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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 11:17:41
September 27 2010 11:17 GMT
#801
This is a live reporting thread not meant for balance discussion. We don't want to hear your opinion on why Protoss is underpowered in these topics. Get the fuck out with that shit. Any further reference to balance is going to result in a ban.
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rozina
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovenia72 Posts
September 27 2010 11:17 GMT
#802
On September 27 2010 20:14 Ghad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:12 bjwithbraces wrote:
Let's not talk about imbalance :trollface:



LOL!

Ensnare did a good interview though, actually interacting a bit with artosis and smiling.


I taught the same thing! Finally someone that talks to the question asker
Zergs are fun!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51705 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 11:18:59
September 27 2010 11:17 GMT
#803
On September 27 2010 20:15 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:12 diehilde wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:03 Elefanto wrote:
lol, we gonna see ALOT of tvts : /

just wait for next season, when nada, julyzerg, boxer, iloveoov and so forth will be playing in the qualifiers - they all play T. If they dont fix the bracket so a cpl non Ts have an easy road to like ro8 its probably gonna be even worse than this season


July plays T? Disgrace


his ID still says that he plays Z...It was only a rumor...he won't be switching anytime soon.

I WANT PROOF.You have to confirm such stuff.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 27 2010 11:18 GMT
#804
On September 27 2010 20:16 scottyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:16 JinDesu wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:14 Ghad wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:12 bjwithbraces wrote:
Let's not talk about imbalance :trollface:



LOL!

Ensnare did a good interview though, actually interacting a bit with artosis and smiling.


I like Ensnare in interviews, Tester too. ITR didn't even really look at artosis


Most of the interviewees don't look at Artosis.

It's a bit rude imo but nothing major.


It's more asian than rude.

These games have been terrible again.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
September 27 2010 11:18 GMT
#805
They are as introvert as norwegians lol.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
September 27 2010 11:18 GMT
#806
On September 27 2010 20:13 koshka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:12 diehilde wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:03 Elefanto wrote:
lol, we gonna see ALOT of tvts : /

just wait for next season, when nada, julyzerg, boxer, iloveoov and so forth will be playing in the qualifiers - they all play T. If they dont fix the bracket so a cpl non Ts have an easy road to like ro8 its probably gonna be even worse than this season


i thought july playing terran now is just a rumor

I would be pretty surprised if any of the former BW pros would play Z. They are professionals, they earn their living by playing. Playing Z would be plain unprofessional under the current premises.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 11:21:17
September 27 2010 11:18 GMT
#807
On September 27 2010 20:15 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:10 Dommk wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:09 JinDesu wrote:
It wasn't so much the mules - Anypro threw away 3 voidrays and his entire army in the wrong goddamn situations.



Stimmed marines take down a voidray in 3seconds, he has to take a risk when using them otherwise he can't use them at all.


I'm not faulting his using them - he didn't use them at the key moments. He lost one in the wrong position (where Ensnare scanned ahead). His second one was used well to try to hit the mules, but he pulls back way too late (mules move faster than Voidrays, ouch). His third was used when pdd is put down to hold off the stalkers. But if he had 3 Voidrays right then, it'd have been so much more powerful.

I understand that Ensnare was killing things left and right, but as with Colossi (look at that first game...), Voidrays are NOT supposed to be left to be picked off. You need them en masse.


That is so ridiculous, they are _never_ used in mass, no one has done that in GSL, they cost too much to even be able to do that. AnyPro isn't psychic, he has to take some risks, he can't see the entire map, and soon as the voidray is even a tiny bit off position and marines come it is gone, if you don't try use it as much as you can then you waste resources in which you could have used for other units.

edit:

Not that he couldn't have used them better, but you can't fault him for not wanting to use them the way he did.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 27 2010 11:19 GMT
#808
On September 27 2010 20:16 scottyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:16 JinDesu wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:14 Ghad wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:12 bjwithbraces wrote:
Let's not talk about imbalance :trollface:



LOL!

Ensnare did a good interview though, actually interacting a bit with artosis and smiling.


I like Ensnare in interviews, Tester too. ITR didn't even really look at artosis


Most of the interviewees don't look at Artosis.

It's a bit rude imo but nothing major.


