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Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#461
On March 03 2011 18:39 sgblack wrote:
That was a really stupid push. Did he think he wouldn't have any sentries? Zerg is going lose that 9 times out of 10.


Zerg loses 3 base protoss with a bigger army vs 3 base zerg more than 9 times out of 10. No choice.
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#462
:/ I knew Idra would lose as soon as I saw that army. Roach hydra just CANNOT face collossus gateway.

Yes it was a bad engagement, but had he had already lost the game, toss was going to expand and be at Idra's throat.
Baking is like science for hungry people
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#463
if he wouldn't have attacked there squirtle can deny idras main and since his 3rd was later than squirtle's he would have lost anyways..

so engaging there was actually better than on the ramp
"If you can chill....chill!"
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#464
ah nice try idra getting 2 wins vs a decent protoss is a accomplishment by itself.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#465
On March 03 2011 18:39 Romashka wrote:
next series are scheduled @ 11.45 cet
are we really gonna wait an hour for that?


GO and watch GSL, Jinro is playing in 10/15 mins
I'm getting the derection.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
March 03 2011 09:40 GMT
#466
On March 03 2011 18:39 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
People don't understand, the Protoss who was already somewhat ahead in economy would've easily won the game with his 3rd up inbetween their bases and constant Collossi harass.

But then again, people don't understand hehe ;P



Still a really shitty decision. He could've waited for corruptors and taken a 4th, there was no way Squirtle would push just yet and idras Spire just went up. Saying IdrA had no choice doesn't really make sense.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Felix_mk
Profile Joined October 2010
85 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#467
Massively disapointed in idra...
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#468
Idra's play just reflects complete frustration.. so much so that it is painful to watch.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#469
unlucky Idra

At least we had a very satisfactory full 5 games of the bo5, and the Squirtle vs Moon rematch should be good.
Scabou
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany229 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#470
3 Koreans in the Semifinals? x_x
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#471
I am wondering if a multi pronged attack would have been better... Maybe bait the colossi to the natural and then attack his 3rd. Oh well... gg Idra
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#472
On March 03 2011 18:39 zocktol wrote:
Idra thinks Zerg can't win, thinks he must attack, does so and never retreats, cause he can't win anyway?

No idea, even i saw he could retreat.


you saw he "should" retreat - cause we're observing - what you failed to see was that squirtle could have just FF the ramp and cut off at least 1/2 of Idra's army. Idra was committed to the fight as soon as his army was down the ramp (he wasn't able to see squirtle's army moving to counter)
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#473
On March 03 2011 18:38 kekstier wrote:
wtf? Anyone has an explanation for this?

Well, balance discussion should not be adressed in the live report thread, so you will need to look for the explanation in another thread.

Overall the game was awful, nothing happens until one one sided engagement ball vs ball, then it is over.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#474
On March 03 2011 18:39 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
People don't understand, the Protoss who was already somewhat ahead in economy would've easily won the game with his 3rd up inbetween their bases and constant Collossi harass.

But then again, people don't understand hehe ;P

You don't seem to understand though, expanding would been better. That was just pure suicide 0 chance of winning against protoss in small choke with collosus and FF. Idra was put on a bad spot and made a mistake it's pretty simple. A lot of players had made a lot of mistakes, idra isn't a god.
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Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#475
The decision was:

- Lose now by not attacking and letting toss get 3 bases (none of which could be attacked).

- Try to kill the toss army while the Colossus count is low and catch him out while he is moving out.

I think he made the right decision to move down.

The reason why he lost is because he scouted that late and also his spire was not done...
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#476
On March 03 2011 18:40 Rosstock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 18:39 Angelbelow wrote:
I understand IdrA's mentality... you cant let tosss get up 3 bases.


There is no way idra is gonna win that battle right there, so why even pick it?


Because if he doesn't get a huge advantage at that time, he loses anyway.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#477
On March 03 2011 18:40 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 18:39 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
People don't understand, the Protoss who was already somewhat ahead in economy would've easily won the game with his 3rd up inbetween their bases and constant Collossi harass.

But then again, people don't understand hehe ;P



Still a really shitty decision. He could've waited for corruptors and taken a 4th, there was no way Squirtle would push just yet and idras Spire just went up. Saying IdrA had no choice doesn't really make sense.


No it was not a shitty decision, he decided to go with it and hope it works.

Like some puny Corrupters do all crap ones you're behind in eco against a Toss lol.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#478
If he successfully took that expansion and transitioned into colossus voidray it was GG thats why he attacked down there, you have to keep protoss on two base or its gg
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#479
On March 03 2011 18:40 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 18:39 Angelbelow wrote:
I understand IdrA's mentality... you cant let tosss get up 3 bases.


That makes no sense, his spire was 90% done, he should have at least got some corruptors, he had enough time before Protoss 3 base economy kicks in.

he was already behind before the toss could get a third.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
March 03 2011 09:42 GMT
#480
It's funny how people are dismissing Idra and saying the battle he did was bad. Do you know what would have happened had that third base gone up?

He would never be able to attack Squirtle again, he could just forcefield the choke, and use his colossus to slowly creep into Idra's Main, There was no other choice for him to make.
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