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habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3821
echo, thanks for fighting the good fight. Its so so frustrating to read these comments without correcting
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3822
This criticism is just getting absurd now. Do you honestly believe a pro-gamer in the finals of the GSL is randomly making decisions on the spot?

He's certainly tested the most obvious strategies you guys have been suggesting and I'm sure he found that they didn't work out. If simply not getting gas would have won the game, do you really think he wouldn't have found that in testing?

Calling a pro player a noob just makes you look like a fool.
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3823
On December 18 2010 20:03 ArtOfRandom wrote:
god im sick of people who watch the game more than they play it, its acutally an extremely strong proxy on steppes of war because the zealots dont care about early marines. they can just target scvs and delay/stop mining while gaining the advantage. almost all of you non-players talking down about rain would have lost to it as well




^^^^^^^^^^^^

QFT
gl hf gg
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:17:03
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3824
On December 18 2010 20:12 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:07 iEchoic wrote:
Okay, here's the actual best counter to this strat:

1) As soon as it's scouted, build your rax behind your mineral line.
2) Build bunker in the direct center of your mineral line.
3) Bunker now covers all your scvs, your rax, and your CC.

Don't listen to noobs saying to attack the pylon/gates with your workers, tasteless and artosis know what they're talking about.


What you suggest might work, but it's still very difficult when Protoss is producing Zealots at the same rate that you are producing marines, I don't know if you're actually playing the game or just watch a lot and blindly accept everything that Tasteless and Artosis say as the undeniable truth.

I for one have faced proxy gate cheese on SoW multiple times in ladder, though maybe not this particular one that MC was doing, and each and everytime I defended it comfortably by sending 3-4 SCVs to kill of the pylon. Believe me or not, it does work.


This works when the pylon is placed in the top of the plateau, because when placed in low ground, by the time SCVs manage to kill it, toss will have a new pylon ready at the top, away from SCVs, with gateway ready to churn zealots.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3825
Yea, if the game ends. I dont know what to do for my saturday night.. Please win Rain!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
December 18 2010 11:16 GMT
#3826
On December 18 2010 20:14 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:13 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:12 Ninja4ever. wrote:
That's so sad. I would have never ever wanted to hurt myself reading TL's comments like 6 months ago, even though sometimes comments on live reports were so bad.
But today, with all those non-players pros that think they figured the game out who are really getting on my nerves, I'll probably have to stop reading those kind of threads just in order to preserve my sanity.


I know this is off-topic.. but what the fuck is your icon?! :O

From memory he has the optical flare


its an optic flare,I think it was the most creative TSL2 ladder replay competition or something like that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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SC2Real
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany184 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3827
On December 18 2010 20:12 war_machine42 wrote:
What I'm entertained by is the cries to pull SCVs. The commentary just explained why this isn't possible, and the numbers back it up. If SCVs are pulled, Terran loses economy, and Protoss is already good for macro without Terran having to deal with the cheese. And at this level, Protoss isn't just whelping the cheese if he cancels the gate/looses the cheese at that point because it is a net gain for toss and Terran will MOST LIKELY eventually lose.


you just kill the pylon with 3-4 scv's.. thats it. AFTER it has finished.

you won't be behind in econ because P sacks a lot econ to get up this early gate.

also if he cancels the gateway, just build a friggin techlab an go marauder with slow or reaper..

P can't get stalkers for a long time as the gate in his main will just have been started..

hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3828
I'm going to call it. MC is going to canon rush and take the win.
I have a dream, that some day I wouldn't see any imba comments in GSL threads.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3829
On December 18 2010 20:12 Ninja4ever. wrote:
That's so sad. I would have never ever wanted to hurt myself reading TL's comments like 6 months ago, even though sometimes comments on live reports were so bad.
But today, with all those non-players pros that think they figured the game out who are really getting on my nerves, I'll probably have to stop reading those kind of threads just in order to preserve my sanity.

LR thread were always painful to read, in sc2 particulary
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3830
On December 18 2010 20:16 Banginglife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:13 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:11 Banginglife wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:10 hidiliho wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:09 robin19999 wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:07 hidiliho wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:06 traca wrote:
MC wasn't all in just saying


True... I would call that a Maka Gate lol


It would be a make gate if the gate was in the mineral line



Wouldn't that be a Maynard gate

You mean manner gate lol.....


