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Dimitris
Belgium25 Posts
On December 03 2010 22:25 Thezzphai wrote: would be fun to know how many liquibet-streaks mvp destroyed today  I jumped like a thousand places up because I had that one right. I also just betted HongUn over FruitDealer, if have that one... | ||
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sqrt
1210 Posts
Damn...now I'll have to get better. | ||
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GreedyBuddhist
Sweden4 Posts
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
As far as the whole tournament goes, I still think Foxer is the most skilled player overall. What people maybe don't realize is if you have such Amazing micro than it is actually advantageous to use units like marines because they are so cost effective. There really isn't anyone else in the world that can pull off such micro with marines, therefore no one uses Foxer's builds and he seems like a "one trick pony." The spread in the end of game 1 vs leenock was just hilarious ;] My predictions: Nestea is in the final again, other finalist would be winner of Foxer/MC. Rooting for Jinro tho ofc ;] | ||
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
Jinro vs MC Semis will be fun though  | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
When I failed to qualify in the last 2 seasons, I was crushed and felt empty inside. I feel like the world is mine after qualifying. Good to read it now, knowing that he already achieved his goal of getting S-class, and can even achieve more! :D | ||
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lakritzc
Sweden164 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/jNvXj.jpg) JINRO FIGHTING! | ||
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Ansalem
564 Posts
On December 03 2010 23:20 LeaD wrote: I'm not going to go back through every game he's had to point out where he made mistakes or lost with other units, but he demonstrated today he doesn't like switching his style up or only does it to small degrees. Are you referring to the thor game where Nestea was completely blind sided and MK had the game won but completely mismanaged the thors and allowed Nestea to get back into the game? Then went back to his "bread and butter" and won because Nestea made a few mistakes himself after crawling his way back. I don't know which steppes game you are talking about or scrap station. I am guessing the banshees were just for a quick harass and switching back into his normal style, and the tank push, well done. You mean the well-known strategy that Kyrix demonstrated the entire GSL season 2 before their match? The one Artosis suggested a counter for within the first few matches Kyrix had? You`re telling me MK couldn't figure that out himself being on a team full of players, with coaches and seeing it himself in a few matches? Wait, so MK did use seige tanks, but failed at using them properly against Kyrix style, which should be completely countered by the tanks. He still continually failed to fortify his walls properly and still couldn't manage to beat Kyrix when they met in the GOM all-star final knowing the Kyrix play style over an even longer period of time. Go back a page and you can read why I think he countered him perfectly. If you`re going to suggest adding a few marauders to his mix completely changes MK play style, I'm not even going to respond. Anyways, I have to go finish my lab report, we'll see how well his "different" play styles work next week when the players he's up against can take advantage of how they know exactly what he's going to do. He did mess up when trying for the kill with the thors, but he got NesTea way behind with the initial drop anyways, so it was still effective. I'm pretty sure he used more thors in the second part of the game anyway. The banshee game he killed the queens and then the spire before it got up and resulted in gg before he would need to tech switch. Kyrix also only had one terran opponent before MK in GSL2. He used the sieges effectively against Kyrix on Shakuras in GSL2 to defend his natural, but then switched to marines for their map mobility. I didn't watch the all-star, so I can't comment on that. You seem to be very angry (I never said adding marauders made the style completely different and I don't think threatening to stop replying is a very good debate tactic) and either don't have knowledge of or dismiss games where he did use a different build. Lots of players have builds they are good at and use primarily. Obviously he is having success with using mostly bio. Pure marine/medivac made him stand out more from other terrans, but it's not like MMM was particularly unusual, even against zerg. He also became less likely to commit to early/scv supported marine pressure early on in GSL3 like he did in GSL2. I feel that is a fairly significant adjustment in play style. Your closing paragraph confuses me too since he plays mostly bio after placing 2nd in GSL2 and the all-stars, so wouldn't people already have taken advantage of knowing what he's going to do if it were that easy? I missed your other post before about having more speedlings, which is interesting. However, MK was pretty behind that game because of the expansion loss, so I'm not sure it is super telling about how effective it would be. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
JINRO FIGHTING | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On December 03 2010 23:20 LeaD wrote: I'm not going to go back through every game he's had to point out where he made mistakes or lost with other units, but he demonstrated today he doesn't like switching his style up or only does it to small degrees. Are you referring to the thor game where Nestea was completely blind sided and MK had the game won but completely mismanaged the thors and allowed Nestea to get back into the game? Then went back to his "bread and butter" and won because Nestea made a few mistakes himself after crawling his way back. I don't know which steppes game you are talking about or scrap station. I am guessing the banshees were just for a quick harass and switching back into his normal style, and the tank push, well done. You mean the well-known strategy that Kyrix demonstrated the entire GSL season 2 before their match? The one Artosis suggested a counter for within the first few matches Kyrix had? You`re telling me MK couldn't figure that out himself being on a team full of players, with coaches and seeing it himself in a few matches? Wait, so MK did use seige tanks, but failed at using them properly against Kyrix style, which should be completely countered by the tanks. He still continually failed to fortify his walls properly and still couldn't manage to beat Kyrix when they met in the GOM all-star final knowing the Kyrix play style over an even longer period of time. Go back a page and you can read why I think he countered him perfectly. If you`re going to suggest adding a few marauders to his mix completely changes MK play style, I'm not even going to respond. Anyways, I have to go finish my lab report, we'll see how well his "different" play styles work next week when the players he's up against can take advantage of how they know exactly what he's going to do. The banshee game was won with mass banshees, not a transition into marines. And this post illustrates exactly what I was trying to say. While on the surface it may look like "he always makes lots of marines", in reality he does switch up his builds and unit compositions from game to game (adding in marauders, or tanks, timing on expansion, etc), they are not huge changes but the timings are very different and it makes a huge difference to play against. He has been doing "the same thing" (as it looks on the surface) since GSL2 yet he is still showing consistent good results, and he's probably one of the, if not the, top terran player at the moment, so dissing on him is just random hating at this point. | ||
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MiNDtriX
Sweden146 Posts
choya = BigNameHunter | ||
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fatalities
United States91 Posts
4/4 Liquibet for both today and yesterday. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On December 03 2010 23:39 lakritzc wrote: JINRO FIGHTING!rofl nice. great job jinro! i hope we get to see jinro take out mvp! edit: LOL mvp lost. well take out that protoss! | ||
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GimbleB
Scotland178 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tmzNf.jpg) Some awesome games today, got my picture taken with MC and Jinro (he even knew my name). Also won another Razer Abyssus from the sign contest at the end. :D | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
And MVP .. you threw away game 2 on Blistering Sands to the wackiest Protoss I have ever seen. I mean with your ladder status and all the hype .. I expected at least a 2-1 even if you did lose. I guess nerves played a role here or maybe the matchup. You're probably just stronger at TvZ. Congrats to both Jinro and MC!! That 3rd game against July was pretty tense and Jinro had me worried when Polt elevatored in game 1 and shut down some Banshees in game 2. Apart from that, awesome awesome play from both and good luck in the semi-finals .. too bad you could face each other in the semis if all goes well. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On December 04 2010 00:00 dabom88 wrote: ChoyafOu could very well be the Dark Horse of this tournament. No one thinks he'll win but he could end up winning the whole thing. It would be so awesome if a protoss could win it. But most of all I want Jinro to win it ofcourse. Just not another zerg. MarineKing deserves it too. This is probably the best ro8 we've had btw: 2 TvP, 1 TvZ, 1 PvZ. Ro8 is played on monday? | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Fedex
United States28 Posts
She is a cruel mistress.. | ||
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