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WafflesX3
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada71 Posts
March 30 2011 13:32 GMT
#3421
On March 30 2011 22:26 Geolich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:13 WafflesX3 wrote:
Can someone explain what hold positions mean? I missed the GSL WC today

HuK basically left a group of stalkers within siege range on Hold Position. One tank killed like 3? of them over a few shots. Was fairly lol.


but would it have made any difference? I just watched the VOD and MVP was going cloaked banshee with no detection from huk.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 30 2011 13:35 GMT
#3422
On March 30 2011 21:50 GOM.Sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:43 Bfire0 wrote:
korean reactions please! where are the translators when you crave gossip!


Read someone saying that a Korean SC2 pro team should pick up Dimaga.

Ohhhh, someone has to do it. Dimaga can compete in Code S easily.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 30 2011 13:35 GMT
#3423
On March 30 2011 22:32 WafflesX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:26 Geolich wrote:
On March 30 2011 22:13 WafflesX3 wrote:
Can someone explain what hold positions mean? I missed the GSL WC today

HuK basically left a group of stalkers within siege range on Hold Position. One tank killed like 3? of them over a few shots. Was fairly lol.


but would it have made any difference? I just watched the VOD and MVP was going cloaked banshee with no detection from huk.


Yeah, it looked like HuK was pretty much dead
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 13:36:33
March 30 2011 13:35 GMT
#3424
On March 30 2011 22:25 bks wrote:
Also there were 2 cannon rushes in MC vs San series.


Cannons happen fairly frequently though, especially in PvP. That kind of play really doesn't compare to what Choya or Dimaga did. That's really mild cheese compared to the finely aged cheddar of those guys.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
March 30 2011 13:36 GMT
#3425
On March 30 2011 22:35 Raygun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:25 bks wrote:
Also there were 2 cannon rushes in MC vs San series.


Cannons happen fairly frequently though, especially in PvP. That kind of play really doesn't compare to what Choya did or what Dimaga did. That's really mild cheese compared to the finely aged cheddar of those guys.


how i love your comment ! :D
Stork[gm]
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
March 30 2011 13:39 GMT
#3426
On March 30 2011 22:35 Utinni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:50 GOM.Sam wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:43 Bfire0 wrote:
korean reactions please! where are the translators when you crave gossip!


Read someone saying that a Korean SC2 pro team should pick up Dimaga.

Ohhhh, someone has to do it. Dimaga can compete in Code S easily.


I am korean and I read a famous sc2 forum even pro players goto and they were very positive about Dimaga.

Some were saying Dimaga should win the whole tournament even before today's matches.
Some were saying foreigners should do well in the gsl so that they can make the korean players work harder and stuff.

I was surprised. I thought it would be all nationalistic and going YEAHHHHH KOREA!!! but most of them were pretty open-minded.

they also thought Dimagas ceremony was cool .
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 30 2011 13:41 GMT
#3427
On March 30 2011 22:18 oGsTheStD wrote:
I've noticed the general trend of game recommendations being that if a foreigner beats a korean, it will have more recommendations.

Is this because of a team World bias (I mean, it IS teamliquid.net) or because the games are exciting from the underdog status of westerners?


Watching Korean Soccer team in World Cup, I would say you not new to being exited for your team.

Cap obvious....
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 30 2011 13:43 GMT
#3428
On March 30 2011 22:21 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I am a somewhat IdrA fan. But stating that zerg is unplayable is a joke.

When I play custom and I see that my opponent is gold or lower I always switch races. A couple days ago there was a bronze zerg complaining about imbalance. He told me that Terran was OP and when I told him that on his level the game was perfectly balanced, he referred to IdrA...

I have to disagree with this. At that level Terran is by far the easiest race. Why?
We can all agree that at that level all races players macro sucks.
But Terran macro is most forgiving. If you do not inject larva you cannot ever get that time back, if you miss warpgate cycles or forget to chrono you cannot get that back.
Terran mules punish less if they are not used optimally and their production buildings all have build queues which are much easier to use for a newbie and help more to macro better. How? well you miss your first timing of building units and now you queue up a couple of units in each baracks/factory/starport. That will make sure you do not miss any of them for a while while toss and zerg players keep fracking up their macro over and over and have now way to make sure it gets better for a while.

