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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 10:43:55
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1161
People no longer seem to respect the one-base all-in pushes like they did in Beta. During Beta everyone was complaining about the difficulty of FE due to small map sizes and stronger units in SC 2. The changes that have been made to the game since did not completely erase this dynamic, and yet somehow players got the idea that it was safe to FE... Until someone like IMMvp (or White-Ra in PvZ) teaches them, once again, the power of one-base play.

It's like the game has gone full circle.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1162
On January 17 2011 19:40 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 19:37 papaz wrote:
no need to hate on the allins. its not like tsl_alives allins vs nestea in gsl3.

tester is FE and is vulnarable so the timing is perfect for the allin.



It's the same logic.

Nestea is FE and is vulnarable so the timing is perfect for the allin.

Zergs have nice double standards.


Didn't nestea pool first in every game today?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1163
Im just dissapointed. Comparing these Games today to European or American events, it seems the games played there are a lot more entertaining to watch.
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1164
On January 17 2011 19:37 Deadlyfish wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:36 Armsved wrote:
WTF is going on here? Why isnt he winning when he holds the blue flame perfect..

Im terran and this looks ridiculus...



FE vs SCV all-in, stalkers vs PDD.

impressive build by MVP that's all.


FE vs SCV all-in? - Testers expansion already payed for itself, and actually provided an ADVANTAGE

stalkers vs PDD? - He has so many stalkers that it was nullified in like 2 volleys.

Not an impressive build at all.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1165
On January 17 2011 19:41 butchji wrote:
In BroodWar people weren't just standing in the DarkSwarm. Now in StarCraft2 people just don't seem to care they are facing a PDD and don't feel the need to reposition at all?


How exactly do you get away from stimmed marauders?
inferenc
Profile Joined March 2009
Lithuania1 Post
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1166
MPV U suck allin boy , Jinro better terran

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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1167
On January 17 2011 19:40 Deadlyfish wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:38 Scoop wrote:
On January 17 2011 19:36 Deadlyfish wrote:
He doesnt need to go all-in : /

Come on MVP, dont do all-in next game


True, he would've won either way. Nothing Protoss can do to stop that.



Well the protoss sort of reached a point-of-no-return being so greedy.

So many builds look unstopable only because of what the opponent is doing.

Taking your natural in a game that is ten minutes long is not 'so greedy' what the hell man.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 17 2011 10:43 GMT
#1168
On January 17 2011 19:40 n0ise wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:37 sekritzzz wrote:
On January 17 2011 19:36 n0ise wrote:
why is he not FF-ing at the small choke oOooOoooooooooooooooooooooooo

god

weird style to defend that

did u not watch the game?


?! Unless you're referring to the fact that he was completely out of position with basically his whole army and saw the push coming when it was literally outside it's expansion (but still, ff the damn choke) I have no idea what you're trying to communicate

Im quite sure the sentries were out of energy. Had he had one more he coulda FF-walled the choke perfectly.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1169
On January 17 2011 19:41 sqrt wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:39 MrProb wrote:
it is sad to see player like choya advanced instead of someone like MC


Choya got knocked out 3-0 by NesTea, currently you are watching Tester vs IMMvP.


I know i just registered few minutes ago
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1170
STAY ON TOPIC or face the hammer ROOARRRR
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osten
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden316 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1171
I'm not entirely sure but it seemed as if sokiso left his expansion unguarded when the helions were dropped. He started with two in his base and two defending the secret path then there were suddenly four in his base, I think mvp could have snuck in there and barbecued stuff. Not to bash on tester he is awesome but man he must be really scared or nervous about mvp.
wachnlurn
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)50 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1172
why is FE after 1 gate not cheese, i dont see how its any different than an all in. hes essentially saying im all in that i can hold this expansion and be ahead economically. it could be the same on 2 base. one tries to take a third and the other pushes. after all, this game is about getting a better economy than your opponent while still being able to defend it. if you cant defend it and just hope the opponent doesnt attack, you're the one that is wrong.
"failure should be an experience, not a lifestyle"
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1173
On January 17 2011 19:41 Gudeldar wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:36 MrCon wrote:
When MVP use allin build, it's not your average bitbybit stupid allin, it's a fucking scary dangerous allin. Sick, I can't beleive he could roll over Tester 3-0.


Thats bullshit, Rain could easily pull off builds like what mvp is doing. That isn't to say that Tester couldn't have won that though, I guess he should probably just 4 gate mvp every game from now on since mvp doesn't seem to like to do anything except all-ins against Protoss.

not a good choice really as 4gate shouldn't be a problem to hold for mvp
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1174
When MVP use allin build, it's not your average bitbybit stupid allin, it's a fucking scary dangerous allin.


This is about it. While it's still much more interesting to see a solid macro game, at least MVP's all ins are clever and well executed. The blue flame helleons were designed to a) kill probes, b) reduce the number of centries, c) force stalkers (which can be stopped by the PDD) instead of zealots. Nevermind the fact that MVP wasn't committed to the all in from the start. He had plenty of opportunities to change his plans if something went wrong.

This isn't a zealot/sentry 4 gate or a 2 rax+SCVs. There is some finesse to this build. I still want to see a macro game, but lets be sure not to lump MVP in with BitByBit.
Razyel
Profile Joined May 2010
295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 10:45:26
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1175
Tester is like let's have a macro game an makes and expansion really fast MVP is like no i want you die now and brings his scv, this is so lame from MVP.... i liked Bytbybyt more.
Tester Iron NonY WhiteRa Huk Genius
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1176
On January 17 2011 19:42 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 19:41 palookieblue wrote:
On January 17 2011 19:39 dunc wrote:
On January 17 2011 19:36 MrCon wrote:
When MVP use allin build, it's not your average bitbybit stupid allin, it's a fucking scary dangerous allin. Sick, I can't beleive he could roll over Tester 3-0.


It's pathetic either way.

You've got some lofty standards there. Why play catch-up and expand yourself when you've got sick execution, unit mix and control?

Not everyone likes 60 minute games.

And not everyone likes 10 minutes games. We're not asking for an hour long games just something that we can sink our teeth into. I mean that is what we're here for right? To spectate some awesome games?

Blame Tester for not holding off the most common 1 base push against Protoss. It was pretty much the exact same as the first game, minus the added hellions. Why should MVP change his style when it's obvious Tester doesn't have an answer for it?

If you can't hold the FE, then don't FE.
oyoyo
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1177
On January 17 2011 19:43 Hyperionnn wrote:
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On January 17 2011 19:42 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, I posted a question on the Gomtv forums. Grack Black420

Honestly, I am not getting any extra sleep tonight, assuming this does make it to game 4 or 5. Even if it doesn't I don't know if i could sleep through the dissapointment.


i dont think that this is a question


Thats not my question T_T
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 10:47:20
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1178
I actually wanted macro games but i want so much mvp to win so this time someone that deserves (nada, jinro or mvp) can win ....
and seeing those votes I am the only one who likes cool all-ins never ever seen before...
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
January 17 2011 10:44 GMT
#1179
You know how for a while a lot of top players were advocating that Protoss can fast expand against Terran and hold off almost anything? Well these all-ins are just Terran going "lol, no you can't." Things may be looking grim for the fast expand in PvT.
Armsved
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark642 Posts
January 17 2011 10:45 GMT
#1180
When I do these type of all ins I usually lose to FFs. Cut army in half... Problem was that the helions had forced him out of sentri/zealot combo.
YOOO
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