EPT[GSL] Code S Ro8: Day 1 - Page 60
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norlock
Netherlands918 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:43 izgodlee wrote: FE vs SCV all-in? - Testers expansion already payed for itself, and actually provided an ADVANTAGE stalkers vs PDD? - He has so many stalkers that it was nullified in like 2 volleys. Not an impressive build at all. Yeah this, what are people talking about when they complain about Tester FEing? The FE had been up for such a long time, it had already paid off for it self... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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adrift
192 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:43 branflakes14 wrote: Hellions do bonus damage to Sentries, Zealots and Probes, SCVs soak up all of the damage because units default to attacking them as soon as they start repairing the Hellions, the Marauders clean up the Stalkers that remain, and the Marines mop up the Immortals. Just saying. Don't forget the banshee that you need to get phoenixes for. He tried to bait the PDD with his stalkers but when the marauders stimmed after him he had to back off. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:45 norlock wrote: Can any protoss explain me why to go for Stalker heavy? Vs marauder + pdd, isn't it better to go zealot + sentry + immortal? I am not sure about this but i think it is much better. He made the stalkers to counter the hellions. | ||
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Razyel
295 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:44 palookieblue wrote: Blame Tester for not holding off the most common 1 base push against Protoss. It was pretty much the exact same as the first game, minus the added hellions. Why should MVP change his style when it's obvious Tester doesn't have an answer for it? If you can't hold the FE, then don't FE. How would you hold that ? | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:44 noD wrote: So Nestea and MC didn't deserve to win is what your saying?I actually wanted macro games but i want so much mvp to win so this time someone that deserves (nada, jinro or mvp) can win .... | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:45 norlock wrote: Can any protoss explain me why to go for Stalker heavy? Vs marauder + pdd, isn't it better to go zealot + sentry + immortal? I am not sure about this but i think it is much better. Blue Flame hellions will one shot a line of Zealot/Sentry | ||
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:42 resilve wrote: Tester was really a bit too greedy there. If a terran 1 bases and sends scv's you either got to: a) Send all your expo probes to match him. b) Sac your expo, save your workers and fight at the highground choke. I would trade a nexus without probes, and half my army to clear up his allin for sure. However, PDD might make it difficult, you could still sentry him out indeffinately when he only has 1 medivac and no tanks. Yeh send your probes to fight stim marines/marauders and blue flame hellions Not so great Idea Tester is pretty much the opposite of MC, Mvp must also know that he can't allow tester to macro up since that is his style vs terran | ||
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Elwar
953 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:45 norlock wrote: Can any protoss explain me why to go for Stalker heavy? Vs marauder + pdd, isn't it better to go zealot + sentry + immortal? I am not sure about this but i think it is much better. Because you need a lot of stalkers to kill the banshees. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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FrostedMiniWeet
United States636 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:44 noD wrote: I actually wanted macro games but i want so much mvp to win so this time someone that deserves (nada, jinro or mvp) can win .... So Fruitdealer, Nestea and MC didnt deserved to win? Yea right.... | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:41 iEchoic wrote: He didn't in the last series, but if you remember on Shakuras vs Jinro in the series he 4-0ed him he went 3gate + void and just tried to bust up the front off 1 base. If that fails it's basically an insta-gg situation. Ah yes, forgot that game - this was an all-in indeed. Was merely thinking about his strong 3 gate play, which always incorporated an expansion. But yes, concerning this you are absolutely right, 3 gate voidray is designed to punish 2 rax FE, if it doesn't work then it's gg as well. Yesterday Socke held a stim/raven all-in with 6 gates against Demuslim...I feel Tester techs way too heavily, he needs to scout better to determine what MVP techs to. Now you can scout for cloak-research (sparkling tech-lab), I feel like his early robo + observer/immortal really lowers his unit-count. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:41 butchji wrote: In BroodWar people weren't just standing in the DarkSwarm. Now in StarCraft2 people just don't seem to care they are facing a PDD and don't feel the need to reposition at all? I didn't play BW much but IIRC hydralisks didn't have concussive shells in BW. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:45 norlock wrote: Can any protoss explain me why to go for Stalker heavy? Vs marauder + pdd, isn't it better to go zealot + sentry + immortal? I am not sure about this but i think it is much better. Because the first tech he saw was hellions. Zealots do not work against blue hellions. It's also expected that banshees are following up, and he wasn't going to have phoenixes or VR out in time. | ||
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Huckleuro
United Kingdom294 Posts
2 gate robo or 3 gate+ robo then react to scouting either a terran FE or a terran 1 base all in. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:43 LittLeD wrote: Im quite sure the sentries were out of energy. Had he had one more he coulda FF-walled the choke perfectly. I'm referring to the fact that he decided to use 3-4 FFs in a wide space instead of using two to perfectly split the army at the small choke (one of the two chokes at the entrance to the expo) | ||
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Seagull_
75 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 17 2011 19:46 Moonwrath wrote: Is it possible to have MVP vs NesTea final? That would be crazy IM vs IM impossible. they have to face each other in Ro4. | ||
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