EPTMMM[F][F]M_ _SSSSS_ZZ, where each character is one unit of range(M=marine, F=forcefield, S=sentry, Z=zealot). In this case, only the first row of marines can attack, while all 4 rows of sentries can attack the first row. Again, assuming a solid wall of forcefields, the only marine micro would be forward, which would allow even the fifth row of sentries to attack. If zealots were sent to the blank spots "_", then the second and third row of marines would be able to attack the zealots, while the protoss would deal additional DPS to the marines, which should already get killed by the sentries. As a kind of counterexample, if the forcefields trapped the entire marine army, such that they would all be able to attack anyways, then it would be worthwhile to send in zealots. This is just a theoretical model of what could happen (I know that the unit compositions are arguable), and I know that the forcefield or unit diameters may not be accurately depicted, but I feel this scenario has the general aspects of MM vs gateway units (range vs. range/melee, terrain blockers).
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Arccotangent
519 Posts
MMM[F][F]M_ _SSSSS_ZZ, where each character is one unit of range(M=marine, F=forcefield, S=sentry, Z=zealot). In this case, only the first row of marines can attack, while all 4 rows of sentries can attack the first row. Again, assuming a solid wall of forcefields, the only marine micro would be forward, which would allow even the fifth row of sentries to attack. If zealots were sent to the blank spots "_", then the second and third row of marines would be able to attack the zealots, while the protoss would deal additional DPS to the marines, which should already get killed by the sentries. As a kind of counterexample, if the forcefields trapped the entire marine army, such that they would all be able to attack anyways, then it would be worthwhile to send in zealots. This is just a theoretical model of what could happen (I know that the unit compositions are arguable), and I know that the forcefield or unit diameters may not be accurately depicted, but I feel this scenario has the general aspects of MM vs gateway units (range vs. range/melee, terrain blockers). | ||
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Blu`BotL
Australia115 Posts
On February 07 2011 19:16 mizU wrote: I realize that. It was just funny that they say the opposite things. I wonder what Sean said when he heard that...lols It's not really the opposite thing. Day9 says "pressure while expanding", which makes sense because it makes the opponent defend while you're most vulnerable, giving you a better opportunity to get your expo set-up and defended. Tasteless, on the other hand, is saying "don't expand while attacking", because an attack is an actual attempt at dealing damage, which is mitigated by the lack of resources from investing in an expansion. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On February 07 2011 19:16 Armsved wrote: If you throw down a CC after you move out its fine. But if you invest your money in a CC before you move out its pretty bad since you invested 400 in a CC which could had been more army. Also I think day9 talk mainly about attacking while expanding when you take your 3rd+ since the attack pathern will/should defend you while you get it up with PF, turrets etc. Day[9] essentially says to move out whenever you throw down your expo just so that there's the threat of pressure, and your opponent doesn't just move out and snipe your expo. Tastosis is saying you shouldn't commit to an attack while expanding, because you'll obviously lose, due to having a weaker army. | ||
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
THIS IS REDICULOUS................. | ||
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vicissitudes
52 Posts
Terran with great map control. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
With decent FFs, toss can hold this. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Powster
United States650 Posts
Anyone else have a really blurry quality.. | ||
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Arccotangent
519 Posts
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On February 07 2011 19:21 mizU wrote: Terran has no medivacs... With decent FFs, toss can hold this. I didnt even realize! thats huge, no wonder he got beat in that engagement so hard. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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kirbynator
Canada503 Posts
all he had were zealots and 2-3 stalkers, the zealots go UNDER the colossus so he cant block them Wtf?..... | ||
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kvn4444
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Burpies
Canada409 Posts
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Essentia
1150 Posts
No army positioning at all but still is winning these battles...... | ||
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
The person chosing who he is playing didn't make thebest decision | ||
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