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Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
November 13 2010 22:51 GMT
#61
lol, whats going on? :D
vlf
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal170 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 22:52:18
November 13 2010 22:51 GMT
#62
edit: derp, no it wasn't.
çpç
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 13 2010 22:51 GMT
#63
It seems to me like Tyler always sticks to aggression when his first push fails. Is that usually a good idea? It never seems to work out for him.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 13 2010 22:52 GMT
#64
On November 14 2010 07:49 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 07:43 Senx wrote:
I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.

Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.

I'm still your #1 fan nony!

This part of your post seems contradictory. Wouldn't someone with better mechanics want to pick a map that's unforgiving on mechanics?


Well his great mechanics don't really kick in when the entire game is played out on 1 base.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 13 2010 22:52 GMT
#65
Chill & Wheat getting trolled hard by Hotbid.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 13 2010 22:53 GMT
#66
On November 14 2010 07:52 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 07:49 Jyvblamo wrote:
On November 14 2010 07:43 Senx wrote:
I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.

Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.

I'm still your #1 fan nony!

This part of your post seems contradictory. Wouldn't someone with better mechanics want to pick a map that's unforgiving on mechanics?


Well his great mechanics don't really kick in when the entire game is played out on 1 base.

It's PvP so it doesn't really matter.
Obstbaum
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland224 Posts
November 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#67
On November 14 2010 07:52 Jyvblamo wrote:
Chill & Wheat getting trolled hard by Hotbid.


^^ and wheat really wanted to cast it atfirst
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 13 2010 22:58 GMT
#68
On November 14 2010 07:46 lac29 wrote:
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On November 14 2010 07:43 zyglrox wrote:
On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds.



yea, beating idra 4-1 is nothing.


Sorry, a bunch of ppl with lower SC2-expectations than Tyler have beaten Idra. You wanna compare how good relative to other players Tyler was in BW compared to SC2? It's pretty obvious the difference.


Tyler was a top 3 foreigner BW player at a time when 200 people were trying to be competitive at the game. There are thousands of people trying to be competitive at SC2, and Tyler is easily top 10-20 outside of korea. Relatively speaking, he's doing at least as well in SC2. Honestly though, everyone's play outside of GSL top 8 finishers looks really rough at this point, and no one is a huge favorite over anyone else.

Funny that I'm defending him though. I don't like his style of play and he has too many fanboys imo, but he's still a good player.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
November 13 2010 22:58 GMT
#69
DJWheat moaning turns me on.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 23:01:55
November 13 2010 22:58 GMT
#70
On November 14 2010 07:49 Ludwigvan wrote:
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On November 14 2010 07:49 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series...

chill said that they get fake replays, so it could be just 2 games

Yeah do we have to go over this every TL Open? The casters are getting replays as they're being played, so the number of replays you see is no indication of how the games turned out.

I mean damn...sometimes I feel like people try hard to feel spoiled, just so they can complain about it. It always slays me when someone gets really pissed about seeing a spoiler on TL, especially for a huge event like GSL Finals or something. Like, what's the thought process there?

"Oh wow I haven't watched GSL Finals yet, everyone in the StarCraft world must be buzzing about it but I really really don't want to find out the results...OK let me just open up the biggest SC news site in the world and start browsing around...oh WTF people are talking about the GSL Finals results here? I'M SHOCKED RAGE RAGE"

It's all so silly; there might have been a place for careful guarding of match results when live streams weren't so accessible, but now I really feel there's no excuse for checking TL when you haven't watched the matches live. If I could change the community overnight I'd make spoilers acceptable everywhere except in thread titles and threads like the Small VOD Thread.
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
November 13 2010 23:01 GMT
#71
On November 14 2010 07:58 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 07:49 Ludwigvan wrote:
On November 14 2010 07:49 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series...

chill said that they get fake replays, so it could be just 2 games

Yeah do we have to go over this every TL Open? The casters are getting replays as they're being played, so the number of replays you see is no indication of how the games turned out.

I mean damn...sometimes I feel like people try hard to feel spoiled, just so they can complain about it. It always slays me when someone gets really pissed about seeing a spoiler on TL, especially for a huge event like GSL Finals or something. Like, what's the thought process there?

"Oh wow I haven't watched GSL Finals yet, everyone in the StarCraft world must be buzzing about it but I really really don't want to find out the results...OK let me just open up the biggest SC news site in the world and start browsing around...oh WTF people are talking about the GSL Finals results here? I'M SHOCKED RAGE RAGE"


HEY HEY HEY. We need things to rage about. You can't expect us to be happy can you? God...
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 23:08:38
November 13 2010 23:08 GMT
#72
It's not just TL, the internet has become so obsessed with spoilers that it's suddenly expected that nobody talks about anything until the rest of the community has seen / read / played through the entire content at their leisure or a month expires.

One of the internet's worst ideas ever tbh.
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
November 13 2010 23:08 GMT
#73
AhhBoxxah fighting!!!
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
November 13 2010 23:12 GMT
#74
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 23:16:29
November 13 2010 23:14 GMT
#75
On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.


I don't agree.. he just didn't handle the terran pressure well. He had enough units to stop it if he fought with the right positioning.


ahhhboxah's apm is ridiculous
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
November 13 2010 23:16 GMT
#76
EE-Han-Timing Chill<3 As a Zerg player is it wrong for me to be constantly wanting terrans and protoss to win?
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 23:19:24
November 13 2010 23:17 GMT
#77
On November 14 2010 08:14 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.


I don't agree... it just didn't handle the terran pressure well.


The gold is just too difficult to defend vs well positioned siege tanks. Yeah he certainly didn't handle it optimally but he had the advantage until then, instead he put it into jeopardy when he took an unnecessary risk by taking the gold when he could've taken the 3rd in the back instead and it would've been a much safer choice that still would preserve or increase his lead. He instead tried to go for the big jump and crashed down.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
November 13 2010 23:17 GMT
#78
On November 14 2010 08:14 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.


I don't agree.. he just didn't handle the terran pressure well. He had enough units to stop it if he fought with the right positioning.


If he wanted to take a quick and sneaky third why did he take a base that can be seen by a watch tower that is on the terran player's side of the map.

There is nothing wrong with taking a risk and expanding when you can't justify it because every once in a while it can pay for itself but at least take the third in a location that is easier to defend OR in one that is harder to find.

The gold is both difficult to defend AND easy to find. The worst location for a quick third you could choose.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 23:19:37
November 13 2010 23:18 GMT
#79
No results in the OP or bracket? It seems like Nony just lost but that's all I can figure out.

edit: CHILL CASTING must watch
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
November 13 2010 23:20 GMT
#80
chill sounding orgasmic
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