Well no, I'm not saying it's BAD. What I'm saying is I appreciate that Ensnare, Maka, Tester, and a few others really interact with artosis or are more active generally in the interviews. Last thing we need is more Davits lol
Yargh
Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
September 27 2010 11:19 GMT
#809
Holy god it's bright
Writerundefeated thunderdome champion 。゚+.(o´・ω・`o)+.゚。イィ!! :+:+: @lubdrop
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 27 2010 11:20 GMT
#810
I'm wondering if Ensnare has some BW pro background with that nickname and belonging to team Old Gamers?
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 27 2010 11:20 GMT
#811
hey I can actually see whats happening now. Did something change or am I retarded?
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
September 27 2010 11:20 GMT
#812
Lol, do anyone remember the tooltip on gamma during early beta?
"setting this too high will make artists cry"
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
September 27 2010 11:20 GMT
#813
On September 27 2010 20:20 amorpheus wrote:
I'm wondering if Ensnare has some BW pro background with that nickname and belonging to team Old Gamers?


no. he was a former wc3 player (played orc i think) and was recruited by ogs in the early stages of the beta.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 11:21:16
September 27 2010 11:21 GMT
#814
On September 27 2010 20:20 amorpheus wrote:
I'm wondering if Ensnare has some BW pro background with that nickname and belonging to team Old Gamers?

I think his background is WC3 in which ensnare is also a spell.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 27 2010 11:21 GMT
#815
On September 27 2010 20:18 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:15 JinDesu wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:10 Dommk wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:09 JinDesu wrote:
It wasn't so much the mules - Anypro threw away 3 voidrays and his entire army in the wrong goddamn situations.



Stimmed marines take down a voidray in 3seconds, he has to take a risk when using them otherwise he can't use them at all.


I'm not faulting his using them - he didn't use them at the key moments. He lost one in the wrong position (where Ensnare scanned ahead). His second one was used well to try to hit the mules, but he pulls back way too late (mules move faster than Voidrays, ouch). His third was used when pdd is put down to hold off the stalkers. But if he had 3 Voidrays right then, it'd have been so much more powerful.

I understand that Ensnare was killing things left and right, but as with Colossi (look at that first game...), Voidrays are NOT supposed to be left to be picked off. You need them en masse.


That is so ridiculous, they are _never_ used in mass, no one has done that in GSL, they are cost too much to even be able to do that. AnyPro isn't psychic, he has to take some risks, he can't see the entire map, and soon as the voidray is even a tiny bit off position and marines come it is gone, if you don't try use it as much as you can then you waste resources in which you could have used for other units.


You HAVE to use them en masse if you are MAKING more of them. They don't work in singular when you are investing so much into them that your army is not buffed. I'm not saying "hold them back while the Terran is killing you". I'm saying, if you are going to lose them, the loss is so big that it's pretty much losing you the game. You need to maintain their numbers.
Yargh
alkampfer
Profile Joined May 2010
116 Posts
September 27 2010 11:21 GMT
#816
it's so sad that terran has so many advantages... in all these GSL matches is totally under our eyes that terran has much more options than other races and many chance to win the game even if the T player made some mistakes.

A protoss cannot lose his army like the terran does in that game, or is totally f***ed... a terran can lose an army and still win.

User was temp banned for this post.
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
September 27 2010 11:21 GMT
#817
On September 27 2010 20:18 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:13 koshka wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:12 diehilde wrote:
On September 27 2010 20:03 Elefanto wrote:
lol, we gonna see ALOT of tvts : /

just wait for next season, when nada, julyzerg, boxer, iloveoov and so forth will be playing in the qualifiers - they all play T. If they dont fix the bracket so a cpl non Ts have an easy road to like ro8 its probably gonna be even worse than this season


i thought july playing terran now is just a rumor

I would be pretty surprised if any of the former BW pros would play Z. They are professionals, they earn their living by playing. Playing Z would be plain unprofessional under the current premises.


well tester and cool are old sc pros and not playing T + the vods of july playing zerg (sc2) were not that bad
OnePostLol
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 11:22:24
September 27 2010 11:22 GMT
#818
.

User was banned for this post.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 27 2010 11:22 GMT
#819
On September 27 2010 20:21 alkampfer wrote:
it's so sad that terran has so many advantages... in all these GSL matches is totally under our eyes that terran has much more options than other races and many chance to win the game even if the T player made some mistakes.

A protoss cannot lose his army like the terran does in that game, or is totally f***ed... a terran can lose an army and still win.


Stop doing this. You are going to get banned. Discuss the tactics and decisions made - not the race qualities.
Yargh
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 27 2010 11:22 GMT
#820
On September 27 2010 20:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 20:20 amorpheus wrote:
I'm wondering if Ensnare has some BW pro background with that nickname and belonging to team Old Gamers?

I think his background is WC3 in which ensnare is also a spell.

Correct me if i am wrong, but he was called "Ensnare" in warcraft 3 already. I've heard of him if i remember correctly.
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