NOPE, Maynard Gate. If you don't get the reference, don't bother. Its not worth your time to look it up. But it is definitely a Maynard gate.

Yes I get why you it's Maynard because of maynarding wokera but manner makes more sense IMO.



....
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3831
On December 18 2010 20:16 Banginglife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:13 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:11 Banginglife wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:10 hidiliho wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:09 robin19999 wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:07 hidiliho wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:06 traca wrote:
MC wasn't all in just saying


True... I would call that a Maka Gate lol


It would be a make gate if the gate was in the mineral line



Wouldn't that be a Maynard gate

You mean manner gate lol.....


NOPE, Maynard Gate. If you don't get the reference, don't bother. Its not worth your time to look it up. But it is definitely a Maynard gate.

Yes I get why you it's Maynard because of maynarding wokera but manner makes more sense IMO.

It was known as the horror gate in BW - might want to check up pokju vs bisu on peaks of baekdu for reference!
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gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3832
pls mothership rush
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3833
On December 18 2010 20:14 Voltaire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:12 iEchoic wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:11 Two_DoWn wrote:
dear lord. this thread needs to die. bnet forums are better than this.


Yeah, this is dumb. Tasteless and Artosis are obviously so tired of hearing dumb people that they actually took a full minute going out of their way to explain to you that attacking buildings with scvs is not a good idea but I come to this thread and half the posts are saying he should have attacked with his SCVs. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Just because Artosis (Tasteless did not say this, Artosis did) says something doesn't mean it's true.


Of course, but in this case, they're right.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3834
On December 18 2010 20:15 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:14 Daray wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:12 Mooncat wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:07 iEchoic wrote:
Okay, here's the actual best counter to this strat:

1) As soon as it's scouted, build your rax behind your mineral line.
2) Build bunker in the direct center of your mineral line.
3) Bunker now covers all your scvs, your rax, and your CC.

Don't listen to noobs saying to attack the pylon/gates with your workers, tasteless and artosis know what they're talking about.


What you suggest might work, but it's still very difficult when Protoss is producing Zealots at the same rate that you are producing marines, I don't know if you're actually playing the game or just watch a lot and blindly accept everything that Tasteless and Artosis say as the undeniable truth.

I for one have faced proxy gate cheese on SoW multiple times in ladder, though maybe not this particular one that MC was doing, and each and everytime I defended it comfortably by sending 3-4 SCVs to kill of the pylon. Believe me or not, it does work.


He builds another pylon?


Which obviously is free and finishes instantly.


I guess you have your mind set that your way is the best (its not)
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3835
On December 18 2010 20:17 hidiliho wrote:
I'm going to call it. MC is going to canon rush and take the win.


Oh god I can only hope.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3836
On December 18 2010 20:14 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:13 LittleeD wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:03 ArtOfRandom wrote:
God im sick of people who watch the game more than they play it,

This should sum up this thread.
Thank you a billion times for this.
More playing, less fucking whining

I'm actually refreshed that people are blaming the player and not the balance of the game for once.

They blame balance only when the terran wins.
SrJoSeZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru121 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3837
On December 18 2010 20:17 hidiliho wrote:
I'm going to call it. MC is going to canon rush and take the win.

jajaja XD
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#3838
Bring the Rain! Go underdog.
Trok67
Profile Joined May 2010
France384 Posts
December 18 2010 11:18 GMT
#3839
5/10 min games, for twice as much of adds... so annoying
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
December 18 2010 11:18 GMT
#3840
On December 18 2010 20:07 ERGO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:04 Benjef wrote:
I find it funny how MC stomped Jinro so much harder but people are calling Rain complete trash even though hes holding out a lot better and even won a game... Surely that makes Jinro worse?


it will become clear as time goes on. Jinro is playing in a style that fails if you don't respond just right, but when you do finally understand the matchup you just don't die. Look at Flash for an example of that style at its peak.


You can argue about potential skill or whatever, but the results are the results and the man has a point. I'm definitely not a fan of Rain but the amount of blind hatred here is amazing; it's made even more baffling with the blind love of Jinro. His fans even talked trash about MC and cried about cheese... basically a huge bandwagon of whiners.
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