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TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
February 20 2011 20:03 GMT
#161
Not trying to take anything away from Strelok. Nice win, but many people seem to forget that you cant really micro with the delay from Korea. IdrA is pretty good at those ling+bling+muta attacks and the attacks might have ended up differently if he wasn't playing from Korea... then again it might have ended in just the same way.

Also, I am pretty sure IdrA went with a full on attack against Streloks third since he knew he had to deny it or loose. He could not let Strelok fortify that position.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
February 20 2011 20:03 GMT
#162
On February 21 2011 04:58 Nik0 wrote:
Strelok clearly played great, i mean did you see the fact that he made a planetary fortress?



pretty much
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 20 2011 20:05 GMT
#163
Technology!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
February 20 2011 20:06 GMT
#164
On February 21 2011 05:02 Gentso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 04:58 AlBundy wrote:
Idra's decision making was pretty questionable in this game...


You can't really make many decisions on that map if you commit to ling/bane/muta. The game will be stretched out even if you're ahead. Terran can turtle so well with the map architecture, and if you don't harass you will die to timing pushes through the bridge.

I wish Idra would have did more harass with the mutas. Yeah Terran can turtle, but Strelok's army is so immobile Idra could have done some dual pronged attacks rather than doing something silly like trying to fight it head on.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 20 2011 20:06 GMT
#165
I just think this kinda shows that Scrap Station is not actually a terrible map for nonzergs. You can turtle very well on it
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 20:10:15
February 20 2011 20:07 GMT
#166
On February 21 2011 05:02 Gentso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 04:58 AlBundy wrote:
Idra's decision making was pretty questionable in this game...


You can't really make many decisions on that map. If you commit to ling/bane/muta the game will be stretched out even if you're ahead. Terran can turtle so well with the map architecture, and if you don't harass you will die to timing pushes through the bridge.


Correct me if I'm wrong but in my eyes:
-He double expanded, then he let Terran get a 3rd.
-He tried to take a gold and a 5th, but didn't actually do anything in order to defend them. No static defenses, no queens, no units.
-He built a ton of zerglings but did nothing with them.
-He built some Mutalisks, but definitely not as much as I'm used to see. Usually I see Idra just get a critical mass of mutalisks, it wasn't the case in this game.
-His unit control was not the best, as seen during the attack vs. PF and the lack of good timings as well as double pronged attacks

edit: I forgot that his units lacked some upgrades, unlike Strelok's ones.
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chickensmasher
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada57 Posts
February 20 2011 20:07 GMT
#167
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.
Heed thee thine own encouragement that whilst we play this game, emotions are present. -The book of Geoff 5:12
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
February 20 2011 20:08 GMT
#168
On February 21 2011 05:03 zyglrox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 04:58 Nik0 wrote:
Strelok clearly played great, i mean did you see the fact that he made a planetary fortress?



pretty much

Don't make excuses for Idra throwing away a massive lead. Strelok with the beautiful drops (aside from the first lol) made a great come back,
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
February 20 2011 20:08 GMT
#169
On February 21 2011 05:07 chickensmasher wrote:
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.

:o that's just how it is in starcraft
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
February 20 2011 20:09 GMT
#170
On February 21 2011 05:03 TheCrow wrote:
Not trying to take anything away from Strelok. Nice win, but many people seem to forget that you cant really micro with the delay from Korea. IdrA is pretty good at those ling+bling+muta attacks and the attacks might have ended up differently if he wasn't playing from Korea... then again it might have ended in just the same way.

Also, I am pretty sure IdrA went with a full on attack against Streloks third since he knew he had to deny it or loose. He could not let Strelok fortify that position.


pretty sure it was played on NA so strelok would also have a delay which actually hurts terran more
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 20 2011 20:09 GMT
#171
Is it just me, or the stream is kinda awfully lagging
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
February 20 2011 20:10 GMT
#172
what is the score, op not opdated :<
One ring, to rule them all!
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 20 2011 20:10 GMT
#173
On February 21 2011 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 05:07 chickensmasher wrote:
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.

:o that's just how it is in starcraft



Exactly right!.

His 1 mistake was throwing his entire army into a PF and tank position. Thats a pretty big mistake. You shouldnt be able to recover from it.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
February 20 2011 20:10 GMT
#174
On February 21 2011 05:09 ccHaZaRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 05:03 TheCrow wrote:
Not trying to take anything away from Strelok. Nice win, but many people seem to forget that you cant really micro with the delay from Korea. IdrA is pretty good at those ling+bling+muta attacks and the attacks might have ended up differently if he wasn't playing from Korea... then again it might have ended in just the same way.

Also, I am pretty sure IdrA went with a full on attack against Streloks third since he knew he had to deny it or loose. He could not let Strelok fortify that position.


pretty sure it was played on NA so strelok would also have a delay which actually hurts terran more

KR - US has more delay than EU - US though.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
February 20 2011 20:12 GMT
#175
On February 21 2011 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 05:07 chickensmasher wrote:
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.

:o that's just how it is in starcraft


According to this statement Strelok would have already lost then, if he gets his ass kicked so much?

NOTE: i'm arguing only because your argument sounds slightly weird, provided that chickensmashers argument is true.
the game is the game
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
February 20 2011 20:13 GMT
#176
On February 21 2011 05:10 Samurai- wrote:
what is the score, op not opdated :<

2-1 for EG
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coddan
Profile Joined May 2010
Estonia890 Posts
February 20 2011 20:14 GMT
#177
On February 21 2011 05:10 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On February 21 2011 05:07 chickensmasher wrote:
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.

:o that's just how it is in starcraft



Exactly right!.

His 1 mistake was throwing his entire army into a PF and tank position. Thats a pretty big mistake. You shouldnt be able to recover from it.


Yet Strelok should be allowed to recover from doing 0 damage with blueflame hellions, cloaked banshees, the early drops and losing both tech lab upgrades.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 20 2011 20:14 GMT
#178
On February 21 2011 05:14 coddan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 05:10 Darpa wrote:
On February 21 2011 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On February 21 2011 05:07 chickensmasher wrote:
IdrA was kicking Streloks ass for the whole game, but lost because of 1 mistake. That's just how it is for zerg.

:o that's just how it is in starcraft



Exactly right!.

His 1 mistake was throwing his entire army into a PF and tank position. Thats a pretty big mistake. You shouldnt be able to recover from it.


Yet Strelok should be allowed to recover from doing 0 damage with blueflame hellions, cloaked banshees, the early drops and losing both tech lab upgrades.

And zerg is supposed to be able to remax and throw waves of units at you.
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 20:17:59
February 20 2011 20:17 GMT
#179
wow incontrol got so rolled

axslav for ace!!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 20 2011 20:18 GMT
#180
Yeah ACE match! Great play by hasuobs.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
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