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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 31 2011 04:29 GMT
#3701
great games, dimaga must feel real good.. excellent job taking the lead and keeping it in game 3.. game 2 was sweet as well.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
March 31 2011 04:38 GMT
#3702
Other then the embarrasing set of first games of huk v mvp great games last night.

Dimaga spoiling the perfect record of nestea is such a story, and he has a pretty legit chance at a finals run. July is so much fun to watch, he has been by far the most exciting player of the last 2 months imo, and has really shown zvt is july favored. The whitera series was kind of sad in white ra's just plain stubborness that his build countered 4 gate and his refusal to 4 gate back.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
March 31 2011 05:55 GMT
#3703
Was a bit skeptical due to the shady incident last time from TSL2 but DIMAGA totally wins my respect now.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Sami`
Profile Joined March 2011
89 Posts
March 31 2011 07:51 GMT
#3704
On March 31 2011 13:38 bigjenk wrote:
Other then the embarrasing set of first games of huk v mvp great games last night.

Dimaga spoiling the perfect record of nestea is such a story, and he has a pretty legit chance at a finals run. July is so much fun to watch, he has been by far the most exciting player of the last 2 months imo, and has really shown zvt is july favored. The whitera series was kind of sad in white ra's just plain stubborness that his build countered 4 gate and his refusal to 4 gate back.


It really is a joy to watch July play, he is the only z that is playing the race how it is supposed to be played and even he still has a long way to go in my opinion.

Z has by far the most potential of any race, we haven't seen much re-max tech switching going on, I feel like thats what z's should be working on atm.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
March 31 2011 07:54 GMT
#3705
On March 31 2011 09:08 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 09:05 ThaZenith wrote:
On March 31 2011 08:30 HeroHenry wrote:
On March 31 2011 08:21 ThaZenith wrote:
On March 31 2011 07:41 chenchen wrote:
I really think that people should stop flaunting their ignorance.

Four gate is standard in PvP.

In literally every match up other than PvP, San goes for an econ based macro game, the origin of his nickname "The Wack-a-Mole Protoss", because he expands everywhere and even when he loses so much stuff, he just rebuilds it because he has so much stuff.


It isn't ignorance to not enjoy watching 4 gates, it's preference. Getting a masters degree in PvP wouldn't change the fact I don't enjoy watching 4 gates.

I don't care if San sucked 3 seasons ago, or was great last season, 4 gating isn't entertaining.

I don't understand why people can't admit other people have preferences in the games they watch. You don't insult someone just because they like/dislike reality shows, why would you do the same to someone who likes/dislikes 4 gates. It's a style that they find boring.

You should really stop flaunting your ignorance in spectatorship. Don't care that that's not a real word lol. ^^

Massing up collosus and seeing who has more isn't that much better.

Did I say it was? Not sure why you're quoting me to say that. I've said nothing about my preferences on PvP past that i dislike 4 gates.



Well, the thing is that there isn't much else you can do in PvP that won't just roll over and die to a 4gate besides 4gate. Unless two players make some weird pact to not 4gate before a match (which would be ridiculous), it's hard to blame anyone. Consider San's position: What if he had 4gated because he knew he'd die if WhiteRa 4gated? Like, the problem with the whole matchup is that it kind of revolves around 4gate, and you can't really avoid it no matter what you do.

Yup blizz got rid of the 2-Gate zealot counter or rather anticipation counter so weare left with 4WG vs 4WG or 4WG vs lose.
MC for president
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
March 31 2011 09:09 GMT
#3706
<3 Dimaga, my new hero! Aswome play, awsome personality!
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 01 2011 04:45 GMT
#3707
It's ridiculous to blame San for 4-Gating. Anyone who followed GSL knows San has not so fun memory of getting knocked out by cannons/4-gate in the past. 4-Gate in PvP at GSL-level isn't exactly a choice but rather a must. They do it because of the fear of it being done to them. It's unfortunate, but I don't blame it on players. 4-Gate v Z on the other hand..
ratMortar
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 05:37:49
April 01 2011 05:37 GMT
#3708
Do people think Whitera was BMing San when he lost? Didn't seem that way to me. Isn't he known among the pro scene as being one of the most well-mannered players ever? They were just talking about that on this weeks SotG.

That being said, it's a shame he had to play PvP again. He was probably the best foreigner at this event and had a real chance of making it to the finals.

I don't know why people are giving Huk shit for losing to MVP. I actually don't even like Huk but it's getting kind of ridiculous how much crap the guy has to take no matter what he does.

Dimaga beating Nestea was certainly big. I would say game 2 was bit of a coinflip but it was Nestea's fault for taking the risk. Game 3 was where the skill came into play and Dimaga showed why he's among the top zerg in the world. His timing and unit maneuvering was pretty much on the money and deserved to win that game. Although now he has to play San in a ZvP... I feel like 2 conditions have to be met for Dimaga to have a chance at winning this tournament.

A) How well San plays.
B) MC getting eliminated before the finals.

Just my opinion, but I can't see Dimaga beating MC in a Bo7.

darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 01 2011 08:19 GMT
#3709
How the heck was huk supposed to stop the siege of his main? That positioning seems like you need to go quick robo play to hold it off, but mvp had so many marines rendering immortal useless. Maybe collosus? Anyone know how to play against this?
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