Anyways, ON topic: GO GO DIMAGA!! Hopefully you can study SanZenith and take him out in Ro8.
bonedriven
Profile Joined August 2010
258 Posts
March 30 2011 13:44 GMT
#3429
Dimaga killed Nestea?!!!!!!!!!!

OMG. I got a new idol! :DDD
Hence,"Like a Virgin."
Geolich
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia375 Posts
March 30 2011 13:44 GMT
#3430
On March 30 2011 22:32 WafflesX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:26 Geolich wrote:
On March 30 2011 22:13 WafflesX3 wrote:
Can someone explain what hold positions mean? I missed the GSL WC today

HuK basically left a group of stalkers within siege range on Hold Position. One tank killed like 3? of them over a few shots. Was fairly lol.


but would it have made any difference? I just watched the VOD and MVP was going cloaked banshee with no detection from huk.


He was pretty much dead yeah - but it was just a pretty horrible move from a progamer , yet alone one who claimed he had "top 3 control in the world"
MarineKingPrime!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 30 2011 13:45 GMT
#3431
On March 30 2011 22:44 bonedriven wrote:
Dimaga killed Nestea?!!!!!!!!!!

OMG. I got a new idol! :DDD


No he just beat him in sc2.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 13:49:56
March 30 2011 13:48 GMT
#3432
On March 30 2011 22:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:12 HuHEN wrote:
On March 30 2011 22:04 silentsaint wrote:
On March 30 2011 22:02 Tschis wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:55 Maaku wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:32 Leviance wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:14 blAke139 wrote:
to the HuK mocking:

I just don't get you people. Bullying HuK for losing to MVP. Always mocking HuK just for something he said months ago. What about you start remembering good and honest things he did and does. He actually wrote on his facebook wall like 15 minutes ago:

Sorry everyone, I really don't know what else to say ...

Tell me about another pro who is actually apologizing to his fans when not playing as well as he could. I'm not a fanboy, I just don't get the mocking.

And oh yeah.
GO DIMAGA!!!


Lots of players apologize to fans in interviews after bad performances... HuK never gives credit to opponents when he loses, always talks about himself and how good he is, just not very likeable. There is a different between months ago and weeks ago. But he's always full of himself.

And due to the fact he can't even support his arrogant behaviour with results despite practising in korea, he gets lots of people mocking him.

When idra does it tho everyone loves him for it.


IdrA has showed credit to better players before, in many interviews.

He might trashtalk against some players, but fans mainly like it when the other player is obviously worse than him, but still manages to win a series of games.

//tx


Thats true. I enjoy his opinion a lot if he is on state-of-the-game. He never holds his opinion back in fear someone might not like it.


Hes spent so much time convincing everyone that zerg is unplayable, that it gives him and thousands of ladder zergs the right to:
Show absolutely no respect for the skill of their oppponents,
immediately assume because they are zerg that they have outplayed their opponent,
and
blame any losses on imbalance.

Yeah, I am a somewhat IdrA fan. But stating that zerg is unplayable is a joke.

When I play custom and I see that my opponent is gold or lower I always switch races. A couple days ago there was a bronze zerg complaining about imbalance. He told me that Terran was OP and when I told him that on his level the game was perfectly balanced, he referred to IdrA...

Zerg vs Terran is in a good state now. We see Dimaga his style, We have July his style. Both work.

Zerg vs Protoss was never a real problem. Except on bad maps like Jungle Basin. Even in the finals I had this feeling that July made wrong decision.
IdrA vs Cruncher same thing. Idra went for 6 more drones when Cruncher started moving out, and then he wanted to stepmicro some roaches but got trapped by some impressive forcefields. Those together were 11 roaches he trew away before the fight started.

Zerg might be a bit weaker. I don't know. Playing zerg doesn't forgive making mistakes. But it can be cruel to play against as well. (Morrow vs Jinro)


Idra has been justified in the past for saying zerg is weak. Patches have gone some way to improve the situation though. Like you say, ZvT is not such a problem as it was before many patches happened. ZvP is still somewhat difficult, potentially, but then we only just had a new patch so it will take time to see what impact that has. After roaches got buffed to 4 range, suddenly there was a short period of zergs doing much better (only very short) before T and P adapted. Z has to take a bit of time to work with infestors.

