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On November 04 2010 19:54 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:53 JinDesu wrote:On November 04 2010 19:52 Qikz wrote: Why do Koreans not build Engi Bays in TvT? Banshees always come. Every time. Foxer made an engineering bay last game. Including a few turrets too I believe. Ah apologies, I only just woke up. :p I just mean when he's low on scan the other guy, with an engi bay and a turret you can carry on muling.
It depends more on how the player feels. Foxer has marines and scan, so he must have felt that he could have taken the banshees. It's probably more a pride thing.
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FoxeR is getting increasingly more cocky. The drop was kind of a pointed sign in game 2. But, his playstyle in Game 3 was definitely another sign of cockiness. Maybe that loss will shoot him back down to Earth.
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On November 04 2010 19:53 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:51 Fa1nT wrote:On November 04 2010 19:51 LittleeD wrote: ITR has learned from his mistakes. Looking good so far, 15 kills on the banshees He learned NOTHING. He went banshee vs mass marine AGAIN. He would of did NO damage if FoxeR stayed home with those marines, he got lucky. It seems kinda weird how these players don't adapt well mid-series. Kyrix never made a single Infestor even though it would have easily won him the series
Kyrix vs. Foxer was so close in unit numbers that if he had made infestors, the constant pressure might have overwhelmed him too.
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On November 04 2010 19:53 netherDrake wrote: If Foxer got gas and stim he would've won. If I had 800 effective APM and played BW since day 1 I could be the next Bonjwa.
(cwutididthere?)
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On November 04 2010 19:55 LittleeD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:53 Logros wrote: Too much bad luck with the banhees, undeserved win imo. Please explain in which way its was bad luck? Its not like there's chance involved How many times banshees got away with 2 hps ?
Do not tell me it was planned.
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Could ITR benefit from mass hellions? Why not vs boxer? Would it be too hard to get a good amount due to the pressure? seems if you have enough time for a banshee you could get several hellions.
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On November 04 2010 19:55 _vladimir_ wrote:Lol.....just lol, i started writing longish answer, but no point. YEah, I almost did too, then knew better.
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On November 04 2010 19:53 Logros wrote: Too much bad luck with the banhees, undeserved win imo.
There's no such thing as an undeserved win, and even if there were, this certainly wouldn't qualify. HopeTorture did exactly what he needed to with the banshees, maximizing damage without losing them. No idea how you call that undeserved.
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terran players are going to hate foxer when he gets marines nerfed 
i see in the future "marines can no longer instantly move after attacking"
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On November 04 2010 19:53 ArghUScaredMe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:52 Qikz wrote: Why do Koreans not build Engi Bays in TvT? Banshees always come. Every time. Offense wins defense. Why spend 225 minerals on Ebay + turret when you can make 4.5 marines that can defend or move out. because scans cost mules.
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On November 04 2010 19:55 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:54 FreeRice wrote: With all the comments here, you'd think these two players are some bronze level scrubs. Because these armchair sc2 pros see everything and therefore ITR and Foxer should too.
Some people are just never happy.
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On November 04 2010 19:55 LittleeD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:53 Logros wrote: Too much bad luck with the banhees, undeserved win imo. Please explain in which way its was bad luck? Its not like there's chance involved
ITR just tilted because he didn't want to get 4-0ed.
He cheesed and got lucky with 2 hp banshees = undeserved win.
He'll get stomped these next 2 games and then go storm off and cry.
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On November 04 2010 19:56 evilsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:53 Lann555 wrote:On November 04 2010 19:51 Fa1nT wrote:On November 04 2010 19:51 LittleeD wrote: ITR has learned from his mistakes. Looking good so far, 15 kills on the banshees He learned NOTHING. He went banshee vs mass marine AGAIN. He would of did NO damage if FoxeR stayed home with those marines, he got lucky. It seems kinda weird how these players don't adapt well mid-series. Kyrix never made a single Infestor even though it would have easily won him the series Kyrix vs. Foxer was so close in unit numbers that if he had made infestors, the constant pressure might have overwhelmed him too.
in his post match interview he said that when people went infestors against him they lost.
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On November 04 2010 19:44 abrasion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:43 Macks wrote: Seriously, stop with the daddy pants references please Seriously people, stop complaining about the casters every fucking night - go watch the Korean stream or some Husky if you don't like these two.
Thank you for saying this.
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On November 04 2010 19:56 Goliathsorrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:55 LittleeD wrote:On November 04 2010 19:53 Logros wrote: Too much bad luck with the banhees, undeserved win imo. Please explain in which way its was bad luck? Its not like there's chance involved How many times banshees got away with 2 hps ? Do not tell me it was planned. Well, the plan certainly wasn't to let them just die to the marines.
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On November 04 2010 19:56 evilsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 19:53 Lann555 wrote:On November 04 2010 19:51 Fa1nT wrote:On November 04 2010 19:51 LittleeD wrote: ITR has learned from his mistakes. Looking good so far, 15 kills on the banshees He learned NOTHING. He went banshee vs mass marine AGAIN. He would of did NO damage if FoxeR stayed home with those marines, he got lucky. It seems kinda weird how these players don't adapt well mid-series. Kyrix never made a single Infestor even though it would have easily won him the series Kyrix vs. Foxer was so close in unit numbers that if he had made infestors, the constant pressure might have overwhelmed him too.
Infestors work well if marines are clustered - the marine splitting for banelings also makes infestors a lot less useful.
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On November 04 2010 19:56 Lush wrote: mass hellions? why not vs boxer? hellions' splash works best against melee bio that clump up towards hellion's 6 range (zerglings & zealots).
hellions suck against similar ranged bio. That's why it's not used against rines or hydras.
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On November 04 2010 19:57 Womwomwom wrote: Woops
lol <3
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On November 04 2010 19:56 Lush wrote: Could ITR benefit from mass hellions? Why not vs boxer? Would it be too hard to get a good amount due to the pressure? seems if you have enough time for a banshee you could get several hellions.
I would not mind to see some blue flames on my screen. Foxer getting cocky, making me upset. DAMNIT LB... ;(
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