control everything'. Even without flawless execution ravens are better than no ravens. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Please play the game first, post after. You can't get just get a building and instantly warp in 3 ravens from your starports. Especially not while still building vikings, getting upgrades, getting ghosts and pumping bio with your every single penny, so you can stay alive. Yeah, I'm gonna say something completely insane, but Select would've probably gotten Ravens if it would've been a viable transition in that game. | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:28 ZeromuS wrote: It would be an APM issue if all that happened at once. Dropping EMPs must happen before dropping the PDDs anyway since the emp would destroy the PDD energy. Not only that but the PDD is a bit more defensive than offensive anyway since they need to sit there out in the open after all. Dropping some pdds as the protoss pushes in after dropping some emps is fine imo. You dont need to stim kite either since you will be fighting range 9 collossi and stalkers need to be hit instead of letting just vikings shoot at the collossi. Its more an issue of practiced strategy and tactics and comfort not as much a question of apm. A small raven force would be useful. Regardless of the PDD because DTs do so so much damage. Yes, I am sure you are right. Top Terrans don't use six different types of units because they don't feel like practicing it and not because it's impossible to manage late game. | ||
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:26 CrispyTender wrote: Poll: Which player are you rooting for? Naniwa, beast mode (42) KiwiKaki, Amazing play vs select!!! (36) GOGO NANIWA, MAKE IT 26-1!!! (18) 96 total votes Your vote: Which player are you rooting for? (Vote): Naniwa, beast mode 26-0 omg here we go again | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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IntoTheBush
United States552 Posts
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Pervect
1280 Posts
If they're whining in here, then no one should give a shit because you don't know their credentials, they haven't put in effort and should be ignored completely. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:27 Slardar wrote: Although true, that's an impossibility. If you lose to someone, your in the LB. They could meet up together in the LB and that's when the extended series would come into play. Not if you lose to them in the new format of MLG. They could have played in pool play. Those series results also carry over to the "Champions Bracket". So it's ENTIRELY possible under this weekends format. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44553 Posts
Game's on shattered temple. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
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psybeam
Denmark47 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:29 Shika wrote: Naniwa fighting! Make it 26-0 for a perfect sweep! It says in the bracket that machine got one map against nani http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html | ||
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mholden02
387 Posts
You mean where there are drops and idle units all over the place and inefficient micro? Yes in BW you can outplay the other player purely with multitasking and apm, in SC2 you cannot, Protoss can be managed with near perfect efficiency late game with 150 - 200 apm and Terran can't. This isn't a balance complaint, I play protoss, this is just the way it is Agreed. Warping units in 5 seconds after a Max battle, after Terran just crushed your army, yet takes 30 seconds + movement from the barracks to reinforce. The Micro to avoid colossus fire, EMP everything AND micro your Vikings takes supreme micro - Protoss Chargelots and Colossus need little micro, just kill Vikings with Stalkers. Protoss can be maximized with less skill than Terran, and Zerg takes more skill again. | ||
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evil_lesh
Latvia68 Posts
and can someone please send me a PM explaining the Eagles joke :/ | ||
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