On that note, and more relevant, I was surprise Nestea went for hydralisks against DImaga. Dimaga was obviously going hydras, because that's the most natural move, so doing the same while you are behind in every way isn't really going to give you the best chance to win unless there's a way in which you can use your micro to beat the other guy. Going infestors might have maybe given him a better chance, rather than trying to follow Dimaga while being behind.
HOLY CHECK!
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 13:51:19
March 30 2011 13:50 GMT
#3433
Dima i love ya man. Hope u will own san even though zvp is worst mu >_< I believe in u! gogogo D:<
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
March 30 2011 13:51 GMT
#3434
On March 30 2011 22:45 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:44 bonedriven wrote:
Dimaga killed Nestea?!!!!!!!!!!

OMG. I got a new idol! :DDD


No he just beat him in sc2.


Well to be fair the cameras have been off for a while....
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
March 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#3435
On March 30 2011 22:39 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:35 Utinni wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:50 GOM.Sam wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:43 Bfire0 wrote:
korean reactions please! where are the translators when you crave gossip!


Read someone saying that a Korean SC2 pro team should pick up Dimaga.

Ohhhh, someone has to do it. Dimaga can compete in Code S easily.


I am korean and I read a famous sc2 forum even pro players goto and they were very positive about Dimaga.

Some were saying Dimaga should win the whole tournament even before today's matches.
Some were saying foreigners should do well in the gsl so that they can make the korean players work harder and stuff.

I was surprised. I thought it would be all nationalistic and going YEAHHHHH KOREA!!! but most of them were pretty open-minded.

they also thought Dimagas ceremony was cool .


That´s awesome. Thank´s for sharing
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
March 30 2011 13:57 GMT
#3436
On March 30 2011 22:51 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:45 nihlon wrote:
On March 30 2011 22:44 bonedriven wrote:
Dimaga killed Nestea?!!!!!!!!!!

OMG. I got a new idol! :DDD


No he just beat him in sc2.


Well to be fair the cameras have been off for a while....


LOL.

Dimaga has always impressed me. I can't wait to watch these VODs.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
R A V
Profile Joined November 2009
United States217 Posts
March 30 2011 14:01 GMT
#3437
Dimaga is sort of a beast.
And he is so damn smiley all the time :DDD
Jaedong? More like JDAWG
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 30 2011 14:02 GMT
#3438
Really funny how people call Nestea vs Dimaga an upset and how Dimaga surely can compete in code S after seeing these matches, Dimaga and many others have been just as good if not better than the koreans for a long long time.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
gamefan15
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
March 30 2011 14:02 GMT
#3439
On March 30 2011 22:18 oGsTheStD wrote:
I've noticed the general trend of game recommendations being that if a foreigner beats a korean, it will have more recommendations.

Is this because of a team World bias (I mean, it IS teamliquid.net) or because the games are exciting from the underdog status of westerners?


I think because Korea is still the mecca of Starcraft skill for the most people and so to see foreigners catch up and be able to win still feels great and special.

If you would in the future just speak of Sweden, Germany, Ukraine, USA, Korea etc itself and all would be skillwise on the same level instead of on the one hand you have Korea and on the other hand the rest of the world then I think everyone would just be biased to his country, but wouldnt be interested to see Koreans get beaten by someone from a other nation in particular.

but aslong as Korea is seen as something special in the Starcraft universe it will be like you mentioned.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 30 2011 14:03 GMT
#3440
On March 30 2011 22:39 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 22:35 Utinni wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:50 GOM.Sam wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:43 Bfire0 wrote:
korean reactions please! where are the translators when you crave gossip!


Read someone saying that a Korean SC2 pro team should pick up Dimaga.

Ohhhh, someone has to do it. Dimaga can compete in Code S easily.


I am korean and I read a famous sc2 forum even pro players goto and they were very positive about Dimaga.

Some were saying Dimaga should win the whole tournament even before today's matches.
Some were saying foreigners should do well in the gsl so that they can make the korean players work harder and stuff.

I was surprised. I thought it would be all nationalistic and going YEAHHHHH KOREA!!! but most of them were pretty open-minded.

they also thought Dimagas ceremony was cool .


that sounds awesome!

could you give us more .... plz?

"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
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